posted December 05, 2011 08:52 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 6 Dec 2011 04:54
Good very good ... My butt dyno told me 180+ on my short ride ... 188.8 with only 200 miles is great ... Would be nice to put some more miles on it and change to Syn oil .. I bet it goes 195 hp
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Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
quote:Royal Purple at 500!!! and then i will dyno again!
Cool ... Keep us posted ... Oh and welcome to Bikeland ...
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Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
posted December 05, 2011 09:25 PM
Oh yes brock said to tell the dyno guy to let some air out of the rear tire .. I know that goes against what most dyno guys say to do but brock said this bike spins the tire on the dyno very easy because of the extra HP TQ .. Worth a try .. On my Dyno with Roys big motor making 198 HP it would smoke the tire on the dyno .. We had to let it way down to get it to hook up ..
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Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
posted December 05, 2011 09:29 PM
we used 6 large straps on my bike when I had it on a mustang chassis dyno. it was starting to spin just a tiny little bit over 23psi of boost. i also had a shinko hook up drag radial on it...
keep us posted
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posted December 05, 2011 10:10 PM
My 1270 spun on Jim's dyno- let some air out. Don't use Royal Purple, your clutch WILL slip. Use amsoil, Alisyn, something synthetic for bikes. Pull the air filter and I promise it will make 3-5 hp more minimum. The bike will make 190-195 next time you go.
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06 ZX14 65"
Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
posted December 06, 2011 12:17 AM
I use to have a 2001 ZX12R. On Jims dyno made 163hp and the change the oil to Royal Purple on the dyno. Made 5 more HP to the wheel!!! ZX12R are notorious for going thru clutchs!!! Had a 2 stage nos shot 30hp1st 30hp 2nd. 228hp 212tq @wheel!!! and only went thru 2 set of clutchs!!! wheel base was 60in. Drag race from 2001 to 2003 3 to 4 times a week. Best time was 5.90 @ 126mph. Qualified 2nd in bay town 60in bike class TX Shootout back in 2002. Pump gas stock motor no lockup! What really help was i install a vaccum pump. From 9K to red line it over 200 HP!!!! So same mods for my 14! Jim as all my dyno sheets.
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Bet!!!!!
posted December 06, 2011 02:26 AM
RuRu,
What's this vacum pump? Are you saying that you installed a vaccum pump on your 14r and it netted over 200 hp? What was the A/F ratio on your dyno runs. I saw the sniffer in the exhaust pipe.
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2012 zx14R-blue,2012 zx14R-black, 2014 zx14Trbo, 2011 zx10R, 2007 zx10 Turbo.....
Thanks for posting and confirming what we are already thinking.
Any chance he mentioned what a 100% stock Busa or ZX-14 makes on his dyno?
Would love to see the chart.
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If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40.
If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape.
posted December 06, 2011 07:20 AM
Edited By: RICH CRAFT 1 on 6 Dec 2011 15:31
I can tell you that Jim Dino is a long ways from happy. I think the best way of measuring horsepower is using the quarter-mile back half Time, I realized that the front half has a direct effect on what the bike does,but it's still a conservative estimate, because if the front half is quicker. The back half Will also be quicker. take RG back half Time of 3.129 et and use the appropriate front half ET that goes with that back Number and you have a ET of 8.58, use the weight of the bike and rider, @ 550 four the bike, 170 four, the rider = 720 pounds total weight, put that in a power to weight ratio and you get a hp of 225 with ram air I'm not saying it made that, that's just what the calculator said and I have found it to be conservative. take 15 hp off for the ram air gives you a horsepower of 210. Kawasaki did not build these bikes to make horsepower on the dino, but rather going down the road. I think that's why the gen 2 busa showed the same horsepower as the 14 but couldn't stay up with it at the track.
quote:I use to have a 2001 ZX12R. On Jims dyno made 163hp and the change the oil to Royal Purple on the dyno. Made 5 more HP to the wheel!!! ZX12R are notorious for going thru clutchs!!! Had a 2 stage nos shot 30hp1st 30hp 2nd. 228hp 212tq @wheel!!! and only went thru 2 set of clutchs!!! wheel base was 60in. Drag race from 2001 to 2003 3 to 4 times a week. Best time was 5.90 @ 126mph. Qualified 2nd in bay town 60in bike class TX Shootout back in 2002. Pump gas stock motor no lockup! What really help was i install a vaccum pump. From 9K to red line it over 200 HP!!!! So same mods for my 14! Jim as all my dyno sheets.
A few questions, I was qualified at the 02 Texas Shootout too in SBS.
In the 60' class there were only two ZX12's there who qualified top spots. Chip ellis on the red 2000 1286 nitrous bike and Rickey Gadson on the 1361 dry shot 02 blue ZX12. This was oct 2002.
Don't you mean crank case vent instead of vaccum pump, we all did those on our 12's. What color was your bike? Silver?
I'm trying to remember who you are. I had 2 ZX12's at the tracks regularly from 2000-2003 and really only remember racing 1 nitrous bike and it was silver. Of course I'm talking locally, you may not have lived and raced in the Dallas area back then??
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06 ZX14 65"
Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
quote:We are looking at over 25 hp solid to the tire vs gen 1 ZX14. Really closer to 30.
$14K is starting to look like a bargain .....................
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You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape.
If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40.
If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape.
quote:RuRu,
What's this vacum pump? Are you saying that you installed a vaccum pump on your 14r and it netted over 200 hp? What was the A/F ratio on your dyno runs. I saw the sniffer in the exhaust pipe.
NO!!!! Install a V.P. on my 01 ZX12R. It made only 5HP!!! But what really help was the adv. HP and TQ! 8K to redline it made over 200TQ!!! I block off the motor and put on a electric V.P.
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Bet!!!!!
quote:RuRu,
What's this vacum pump? Are you saying that you installed a vaccum pump on your 14r and it netted over 200 hp? What was the A/F ratio on your dyno runs. I saw the sniffer in the exhaust pipe.
NO!!!! Install a V.P. on my 01 ZX12R. It made only 5HP!!! But what really help was the adv. HP and TQ! 8K to redline it made over 200TQ!!! I block off the motor and put on a electric V.P.
You mean 100 lb ft of torque.
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06 ZX14 65"
Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
quote:I can tell you that Jim Dino is a long ways from happy. I think the best way of measuring horsepower is using the quarter-mile back half Time, I realized that the front half has a direct effect on what the bike does,but it's still a conservative estimate, because if the front half is quicker. The back half Will also be quicker. take RG back half Time of 3.129 et and use the appropriate front half ET that goes with that back Number and you have a ET of 8.58, use the weight of the bike and rider, @ 550 four the bike, 170 four, the rider = 720 pounds total weight, put that in a power to weight ratio and you get a hp of 225 with ram air I'm not saying it made that, that's just what the calculator said and I have found it to be conservative. take 15 hp off for the ram air gives you a horsepower of 210. Kawasaki did not build these bikes to make horsepower on the dino, but rather going down the road. I think that's why the gen 2 busa showed the same horsepower as the 14 but couldn't stay up with it at the track.
Ken
Thanks Ken for the info! Im using jims dyno as a measuring stick from here on out. Dynos r not all the same i know that!!!! But it wiil show me if im going in the right direction!
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quote:I use to have a 2001 ZX12R. On Jims dyno made 163hp and the change the oil to Royal Purple on the dyno. Made 5 more HP to the wheel!!! ZX12R are notorious for going thru clutchs!!! Had a 2 stage nos shot 30hp1st 30hp 2nd. 228hp 212tq @wheel!!! and only went thru 2 set of clutchs!!! wheel base was 60in. Drag race from 2001 to 2003 3 to 4 times a week. Best time was 5.90 @ 126mph. Qualified 2nd in bay town 60in bike class TX Shootout back in 2002. Pump gas stock motor no lockup! What really help was i install a vaccum pump. From 9K to red line it over 200 HP!!!! So same mods for my 14! Jim as all my dyno sheets.
A few questions, I was qualified at the 02 Texas Shootout too in SBS.
In the 60' class there were only two ZX12's there who qualified top spots. Chip ellis on the red 2000 1286 nitrous bike and Rickey Gadson on the 1361 dry shot 02 blue ZX12. This was oct 2002.
Don't you mean crank case vent instead of vaccum pump, we all did those on our 12's. What color was your bike? Silver?
I'm trying to remember who you are. I had 2 ZX12's at the tracks regularly from 2000-2003 and really only remember racing 1 nitrous bike and it was silver. Of course I'm talking locally, you may not have lived and raced in the Dallas area back then??
If it was not 02 then it was 03! When i when it was raining fri and sat! There where only 2 zx12r and 1 green from LA and me silver. Chip and Rickey where not in the 60' class when i was there. There where only 2 Silver 12 in Dallas racing. Me and Buddy.... My name is Rudy i was the mexican racing a zx12r. I was yello belly every sunday!!!!!
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Bet!!!!!
quote:RuRu,
What's this vacum pump? Are you saying that you installed a vaccum pump on your 14r and it netted over 200 hp? What was the A/F ratio on your dyno runs. I saw the sniffer in the exhaust pipe.
NO!!!! Install a V.P. on my 01 ZX12R. It made only 5HP!!! But what really help was the adv. HP and TQ! 8K to redline it made over 200TQ!!! I block off the motor and put on a electric V.P.
You mean 100 lb ft of torque.
NO!!! 200 lb ft of torque with 60 shot of nos with the V.B.
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Bet!!!!!
quote:RuRu,
What's this vacum pump? Are you saying that you installed a vaccum pump on your 14r and it netted over 200 hp? What was the A/F ratio on your dyno runs. I saw the sniffer in the exhaust pipe.
NO!!!! Install a V.P. on my 01 ZX12R. It made only 5HP!!! But what really help was the adv. HP and TQ! 8K to redline it made over 200TQ!!! I block off the motor and put on a electric V.P.
You mean 100 lb ft of torque.
NO!!! 200 lb ft of torque with 60 shot of nos with the V.B.
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