BobK
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posted January 22, 2012 04:46 PM
Brocks SingleSlip on 14R ?
Does anyone know from looking at the 14R exhaust system if it would be possible to have a single slip on set up that would work? A friend of mine just put down 202hp with the stock pipes so I was thinking a single slip on would be cost efficient and probably get good results. Would it need just a different mid pipe?
  
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shawnski
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posted January 22, 2012 04:55 PM
Is not going to happen... Either dual slip on or full system.. for a little more money I will get full system... Gives you more performance and less weight.
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kaw-rick
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posted January 22, 2012 05:02 PM
I just made 1. sucks to be short on cash. but sounds alot better than stock.
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shawnski
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posted January 22, 2012 05:13 PM
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I just made 1. sucks to be short on cash. but sounds alot better than stock.
Any pix???
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kawasakijockey
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posted January 22, 2012 05:23 PM
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A friend of mine just put down 202hp with the stock pipes so I was thinking a single slip on would be cost efficient and probably get good results. Would it need just a different mid pipe?
Not going to work worth a chit. Thats a 1441cc motor you wanna choke back.
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kaw-rick
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posted January 22, 2012 05:30 PM
i dont know how to post pics. but yeh i got 1. i can send ya.
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shawnski
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posted January 22, 2012 05:51 PM
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i dont know how to post pics. but yeh i got 1. i can send ya.
it is ok...no biggy...just curious what you did to it... use image shack if you are familiar.
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kaw-rick
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posted January 22, 2012 06:11 PM
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A friend of mine just put down 202hp with the stock pipes so I was thinking a single slip on would be cost efficient and probably get good results. Would it need just a different mid pipe?
Not going to work worth a chit. Thats a 1441cc motor you wanna choke back.
how could it be any worse than stock mufflers? the exit on 1 side of the header is the same size as smeg midpipe. they just slip mufflers on zx10s all the time.
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kawasakijockey
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posted January 22, 2012 06:44 PM
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A friend of mine just put down 202hp with the stock pipes so I was thinking a single slip on would be cost efficient and probably get good results. Would it need just a different mid pipe?
Not going to work worth a chit. Thats a 1441cc motor you wanna choke back.
how could it be any worse than stock mufflers? the exit on 1 side of the header is the same size as smeg midpipe. they just slip mufflers on zx10s all the time.
It is not the size of the pipe but the flow design that I was getting at.
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2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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kaw-rick
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posted January 22, 2012 06:56 PM
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A friend of mine just put down 202hp with the stock pipes so I was thinking a single slip on would be cost efficient and probably get good results. Would it need just a different mid pipe?
Not going to work worth a chit. Thats a 1441cc motor you wanna choke back.
how could it be any worse than stock mufflers? the exit on 1 side of the header is the same size as smeg midpipe. they just slip mufflers on zx10s all the time.
It is not the size of the pipe but the flow design that I was getting at.
i hear you. but cant be any worse than stock. and not tuned to perfection. hell every1s just throwing whole exhausts on right now with no tuning. rickey gadson didnt even use a muffler lol.
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fullzx12r
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posted January 23, 2012 01:26 AM
we wants pics !!!!!
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Shane661
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posted January 23, 2012 06:53 AM
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we wants pics !!!!!
Rick's bike:
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BobK
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posted January 23, 2012 07:15 AM
Rick, do you have any pics of what it looks like under the bike with how you routed and capped everything?
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kaw-rick
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posted January 23, 2012 10:25 AM
no pics of that. but thats a brocks smeg midpipe clamped on a stock header. i used freeze plug on the other side. i know its crude but have to work for a minute.
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SteddyTeddy
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posted January 23, 2012 10:31 AM
You freezed plugged the other side??? That has to be choking the chit out of that bike!!!
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kaw-rick
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posted January 23, 2012 10:39 AM
teddy how do you figure its choked up? the outlet is the same size as a brocks smeg system. that is a brocks smeg midpipe, with a muzzy muffler with no baffling inside. also the muzzy muffler is the same size inlet outlet as a smegaphone.
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Shane661
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posted January 23, 2012 10:47 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 23 Jan 2012 18:49
The bike is beautiful. 
The stock header is only 8.8 lbs, so you also ditched a lot of weight. If the outlet is the same as the smeg, I don't see an issue?
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SteddyTeddy
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posted January 23, 2012 12:30 PM
Guess it all depends on how the gases are routed out the stock header.
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dakota9498
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posted January 23, 2012 12:36 PM
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Guess it all depends on how the gases are routed out the stock header.
That is the only problem that I could see, I would think that the exhaust wouldn't be routed very efficiently, might have some reversion problems.
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fullzx12r
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posted January 23, 2012 01:35 PM
look OLD SCHOOL ...... 
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cls
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posted January 23, 2012 04:38 PM
That's the same idea I was after: a single can slip-on w/a modified/designed mid-pipe. It sounds like it oughtta' be cheaper than a full exhaust, PC, and tune/map. I would think a single-sided slip-on would not require a remap or the added cost of the full system. I think some talented someone somwhere should make it happen. Unfortuantely, I have no talent for such things. I do have a little money to spend, though...
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Brock
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posted January 24, 2012 08:39 AM
We recently tested our dual slip-ons for the 14R... picked up about 3-4 hp peak and 7-8 in the middle. I'm torn the same as always with slip-ons because the part that makes the power is the part you can't see and the performance enthusiast in ME just can't justify the expense vs. gain. But we have plenty of people who are willing to pay $840 retail for a great look and sound, balanced look, easy install, no mapping hassle and not be bothered with minimal power gains because they feel their bike is already fast enough.
Btw: a single sided slip-on will never happen on this bike - at least not from Brock's!
Brock
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kaw-rick
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posted January 24, 2012 08:53 AM
maybe area p will make 1. lol im not telling any1 what to do. i just fabbed this up bcuz of my lack of funds right now. i will buy a full system when i get right. the stock pipes were hideous and i couldnt take it.
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dakota9498
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posted January 24, 2012 09:12 AM
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maybe area p will make 1. lol
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Yeah, that seems likely since they didn't make one for the 5 + years that the Gen 1 was out.
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cls
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posted January 24, 2012 05:00 PM
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We recently tested our dual slip-ons for the 14R... picked up about 3-4 hp peak and 7-8 in the middle. I'm torn the same as always with slip-ons because the part that makes the power is the part you can't see and the performance enthusiast in ME just can't justify the expense vs. gain. But we have plenty of people who are willing to pay $840 retail for a great look and sound, balanced look, easy install, no mapping hassle and not be bothered with minimal power gains because they feel their bike is already fast enough.
Btw: a single sided slip-on will never happen on this bike - at least not from Brock's!
Brock
www.BrocksPerformance.com
Yeh, I'm not betting, or waiting, on it. Though it would be great...If you buy the dual slip-ons, the full system is not much more. May as well go all the way by then. It looks like another of your full systems is in the cards. I'm waiting on spring, in any event. And for all you tech guys to get everything figured out first. A thousand thanks for that.
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