VINCE12

Expert Class
Designated Drinker.
Posts: 298
|
posted January 01, 2012 10:11 AM
Brock's Radial brackets on '12 14R.... Pics
Brock's radial bracket questions.
The caliper mounting bolts are counter sunk and even with the supplied shims the radial brackets hit the calipers and cause a little damage if you tighten the bolts. When I started to tighten the caliper bolts I noticed it didn't feel right and disassembled and found the clearance issues.
Looks like I would need to tighten quite a bit more to get a good torque. What did you guys do? Tighten all the way and let the radial brackets "clearance" the calipers?



____________
2012 Metallic Spark Black ZX14R
|
WARBIRD

Needs a job
Posts: 2739
|
posted January 01, 2012 10:28 AM
Good eye's Vince........and good pics......
____________
I'd Rather Be Roadracing.
|
Wheelie

Needs a life
Old Man
Posts: 6902
|
posted January 01, 2012 10:38 AM
wee

|
Wheelie

Needs a life
Old Man
Posts: 6902
|
posted January 01, 2012 11:12 AM
Edited By: Wheelie on 1 Jan 2012 19:18
put more washers in between the caliper and the Brocks bracket?
wee
|
VINCE12

Expert Class
Designated Drinker.
Posts: 298
|
posted January 01, 2012 11:23 AM
quote: put the washers in between the caliper and the Brocks bracket.
wee
That's what I did but the supplied washers are only .040 and it looks like about a .100 thick washer would be needed for clearance.
____________
2012 Metallic Spark Black ZX14R
|
VINCE12

Expert Class
Designated Drinker.
Posts: 298
|
posted January 01, 2012 11:30 AM
quote: put more washers in between the caliper and the Brocks bracket?
wee
Yeah I put .090 thick washers in and the brackets just barely hit. I'm a little worried about thread engagement. I've always thought you needed at least the diameter of the bolt in thread engagement. Example would be 1/2" bolt needs minimum 1/2" thread engagement?
____________
2012 Metallic Spark Black ZX14R
|
Wheelie

Needs a life
Old Man
Posts: 6902
|
posted January 01, 2012 11:34 AM
I have one washer and they fit good
wee
|
VINCE12

Expert Class
Designated Drinker.
Posts: 298
|
posted January 01, 2012 11:44 AM
Huh,,, maybe yours came with thicker washers?
With the .090 washers the thread engagement is only 1/4" and the caliper bolts are 3/8" diameter. That's only 4-5 threads holding for each bolt.
____________
2012 Metallic Spark Black ZX14R
|
VINCE12

Expert Class
Designated Drinker.
Posts: 298
|
posted January 01, 2012 11:46 AM
They would probably be fine but I think I'm gonna get longer bolts and .100 thick shims.
____________
2012 Metallic Spark Black ZX14R
|
Bigbore4
Zone Head
Posts: 806
|
posted January 01, 2012 10:13 PM
Rule of thumb is 1.5 times diameter for thread engagement
|
codyc_13

Expert Class
Posts: 342
|
posted January 01, 2012 11:18 PM
Fastenal has longer bolts, should be able to get the washer also..
____________
06 zx14, 65", lowered, muzzy pipe, pcIII, air shifter, Litz revalve, Adams cut seat, OSR cut pan 87 pump gas.
8.97 at 149mph
|
BobC

Pro
Posts: 1736
|
posted January 02, 2012 03:00 AM
On my 06 bike I used four M10 x 70mm Titanium Fine pitch socket cap bolts, (part number TISC1070F from Pro-Bolt) as I thought the threads on the standard caliper bolts would be too short.
I also used a non-permanent thread lock.
____________
Candy Thunder Blue 2006 ZZR1400
Stock wheelbase
Max: 205.4 mph in 1.25 miles
2012 ZZR1400 in Golden Blazed Green
Brock CT Full System. etc
Max: 203.1 in 1 mile (so far)
|
eklipse636

Needs a life
ZX-14
Posts: 6046
|
posted January 02, 2012 03:08 AM
Gring a little spot of the brake to give it more clearance
____________
Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
|
VINCE12

Expert Class
Designated Drinker.
Posts: 298
|
posted January 02, 2012 04:31 AM
quote: On my 06 bike I used four M10 x 70mm Titanium Fine pitch socket cap bolts, (part number TISC1070F from Pro-Bolt) as I thought the threads on the standard caliper bolts would be too short.
I also used a non-permanent thread lock.
Thanks for this info.
____________
2012 Metallic Spark Black ZX14R
|
GREYHOUNDMOSES

Expert Class
Posts: 324
|
posted January 02, 2012 05:51 AM
quote: On my 06 bike I used four M10 x 70mm Titanium Fine pitch socket cap bolts, (part number TISC1070F from Pro-Bolt) as I thought the threads on the standard caliper bolts would be too short.
I also used a non-permanent thread lock.
Same here on my 09.
It seems the 2012 calipers may be slightly different. Best bet is to measure the length of your stock bolt and add the thickness of the bracket (and any washer you use).
|
Lucky14

Pro
Posts: 1439
|
posted January 02, 2012 07:11 AM
Mine are still in the package.
I'll take a look when I get a chance.
____________
You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape.
If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40.
If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape.
|
Lucky14

Pro
Posts: 1439
|
posted January 16, 2012 12:41 PM
VINCE12 - Thank you so much for complicating my life!!! J/KI! LOL!
Actually, good catch.
The stock 10mm bolt screws in about 12.5 turns on my 14R.
Add the bracket and the washer(s) and it only catches 5 threads.
That's not even close to "enough" for me, so I ordered the M10 x 70mm Titanium Fine pitch socket cap bolts that BobC referenced (except from Pro-Bolt USA), since I couldn't find them locally.
I'm sure that the stock bolts have been used on many 14's so they *should* work OK.
I just don't like the thought of my calipers breaking loose at 150mph +
____________
You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape.
If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40.
If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape.
|
Shane661

Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted January 16, 2012 12:43 PM
I shimmed underneath the bracket 5mm and used longer bolts...
|
VINCE12

Expert Class
Designated Drinker.
Posts: 298
|
posted January 16, 2012 12:53 PM
quote:
VINCE12 - Thank you so much for complicating my life!!! J/KI! LOL!
Actually, good catch.
The stock 10mm bolt screws in about 12.5 turns on my 14R.
Add the bracket and the washer(s) and it only catches 5 threads.
That's not even close to "enough" for me, so I ordered the M10 x 70mm Titanium Fine pitch socket cap bolts that BobC referenced (except from Pro-Bolt USA), since I couldn't find them locally.
I'm sure that the stock bolts have been used on many 14's so they *should* work OK.
I just don't like the thought of my calipers breaking loose at 150mph +
You're welcome,,,, hahah. I ordered mine from probolt also and I'm still waiting for them.
____________
2012 Metallic Spark Black ZX14R
|
|