cls
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posted February 07, 2012 09:33 AM
For street riders, the cheap, and/or the technically challenged?
I'm more interested in exhaust/mods for weight savings, sound, looks, and low-mid power. I don't want to have to mess w/the FI remapping and subsequent nuissance and economy loss (I know that'll stir up some flaming.). OTOH, I definitely want to get rid of the cats. I'd go w/the TBR slip-ons, otherwise. Anybody seen the AFR w/stock mapping and slip-ons for the 14R? If you hollowed out the cats would it make much difference in sound, AFR, and/or power? I'm looking for my perfect. Anybody know of anyone working on such a thing.
BTW, thanks much to those sharing all the great info. Good stuff. Great bike.
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dcjens
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posted February 07, 2012 10:05 AM
My 2 cents would be...you just bought the best bike made..dont hack anything just to gain or lose 1 to 3 horsepower. Get new or used slip ons and call it good. If you dont like that.. Get a full exhaust system later.
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eklipse636
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posted February 07, 2012 02:39 PM
+1 on if you decide with slip ons, get them used and save some $. Wait til you run across a deal. They are out there. People sell slip ons everyday to get full exhaust
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cls
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posted February 07, 2012 04:22 PM
Yep, I keep going back and forth between full and slip-on. I just hate to leave the cats in there...Thanks much. We'll see what pans out.
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smokinZX14
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posted February 07, 2012 04:30 PM
You know the bike has 3 cats .. One in the head pipe and the other two in the mufflers .. so even if you put a set of slipons on you still have one cat left on the bike ..
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kaw now
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posted February 07, 2012 05:58 PM
Look how fast gadson made it go with the mufflers removed I'd be tempted with the R to just put on some slip ons and call it good. Well that and a reflash once that is dialed in.
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COOTER
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posted February 07, 2012 11:44 PM
Just remember if you get a full system you will need to install a power commander, but if you get slip-ons you don’t need to get one but if you’re just ridding on the street slip-ons are more than adequate.
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cls
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posted February 08, 2012 03:10 AM
Yep, I'm clear on the above. That's the dilemma: I want all the cats out but I don't want to go w/the FI remapping business for a few reasons. Maybe LV or someone will come up w/a "torque" full system that doesn't require remapping but gets the cats gone. That'd be sweet. For me, anyway.
Thanks, again. I'm more lamenting than actually asking, I reckon. We'll see what comes available. Thanks.
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CrotchRocket
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posted February 08, 2012 03:16 AM
Get a Brock pipe, a power commander with his map loaded into it and there is no fussing with the F I...
No more cats but lots of extra HP and sound...
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cls
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posted February 08, 2012 09:03 AM
That's what I did w/my '06 14 and many other bikes. I'm getting more into the practical, high-mileage world. I hate to lose the economy and/or the low-end power w/the full exhaust and FI maps. I may see if a local place will fit me up w/a connector pipe that gets rid of the header cat and see how that does w/slip-ons. I think that would do pretty well on stock mapping and maybe be the best compromise for me. Still researching...
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Lucky14
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posted February 08, 2012 09:11 AM
 Edited By: Lucky14 on 8 Feb 2012 17:11
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You know the bike has 3 cats .. One in the head pipe and the other two in the mufflers .. so even if you put a set of slipons on you still have one cat left on the bike ..
Mine doesn't have the cat in the head pipe ..........................
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posted February 08, 2012 10:48 AM
I bought a set of slipons from 2 Bros shortly after I bought my 09 new.I mean I think it had less than 1000 mi.They sounded great.Even gota PCV and took the flies out.But after a little while I wanted more.Feel like I wasted the $578 I payed for them.Luckily I saw an add on this site for a Brocks Alienhead in perfect shape and I mean perfect for $650.I got the maps from Brock for a $25 transfer fee for life.I had it for a year and it still looks perfect.I don't ride in the rain.It's goinig to be awhile before the major pipe people come out.I had to wait 6 months before anyone had one for my 99 ZRX 1100 which was a new model.
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BobK
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posted February 08, 2012 03:29 PM
quote:
You know the bike has 3 cats .. One in the head pipe and the other two in the mufflers .. so even if you put a set of slipons on you still have one cat left on the bike ..
I hear that is not correct that the cats on the 14R are only in the mufflers. Why do you thing the 14R has them in the midpipe? Have you seen them?
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cls
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posted February 08, 2012 06:07 PM
Can anybody confirm the cats story? I hear slip-ons will not get rid of the cats so I presumed there was at least one in the header. TBR and Brocks said a slip-on would not get rid of them. Am I missing something? That'd make my life a lot easier, if slip-ons got rid of the cats.
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Wheelie
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posted February 08, 2012 06:13 PM
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Can anybody confirm the cats story? I hear slip-ons will not get rid of the cats so I presumed there was at least one in the header. TBR and Brocks said a slip-on would not get rid of them. Am I missing something? That'd make my life a lot easier, if slip-ons got rid of the cats.
I can see almost to the collector and can't see a cat, if Brock says it's there then it's probably there.
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COOTER
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posted February 08, 2012 11:45 PM
06-07 ZX-14 has 2 cats one in each can slip-ons will remove all cats.
08-11 ZX-14 has 3 cats one in each can and one in the mid pipe.
2012 ZX-14R ????? I can’t find anything about it sorry.
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cls
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posted February 09, 2012 02:48 AM
Interesting. I'm sure they're right but I sure would like someone else to personally confirm it. Simple mistake or misunderstanding? Hmm...Thanks for the input.
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BobK
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posted February 09, 2012 07:15 AM
Check out the photos on this thread.
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=65623&set_time=
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cls
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posted February 09, 2012 08:35 AM
It doesn't come up for me. What's the gist of the thread? Tell me something good and you and I will be tight.
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SpazOnaConcours
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posted February 09, 2012 11:30 AM
....we just cut up a stock 14R header: no cat to be found. The mufflers are certainly heavy enough to have a cat in each of them, however. Good grief those things are like anvils.
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kaw now
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posted February 09, 2012 01:13 PM
Did you take any pics of the cut up 14r header?
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cls
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posted February 09, 2012 02:29 PM
Not to discredit or challenge anyone (Beccause I certainly don't have the knowledge to do so.), but I'm puzzled then as to why both TBR and Brock say slip-ons won't do away w/the cats. I'm a bit lost. I may buzz them again...
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cls
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posted February 09, 2012 02:45 PM
Brocks is already closed but TBR says the cats are "welded into the header." Any explanation for the contadicting info? Anyone? Bueller?
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cls
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posted February 09, 2012 02:58 PM
Brocks is already closed but TBR says the cats are "welded into the header." Any explanation for the contadicting info? Anyone? Bueller?
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Wheelie
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posted February 09, 2012 03:01 PM
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Brocks is already closed but TBR says the cats are "welded into the header." Any explanation for the contadicting info? Anyone? Bueller?
Get a full system and you can be sure.
wee
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