Lsantana954
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posted January 24, 2012 06:48 PM
14R Frame sliders??
Any idea of there any available for the 14R?
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Seno
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posted January 24, 2012 07:36 PM
Muzzys work well, excellent quality...
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vernesoni23
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posted January 24, 2012 08:07 PM
were they hard to install?
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Neilp
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posted January 25, 2012 02:36 AM
Just ordered some muzzys, LSL havent even seen a bike yet.
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Seno
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posted January 25, 2012 02:52 AM
They are simple, and the hardware is top notch. The bolts actually replace motor mount bolts, which are installed from the factory with locktite red. I installed slider bolts with loctite red, had same sliders on my 07.... A+ product
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Shane661
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posted January 25, 2012 04:32 AM
Just so you guys know, be careful using the color of a thread locker to determine it's strength. Honda "medium" is red (at least it used to be); on my Kawasaki's the red also seems to be a medium-duty removal. Not the equivalent of Loctite "red", which is a heavy-duty removal product.
As far as frame sliders, be careful with which ones you install. Since they mount to the motor mounts, they are essentially a big lever attached to the frame. Several people have experienced damage in the frame/cyl head area due to the leverage forces at work. Some of the sliders out there are very tall; that can put a tremendous amount of force on the motor mount area.
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Seno
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posted January 25, 2012 05:15 AM
 Edited By: Seno on 25 Jan 2012 13:16
Good info, thanks! Green is locktite's premier heavy duty product, even though I have removed the red without heat, they do consider it heavy duty. Sliders that attach to frame should require medium/heavy duty, but obviously you need to check the torque spec and make sure there is plenty of clearance... Blue is easiest to remove.
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Shane661
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posted January 25, 2012 05:26 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 25 Jan 2012 13:31
Some good info for those who haven't seen it:
Loctite® Threadlocker Red 271™ is designed for the permanent locking and sealing of threaded fasteners. The product cures when confined in the absence of air between close fitting metal surfaces. It protects threads from rust and corrosion and prevents loosening from shock and vibration. It is only removable once cured by heating up parts to 500°F (260°C).
Loctite® Threadlocker Blue 242® is designed for the locking and sealing of threaded fasteners which require normal disassembly with standard hand tools. The product cures when confined in the absence of air between close fitting metal surfaces. It protects threads from rust and corrosion and prevents loosening from shock and vibration. Loctite® Threadlocker Blue 242® is particularly suited for applications on less active substrates such as stainless steel and plated surfaces, where disassembly is required for servicing.
Loctite® Threadlocker Green 290™ is designed for the locking and sealing of threaded fasteners. Due to it's low viscosity and capillary action, the product wicks between engaged threads and eliminates the need to disassemble prior to application. Loctite® Threadlocker Green 290™ cures when confined in the absence of air between close fitting metal surfaces. It prevents loosening from shock and vibration and leakage from shock and vibration and protects threads from rust and corrosion. The product can also be used to fill porosity in welds, casting and powder metal parts. Localized heating and hand tools are needed for disassembly.
http://www.loctite.com
Beware, it's a threadlocking jungle out there. I typically use the Blue 242 for most apps. 
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dubious
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posted January 25, 2012 02:34 PM
Edited By: dubious on 25 Jan 2012 22:38
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Muzzys work well, excellent quality...
Love the bike man!
Not a fan of rizoma reservoirs
though, they leak ... sight glass is poor design.
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Seno
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posted January 25, 2012 04:21 PM
Thank you brother. As far as Rizoma's go I have never had a pair leak... on 2nd set currently. Hopefully they hold up... brake fluid wreaks havoc on paint & some plastics
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yanassi
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posted January 29, 2012 08:42 AM
Thanks for the info above. I hadn't put my slider on because the 8" rachet didn't move the mounts. Of course I went down pushing a lean. Seems I need to remove fairings to loosen the bolts with heat. Heat paint remover gun or propone torch?
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Shane661
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posted January 29, 2012 08:52 AM
You don't need heat to get the bolts loose. It is a medium-strength threadlocker on them. Use something with leverage, like a breaker bar. A regular ratchet is too short.
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yanassi
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posted January 31, 2012 02:43 PM
Thanks, I ordered a 24" breaker bar.
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