posted February 06, 2012 05:14 PM
Part of a low speed roll-on is wheelie management as everyone who does it already knows. If you're coming out stretched to avoid the wheelie issue then we are going from a high enough speed where I don't have wheelies from either.
Suffice to say that what that exact speed is I do not know but it will be significantly higher than 3000 rpms, otherwise no deal.
A.
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posted February 06, 2012 05:19 PM
This is getting as bad ad getting ready for drag racing.. I thought we just wack that throttle and change gears!!
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posted February 06, 2012 05:22 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 7 Feb 2012 01:31
Rpms don't matter; gearing will determine that.
Just agree on N/A motors, a GPS mile per hour and go for it!
(You will never know whats in the other guys motor in a grudge race away)
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posted February 06, 2012 05:24 PM
Edited By: dakota9498 on 7 Feb 2012 01:26
quote:Shane, if you don't want to lock it in just say so dude.
If you're not going to run me from 3000 rpms 1st gear on the stock swingarm like I am just say so now.
Are you stretching the bike or not? Why be so evasive?
A.
You know what I find funny is, how you talk so much smack about being able to whip Shane's ass with all his money in his bikes with your clapped out 12R, but like every "grudge racer" in the world, when it comes down to it you want this or that, always asking for something...lmao.
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Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. ~Mark Twain
quote:shipteey, not sure if you know but I live in Texas, Shane is about my weight and has a zx14r with a stock motor, why not try him? He doesn't live in Texas, Just wondering if you're zx12 has ever had any motor parts replaced?
wee
So, Ali, you want to run 9/10th's or not? We can set this up with Sal..
Shane
Shane, what are the terms you are proposing? If you are saying "we" as in "you and I" why would we need Sal? Of course as with any racing both parties much agree to the terms prior to the race otherwise its a no go. I've already proved that the local 9/10ths spot is the safe at 195.6 mph....you think you and your riding will yield 200+ out there or something?
A.
It took you 9/10ths of a mile to go 195? Thats weak!
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quote:shipteey, not sure if you know but I live in Texas, Shane is about my weight and has a zx14r with a stock motor, why not try him? He doesn't live in Texas, Just wondering if you're zx12 has ever had any motor parts replaced?
wee
So, Ali, you want to run 9/10th's or not? We can set this up with Sal..
Shane
Shane, what are the terms you are proposing? If you are saying "we" as in "you and I" why would we need Sal? Of course as with any racing both parties much agree to the terms prior to the race otherwise its a no go. I've already proved that the local 9/10ths spot is the safe at 195.6 mph....you think you and your riding will yield 200+ out there or something?
A.
It took you 9/10ths of a mile to go 195? Thats weak!
LMAO!!!!!
NOW THATS SOME FUNNY SHIT!
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quote:Part of a low speed roll-on is wheelie management as everyone who does it already knows. If you're coming out stretched to avoid the wheelie issue then we are going from a high enough speed where I don't have wheelies from either.
Suffice to say that what that exact speed is I do not know but it will be significantly higher than 3000 rpms, otherwise no deal.
quote:Shane, if you don't want to lock it in just say so dude.
If you're not going to run me from 3000 rpms 1st gear on the stock swingarm like I am just say so now.
Are you stretching the bike or not? Why be so evasive?
A.
You know what I find funny is, how you talk so much smack about being able to whip Shane's ass with all his money in his bikes with your clapped out 12R, but like every "grudge racer" in the world, when it comes down to it you want this or that, always asking for something...lmao.
Dakota, why not try thinking before you speak? He has a very significant HP advantage, I have a very significant weight advantage. If you've drag raced before you already know how much of an advantage wheelbase is. Our weights and HP roughly cancel out. I'm not giving up wheelbase on top of that. Please remember as of this typing both of us are already on stock swingarms for said bikes. He will be the one stretching the bike and I'm not rolling low if he gets to keep stacking the deck in his favor. I've done this enough ... I wasn't born yesterday.
A.
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quote:shipteey, not sure if you know but I live in Texas, Shane is about my weight and has a zx14r with a stock motor, why not try him? He doesn't live in Texas, Just wondering if you're zx12 has ever had any motor parts replaced?
wee
So, Ali, you want to run 9/10th's or not? We can set this up with Sal..
Shane
Shane, what are the terms you are proposing? If you are saying "we" as in "you and I" why would we need Sal? Of course as with any racing both parties much agree to the terms prior to the race otherwise its a no go. I've already proved that the local 9/10ths spot is the safe at 195.6 mph....you think you and your riding will yield 200+ out there or something?
A.
It took you 9/10ths of a mile to go 195? Thats weak!
Is it? Leonidas, what have you done on a stock motor ... umm.....anything.....with any verifiable proof again? Go out and run that number on a stock motor, n/a, stock ride height too sitting tall and show me how fast you go. Quit being a cheerleader, you know you haven't gone that fast with as little as I had done, no need to hate.
A.
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posted February 07, 2012 04:48 AM
Edited By: shiphteey on 7 Feb 2012 12:49
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quote:shipteey, not sure if you know but I live in Texas, Shane is about my weight and has a zx14r with a stock motor, why not try him? He doesn't live in Texas, Just wondering if you're zx12 has ever had any motor parts replaced?
wee
So, Ali, you want to run 9/10th's or not? We can set this up with Sal..
Shane
Shane, what are the terms you are proposing? If you are saying "we" as in "you and I" why would we need Sal? Of course as with any racing both parties much agree to the terms prior to the race otherwise its a no go. I've already proved that the local 9/10ths spot is the safe at 195.6 mph....you think you and your riding will yield 200+ out there or something?
A.
It took you 9/10ths of a mile to go 195? Thats weak!
LMAO!!!!!
NOW THATS SOME FUNNY SHIT!
Was it? Because I'm reading your signature Klipse....and I can't for the life of me figure out what makes you think your trap speeds are so fast. There is nothing standout ish about your trap speeds....and suffice to say I think we both know you'd lose if you lined up with me at the 9/10ths. But keep laughing if it makes you feel better.
A.
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Topping out everything from Ninja 250s to nitrous ZX-14s.
quote:Part of a low speed roll-on is wheelie management as everyone who does it already knows. If you're coming out stretched to avoid the wheelie issue then we are going from a high enough speed where I don't have wheelies from either.
Suffice to say that what that exact speed is I do not know but it will be significantly higher than 3000 rpms, otherwise no deal.
A.
go from a 70 punch.
wee
Wee, if you want to run me with a stock arm we can go from 3000, we can go from 70. But if Shane wants to stretch his stock arm 14R before the run. If he's negating any wheelie I will too. Its just that simple. If he wants to run on a stock arm with me we'll go from traditional 3000 rpms first gear. Takes far more skill to do it as we both sit without either of us having to shell out more money. None of my bikes are stretched and I have no intention of ever running a stretch, he's known that about me since day one. Just not my cup of tea. And I'm not going to stretch my bike just to run one guy one time. He wants to throw MR12 at his bike as it sits now and lighten it up I can do the same and we can dance. But otherwise....sorry.....I'm not claiming any start speed until I go see where there are no wheelie issues. Fair is fair. If Shane really has a problem with that he will say so and the whole negotation process will be aborted right here and now.
A.
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posted February 07, 2012 04:59 AM
Fair is fair lol, I guess you don't know a little person has the advantage when it comes to wheelies,or you do know it and you need the advantage, go from 70
posted February 07, 2012 05:13 AM
It looks like you are the one that needs to think before speaking. Mouth writing checks your ass can't cash.
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posted February 07, 2012 05:22 AM
Hey Shiteey....the way you speak is that you are the baddest man on the planet. I think I've accomplished quite a bit with my little stock motored 14. Now with that I know LSR is sooooo big these days maybe we will run into each other? All I have to do is look for an outdated 12 and I should find you. Me and probably a few others on here would throw some money my way in a run with you. Let's do 1/4 mile then your 9/10s garbage and see who's the quickest and fastest...any takers?
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posted February 07, 2012 05:26 AM
I know my money would be thrown your way.
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2008 ZX14
Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. ~Mark Twain
quote:shipteey, not sure if you know but I live in Texas, Shane is about my weight and has a zx14r with a stock motor, why not try him? He doesn't live in Texas, Just wondering if you're zx12 has ever had any motor parts replaced?
wee
So, Ali, you want to run 9/10th's or not? We can set this up with Sal..
Shane
Shane, what are the terms you are proposing? If you are saying "we" as in "you and I" why would we need Sal? Of course as with any racing both parties much agree to the terms prior to the race otherwise its a no go. I've already proved that the local 9/10ths spot is the safe at 195.6 mph....you think you and your riding will yield 200+ out there or something?
A.
It took you 9/10ths of a mile to go 195? Thats weak!
LMAO!!!!!
NOW THATS SOME FUNNY SHIT!
Was it? Because I'm reading your signature Klipse....and I can't for the life of me figure out what makes you think your trap speeds are so fast. There is nothing standout ish about your trap speeds....and suffice to say I think we both know you'd lose if you lined up with me at the 9/10ths. But keep laughing if it makes you feel better.
A.
Remember, I'm no 100lb jockey, but if you strap 100lbs of weight onto your body, I would race you.
I have tried making my bike consistent, and it is. It's a bracket bike, not a pro street bike.
posted February 07, 2012 07:54 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 7 Feb 2012 16:06
I have to say, this thread is entertaining....and they seem to come along every winter.
Now, on a more serious note....
Real 9/10th's roll-on racing does require a lot of skill....in both setup and rider technique. People have this misconception that all you do is twist the grip and put your head down. Not true at all...there are many setup and rider technique variables to account for. The 9/10th's racing in Florida has proven to be a challenge for talented drag racers, just as the reverse is true. We are talking about speeds of easily 190+ mph in this particular race, speeds that most riders here have never seen (except perhaps on their speedo's). Note that I said "most", not all...
Now, the "negotiations" between Shiphteey and I are pretty simple to understand. Shiphteey is a lightweight and skilled rider at this type of racing. Hell, he probably has 200x more experience topping these bikes out compared to me, if not more.
Neither one of us are noobs though, and we realize where each other might have an advantage in this race. I need to overcome 90+ lbs of weight difference and his experience, and he needs to overcome 25 hp and perhaps better overall setup. Even the bikes have their own set of strengths and weaknesses. Both of us have a chance to win...if we negotiate the terms in our favor. This type of thread has been an almost annual event for us...but we can never come to agree on terms.
nobody vs nobody and nobody gets the hit because nobody is lighter and then nobody gets a rerun if nobody wins ..you get it..
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posted February 07, 2012 10:12 AM
I swear THIS is the only type of racing that I prefer to watch than participate in. Pass the popcorn & snacks please.
I just hope nobody crashes.
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posted February 07, 2012 01:36 PM
Shane, I didn't mean the 9/10's doesn't require skill, I'm leaning more towards the street roll ons.
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