joel787
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posted February 11, 2012 10:13 AM
afr for e85
Think ama give it a try, i have read people adding 30% for this gas, what should be my target afr on the wideband?
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fullzx12r
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posted February 11, 2012 10:16 AM
more power with the E85 ... but + 10 or 20% of Use
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RICH CRAFT 1
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posted February 11, 2012 02:42 PM
I have asked this question before to the technical Guy at wego, he told me it's the same as gas, which for me would be 12.9 AFR. It's something I would like to try but hadn't got around to yet.
Ken
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1badzx12r
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posted February 11, 2012 02:49 PM
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I have asked this question before to the technical Guy at wego, he told me it's the same as gas, which for me would be 12.9 AFR. It's something I would like to try but hadn't got around to yet.
Ken
i have to run 11.0 a/f @WOT..at 12.9 it goes bye bye pistons .. Don't know if that helps
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smokinZX14
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posted February 11, 2012 02:55 PM
Roys bike had a about 35% added to get a good A/F ... He started at 40% and it was a little fat so we trimed it down the 35% .. Not talking turbo here , this was all motor..
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08green
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posted February 11, 2012 03:06 PM
Refresh me as to how much avg HP does E85 give over pump gas?
Thanks.
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smokinZX14
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posted February 11, 2012 03:25 PM
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Refresh me as to how much avg HP does E85 give over pump gas?
Thanks.
On my dyno Roys stock ZX14 picked up 6 HP ... That was back to back testing within 30 mins time between dyno runs ..
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08green
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posted February 11, 2012 03:40 PM
Nice...and did u guys crush the reg or simply add the 35% to the enitre map..im looking to do this for my zx10...
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smokinZX14
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posted February 11, 2012 03:43 PM
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Nice...and did u guys crush the reg or simply add the 35% to the enitre map..im looking to do this for my zx10...
Thanks.
As far as i can remember Roy just added 35% to the map ... You can PM him and make sure ..
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justoyz2
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posted February 12, 2012 10:26 AM
Lee,
Is correct, e85 is about equal to U4.4, however it requires alot more fuel to get you back normal A/F. The suggested fuel increase is about what I used as well. I also have auto-tune on my bike; it adjusted it automatically after I changed my targeted a/f. I normally run my bikes around 12.8 to 1. On a dyno it may produce more hp run a bit leaner... I perfer more mph over higher dyno number.
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joseph702
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posted February 12, 2012 12:02 PM
deff takes that 35% more fuel.
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wrongway
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posted February 12, 2012 09:08 PM
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Nice...and did u guys crush the reg or simply add the 35% to the enitre map..im looking to do this for my zx10...
Thanks.
with the 430 cc injectors ( 06-07) you can max out the injectors at the very top end. If you want to run nitrous , you would have to crush the regulator. If you go past 250 hp , you will need a bigger fuel pump and injectors.
the later model 10 has 2 sets of injectors , so I think they wont be a problem. Fuel pump is the same .
Roy
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