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posted December 30, 2011 07:34 PM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 31 Dec 2011 03:38
Just a bit upset ......
Got a call today that my Evil arm is in the mail today .. Well that is great because i may get it first of next week .. Bad news is they didn't send the axle adjusters .. They will be shipping them next Monday .. No way will the bike have the long arm for test and tune next week ...
So i went ahead and installed my 2 to 7 extensions and have the bike to 64 inches ...
I also got a call from cycle tek that my air shifter was sent out thursday so i should have it for the weekend and get it installed for test and tune Jan 4th ..
So my set up for next weeks test and tune will be 64 inches , 16/42 gears , Brocks Gen 1 smeg , no P/C and co2 shifter... I'm adding 3 of Brock clutch spacer to stuffen up the clutch a bit ..( it felt a bit mushy and i needed a bit more feel to the lever )
Brock is trying to get my Alien Head 2 to me as fast as possible, so if it shows up in time i will install it before test and tune .. He is also working on some maps for the zx10 P/C that at some point will be fitted to my ZX14R
I have no clue if 16/42 gearing is going to work , it just a guess on my part .. I did my best numbers on my old zx14 with 16/41 and that works out the same as 16/42 in the new ZX14R .. With the extra power the new bike has it could be to much gear , a 16/41 or 16/40 may work better , who knows i might have to go totaly the other way .. This why they call it test and tune ..
I did leave the flies in place , i'm just not sure i should pull them at this point .. If the bike 60s and 330s ok with them in i may never pull them .. If it feels weak or has the old gen 1 bog i will pull them and give it a shot .. I just don't see this bike being weak in the low end with 1441 cc .. I hope to be leaving at 5000 to 5500 so the flys may not even come into play at that RPM ..
I will tell you this , the bike looks killer long and low .. Just the way a ZX14R should look .. 
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smokinZX14
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posted December 30, 2011 07:37 PM
I should add i'm leaving the air filter in place .. After seeing Shane bike lose HP on the dyno with the air filter removed i felt it best just to leave it in place .. Thanks Shane for testing that on the dyno ..
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oldkawboy
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posted December 30, 2011 07:42 PM
Lee,
I'm still thinking if the bike is 64" or so the flies will need to come out. If they are slow to open, even 1441cc's may not do the trick!
I was talking to RG recently & he said for SWB he'd leave them in.
Hope you're feeling better Lee.
Dan
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smokinZX14
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posted December 30, 2011 07:47 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 31 Dec 2011 03:55
Damn it ... One more thing because i know you will ask ... The extensions will fit off the gen 1 bike .. Please note there is a gap in the front of the extensions where your old adjust bolts go .. They did fit real tight just like they did on the old gen 1 zx14 but it does have about a 1/4 inch gap ... what i did was leave the old factory adjuster in place screwed all the way in , bolted the extensions on and then backed the factorty adjust out to put pressure on the extensions ... This same extensions on a gen 1 had a small gap on that spot anyway so i don't see how it will hurt anything anyway , if nothing else they are now tighter than they would have been on the gen 1 zx14 ... NOTE: i'm not saying for you guys to try this !!! Let me test it first and make sure there are no problems .. If you do try it before i test them you are on your own !!!! ...
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smokinZX14
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posted December 30, 2011 07:53 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 31 Dec 2011 04:05
quote:
Lee,
I'm still thinking if the bike is 64" or so the flies will need to come out. If they are slow to open, even 1441cc's may not do the trick!
I was talking to RG recently & he said for SWB he'd leave them in.
Hope you're feeling better Lee.
Dan
I agree Dan .. Lets see what happens .. If they need to come out they will get tossed for the next test and tune ..
Dan i'm still feeling not to good , better than weds but still off my game .. I'm in holding pattern till i get the tests back from the Dr .. Hopefully he will have a game plan to get me back to my old self .. If he doesn't i'll find another DR that will ..
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eklipse636
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posted December 30, 2011 08:05 PM
So lee, why would evil send the arm without the adjusters? That doesn't make much sense
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smokinZX14
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posted December 30, 2011 08:08 PM
quote:
So lee, why would evil send the arm without the adjusters? That doesn't make much sense
I agree , i don't get it either ... If they didn't have them in stock they should have called me and let me know ... I know Terry would have ..
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Lucky14
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posted December 30, 2011 09:00 PM
Standing by ............................. can't wait to see the results.
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posted December 30, 2011 09:07 PM
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So lee, why would evil send the arm without the adjusters? That doesn't make much sense
I agree , i don't get it either ... If they didn't have them in stock they should have called me and let me know ... I know Terry would have ..
I agree... Did they give you a logical explanation? If you ordered 3 hole, they could have at least sent one hole, or vise versa... I would be a little on the aggravated side, especially this being for the 14R and not just another bike.
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posted December 30, 2011 10:54 PM
I bet it does 125+ with the extensions, due to the fact that you will actually be able to get in the gas earlier.
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posted December 31, 2011 03:33 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 31 Dec 2011 11:39
Lee, secondary flies are fully open at 5500 and have a more aggressive ramp rate as delivered (compared to other Kaws). I'm interested to see your track results. 
Shane
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oldkawboy
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posted December 31, 2011 04:58 AM
Good info Shane. I thought it felt more neutered than that but I'm used to my 14 being geared kinda low with no flies.
Go get 'em Lee!
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posted December 31, 2011 05:42 AM
This is pretty close to my eventual setup so I'm looking forward to your results. Thanks for doing the testing that the rest of us can't do right now.
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wrongway
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posted December 31, 2011 06:06 AM
quote:
Lee, secondary flies are fully open at 5500 and have a more aggressive ramp rate as delivered (compared to other Kaws). I'm interested to see your track results.
Shane
in which gear ?
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Shane661
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posted December 31, 2011 06:12 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 31 Dec 2011 14:33
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Lee, secondary flies are fully open at 5500 and have a more aggressive ramp rate as delivered (compared to other Kaws). I'm interested to see your track results.
Shane
in which gear ?
Definitely in the lower gears, I am sure of that. It is also my understanding that the changes to the ramp rate on the 08-11 machines were to basically make all gears ramp as quickly as the top gear. I seem to recall that all gears are the same on the 14R, but don't quote me on it, lol....it wasn't my main interest in the discussion. Of course, I am sure we will discover more about this bike as time goes on. But that is the best information that I have right now.
The bottom line is that the bike is not the weakling that the 06-07 machines were at low rpm. And with some wheelbase, launch rpm might be above the point that the flies are going to matter. Time will tell.
Are you considering buying a 14R, Roy?
Shane
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posted December 31, 2011 06:37 AM
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Are you considering buying a 14R, Roy?
Shane
why ? I already have a 1530 bike and a stocker to ride to on the street...
there isnt anything on the new ZX-14 that I need or that I dont have already .
Maybe when the stocker dies I will get one, but with only 25k miles on it , might be a while.
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Shane661
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posted December 31, 2011 06:54 AM
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I also got a call from cycle tek that my air shifter was sent out thursday so i should have it for the weekend and get it installed for test and tune Jan 4th ..
I think you will really like that shifter, and Matt is a good guy to deal with. I need to order one up soon...
Shane
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posted December 31, 2011 04:02 PM
need a pic of the bike . bet it looks right.
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