RICH CRAFT 1
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posted February 17, 2012 10:59 AM
I would be careful about extending the RPMs too much, kawi is not known for adding extra val spring pressure, extra spring pressure is horsepower loss and Kawi isn't giving anything away. the average gearshift drop is about 1500 RPMs. looking at that Dino chart I don't see anything big to be picked up from 11,000 to 9500. Losing a couple horsepower at 9500 is not worth the risk of dropping a val. If you miss a gear with the 11,500 RPM limiter that could be scary to.
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Shane661
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posted February 17, 2012 11:11 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 17 Feb 2012 19:15
You are looking at around 3000 rpm drop on the 1-2 shift, and 2200 rpm on the 2-3 shift (where your ET is).
I am not saying it will last forever, but we kissed the limiter a lot on the Gen 1 @ +400 rpm, without issue (dyno and track). On my Gen 2 I have only had it on there a few times at the +500 increase. Of course, to be extra safe you could shim the stock springs a tiny bit. 
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SteddyTeddy
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posted February 17, 2012 11:13 AM
I don't think I'd be too worried about dropping a valve at 11500.
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posted February 17, 2012 12:32 PM
8.49 is right around the corner. good job Smokin...
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kawa74
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posted February 17, 2012 02:12 PM
Peak RPM = ( VE factor / 1 cyl ) x cfm @ 28"
.. VE factors...
Stock 1196,... Street & strip 1256,.... Race 1316
CFM = HP / .43 = cfm @ 10" x 1.67 = cfm @ 28"
Stock = VE / 21.98" = 54.413 x CFM @ 28"== Peak rpm
209 hp / .43 = 121.51 cfm x 1.67 = 202.92 cfm @ 28" = ...11,041 rpm
213 hp / .43= 123.84 cfm x 1.67 = 206.81 cfm @ 28" = .....11,250
216 hp / .43 = 125.58 cfm x 1.67 = 209.72 cfm @ 28" =... 11,400
219 hp / .43 = 127.33 cfm x 1.67 = 212.63 cfm @ 28" =.... 11,623
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posted February 17, 2012 02:42 PM
Good Job !
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pazx14rider
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posted February 17, 2012 03:43 PM
Nice job Lee looks like its workin!
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davej
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posted February 18, 2012 03:50 PM
You must have a warp factor button. Did the men in black approve this? That is double fugging fast!
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kawasakijockey
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posted February 18, 2012 04:13 PM
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8.49 is right around the corner. good job Smokin...
wee
He will probably be deeper than that. None of the 14 haters will be impressed at all until the mid 8.40's are seen. The ones in Houston dont think its possible. Oh hurry come that day!
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1badzx12r
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posted February 18, 2012 06:45 PM
this is from 1320 bikes...
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Im not a 14 lover but the bike is fast an i give ricky props on being a good rider but cut ricky in half put one half on a gen2 busa an the other half on the new 2012 14r an the 14r would get ran over hands down he said it his self in the video that the gen1 busa out ran the zx14 so what would the gen2 busa do with him riding it 8.90s all day long with the stock pipes on it
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Wheelie
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posted February 18, 2012 07:40 PM
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this is from 1320 bikes...
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Im not a 14 lover but the bike is fast an i give ricky props on being a good rider but cut ricky in half put one half on a gen2 busa an the other half on the new 2012 14r an the 14r would get ran over hands down he said it his self in the video that the gen1 busa out ran the zx14 so what would the gen2 busa do with him riding it 8.90s all day long with the stock pipes on it
I remember my first few times at the track on my 06 ZX-14, it would drive right by the Booza, they have been in total denial since 2006..
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kawasakijockey
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posted February 18, 2012 07:42 PM
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this is from 1320 bikes...
quote:
Im not a 14 lover but the bike is fast an i give ricky props on being a good rider but cut ricky in half put one half on a gen2 busa an the other half on the new 2012 14r an the 14r would get ran over hands down he said it his self in the video that the gen1 busa out ran the zx14 so what would the gen2 busa do with him riding it 8.90s all day long with the stock pipes on it
I remember my first few times at the track on my 06 ZX-14, it would drive right by the Booza, they have been in total denial since 2006..
wee
I dont understand it at all either.
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posted February 18, 2012 07:47 PM
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this is from 1320 bikes...
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Im not a 14 lover but the bike is fast an i give ricky props on being a good rider but cut ricky in half put one half on a gen2 busa an the other half on the new 2012 14r an the 14r would get ran over hands down he said it his self in the video that the gen1 busa out ran the zx14 so what would the gen2 busa do with him riding it 8.90s all day long with the stock pipes on it
I remember my first few times at the track on my 06 ZX-14, it would drive right by the Booza, they have been in total denial since 2006..
wee
I dont understand it at all either.
Gen 1 Booza will trap 114mph piped and lowered, 120 on a Gen 1 ZX-14. ask me how I know lol.
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posted February 18, 2012 07:59 PM
That guy on 1320 has rocks for brains .. Ricky clearly said the gen 2 busa ( 08 busa ) ran 9.21 and the gen 1 ( 08 zx14 ) ran 9.23 ... This guys thinks it was a gen one busa that out ran the zx14 ... We all now that never happened , maybe on Mars ..
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1badzx12r
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posted February 18, 2012 08:05 PM
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That guy on 1320 has rocks for brains .. Ricky clearly said the gen 2 busa ( 08 busa ) ran 9.21 and the gen 1 ( 08 zx14 ) ran 9.23 ... This guys thinks it was a gen one busa that out ran the zx14 ... We all now that never happened , maybe on Mars ..
what did those guys do with their busa's . i may buy them and take them over to 1320 bikes and sell them to the other busa guys ...
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SteddyTeddy
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posted March 08, 2012 06:25 AM
More runs coming tonight. So far weather is clear, very little wind and my barameter is sitting at 30.2.
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posted March 08, 2012 10:16 AM
Keep us Updated
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Rajun Cajun
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posted March 08, 2012 10:21 AM
CONGRATS SmokinZX14! I wish I could get my ecu flashed! I havent read anything here saying there is someone doing flashing for the 2006 models.
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Rajun Cajun
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posted March 08, 2012 10:27 AM
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this is from 1320 bikes...
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Im not a 14 lover but the bike is fast an i give ricky props on being a good rider but cut ricky in half put one half on a gen2 busa an the other half on the new 2012 14r an the 14r would get ran over hands down he said it his self in the video that the gen1 busa out ran the zx14 so what would the gen2 busa do with him riding it 8.90s all day long with the stock pipes on it
I dont remeber that video!!! show me?
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Viper
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posted March 08, 2012 11:03 AM
Don Guhl also does ECU flashes for the older 14s. Give him a call at 717-618-4212
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