quote:I'm betting this 9.31 was run the same day as the video of Ricky running the Busa .. No way he just made a trip back to Vegas to run a few passes with the bike lowered and strapped .. This had to be done on the same day , they ( kawi ) didn't want it posted till now .. If that is the case it was around 2900+ feet DA ...If i remember correctly it was in the high 80s or maybe low 90s ..
Smokin, he's running today. I sent a lowering kit that had to be to them for this test session.
posted November 09, 2011 02:22 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 9 Nov 2011 10:29
quote:it has a back torque limiter(slipper clutch and its much different, but so far 40 runs later, its doing good!
Take a look at how different it is and notice how Kawi milled the basket to make clearance for the 4 mil stroker rod bolt clearances.....................smart!
posted November 09, 2011 02:37 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 9 Nov 2011 11:05
quote:Actually, it is a different day, quote:
ZX14R fans....today is a good day for testing the new flagship in Vegas. Temp last time I was here was in the upper 90's when we shot that 14R video against the Busa, but today its a lot cooler! Stay tuned........
And another:
Derek is the guy who rode the white 2011 Busa in the video. He himself ran an impressive 9.85 146 here in Vegas where the Barometric pressure is 28.16
A tot cooler? 60 degrees?
Barometric pressure: 28.16? Wonder if he meant 29.61???
Track elevation: 2028 feet
Wild guess at 40% humidity.
Put that into a DA Calculator and you get: 3017 feet???
Guess what it would run at sea level???
Vegas at 10.00 am
Track Elevation: 2028
feet above sea level
Air Temperature:
degrees F
Barometric Pressure:
inches Hg
Relative Humidty:
%
Density Altitude: 1634 feet
Relative Density: 95.31 %
The track was 400 ft below track elev at 10am
at 5pm
Density Altitude: 1935 feet
Relative Density: 94.46 %
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posted November 09, 2011 06:43 AM
quote:
quote:Actually, it is a different day, quote:
ZX14R fans....today is a good day for testing the new flagship in Vegas. Temp last time I was here was in the upper 90's when we shot that 14R video against the Busa, but today its a lot cooler! Stay tuned........
And another:
Derek is the guy who rode the white 2011 Busa in the video. He himself ran an impressive 9.85 146 here in Vegas where the Barometric pressure is 28.16
A tot cooler? 60 degrees?
Barometric pressure: 28.16? Wonder if he meant 29.61???
Track elevation: 2028 feet
Wild guess at 40% humidity.
Put that into a DA Calculator and you get: 3017 feet???
Guess what it would run at sea level???
Vegas at 10.00 am
Track Elevation: 2028
feet above sea level
Air Temperature:
degrees F
Barometric Pressure:
inches Hg
Relative Humidty:
%
Density Altitude: 1634 feet
Relative Density: 95.31 %
The track was 400 ft below track elev at 10am
at 5pm
Density Altitude: 1935 feet
Relative Density: 94.46 %
So 1634 for air is not bad, those numbers are not that slow then for running there. sure some tracks see -feet of air but most common here all year for us was best I ran in was 1543 and worst this year I ran in was 3450
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posted November 09, 2011 09:41 AM
I've been racing alone time and always thought it was the feet of air that mattered the most anyway? and air in the 1600 foot range is pretty common
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posted November 09, 2011 09:54 AM
quote:Around here in Texas 1600ft is pretty damn good
Well that's what I think for here in Iowa as well. so that bike won't be the .30 faster here then what it did in vegas. not saying it's not .30 faster mod for mod then the gen 1 but that's what it's going to run here like that. I really need to drive to one of these tracks that are .30 faster just once so I can post some killer times all my shit is ran in 1600 to 3500 feet!
posted November 09, 2011 10:21 AM
went thru the traps in the middle of 4th gear....149mph...if he only picks up 2 tenths and 2 mph by moving to a faster track... that would give him a 9.1x @ 151mph with the stock pipes and stock gearing....
posted November 09, 2011 11:57 AM
That pressure he measures with barometer is actual not the corrected for altitude that is posted by weather stations. Yesterday it was -780 DA even not racing that feels fast real easy power wheelies.
quote:Around here in Texas 1600ft is pretty damn good
Well that's what I think for here in Iowa as well. so that bike won't be the .30 faster here then what it did in vegas. not saying it's not .30 faster mod for mod then the gen 1 but that's what it's going to run here like that. I really need to drive to one of these tracks that are .30 faster just once so I can post some killer times all my shit is ran in 1600 to 3500 feet!
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posted November 09, 2011 12:36 PM
quote:
quote:
quote:Around here in Texas 1600ft is pretty damn good
Well that's what I think for here in Iowa as well. so that bike won't be the .30 faster here then what it did in vegas. not saying it's not .30 faster mod for mod then the gen 1 but that's what it's going to run here like that. I really need to drive to one of these tracks that are .30 faster just once so I can post some killer times all my shit is ran in 1600 to 3500 feet!
quote:Around here in Texas 1600ft is pretty damn good
Well that's what I think for here in Iowa as well. so that bike won't be the .30 faster here then what it did in vegas. not saying it's not .30 faster mod for mod then the gen 1 but that's what it's going to run here like that. I really need to drive to one of these tracks that are .30 faster just once so I can post some killer times all my shit is ran in 1600 to 3500 feet!
what does the BeeMW run same setup?
wee
Whats that have to do with what I said?
I thought I clicked on Famous1 9.1 correction factor post, do you know what it ran? only real number we have is a 9.31 for the 14r, is that faster than the BeeMeer?
posted November 09, 2011 01:00 PM
Vegas track is over 2000 feet above sea level . .. No matter how you run the numbers you can't change that .. Dallas ( Ennis) is 960 feet ..Sac is 96 Feet .. Atco is pretty much sea level as well as my track BMP FL .. We see DA here of 3000+ in the summer here in FL But i bet our track at a DA of 3000 is still faster than Vegas is at 2000 feet..
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Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
posted November 09, 2011 01:06 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 9 Nov 2011 21:13
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:Around here in Texas 1600ft is pretty damn good
Well that's what I think for here in Iowa as well. so that bike won't be the .30 faster here then what it did in vegas. not saying it's not .30 faster mod for mod then the gen 1 but that's what it's going to run here like that. I really need to drive to one of these tracks that are .30 faster just once so I can post some killer times all my shit is ran in 1600 to 3500 feet!
what does the BeeMW run same setup?
wee
Whats that have to do with what I said?
I thought I clicked on Famous1 9.1 correction factor post, do you know what it ran? only real number we have is a 9.31 for the 14r, is that faster than the BeeMeer?
wee
We would have to ask Brock if he ever ran the bmw with just a strap and lowering links .. I can't recall if he ever did run it like that .. I know his SS BMW ran 8.90s ( maybe faster ) with JT riding ..
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Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
quote:Around here in Texas 1600ft is pretty damn good
Well that's what I think for here in Iowa as well. so that bike won't be the .30 faster here then what it did in vegas. not saying it's not .30 faster mod for mod then the gen 1 but that's what it's going to run here like that. I really need to drive to one of these tracks that are .30 faster just once so I can post some killer times all my shit is ran in 1600 to 3500 feet!
what does the BeeMW run same setup?
wee
Whats that have to do with what I said?
I thought I clicked on Famous1 9.1 correction factor post, do you know what it ran? only real number we have is a 9.31 for the 14r, is that faster than the BeeMeer?
wee
We would have to ask Brock if he ever ran the bmw with just a strap and lowering links .. I can't recall if he ever did run it like that .. I know he SS BMW ran 8.90s ( maybe faster ) with JT riding ..
well that rider is allot lighter than RG, and I guarantee he aint runnin pump fuel, so I have a feeling the 14r will outrun those numbers with that monkey riding it with mr12, piped, mapped.
posted November 09, 2011 01:20 PM
my next question, adding a Brock Whizbang pipe, Brock tuned, same track as JT is on, geared, mr12, featherweight pro, will the 14r gain 7-8 mph?
quote:my next question, adding a Brock Whizbang pipe, Brock tuned, same track as JT is on, geared, mr12, featherweight pro, will the 14r gain 7-8 mph?
wee
It should .. My stock 14 ran 142 MPH ... With Brocks whizbang pipe and whizbang tune ran an avg of 152 .. That was with pump gas .. ____________
Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
posted November 09, 2011 01:51 PM
I went 139 mph on a 14 that 3 days later trapped 149 with gearing and micron full system, me riding again. No other changes. So I say Pump gas I say 10 mph solid and mr12 12mph if weather conditions are the same.
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06 ZX14 65"
Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
posted November 09, 2011 02:10 PM
By the looks of JT's time slips and the 1/8 th mile mph between 126-127, that beemer is going to be crushed against the 14R with bearings, full system and MR12. Richard crushed the numbers this vid is showing also with the ZX10 if im not mistaken, with much bigger trap speeds using a slip on. Believe it or not, this vid is "dated" there are short quicker and faster bikes.
The beemer may not have 99 problems, but it's now the bitch, and the 2 faster Kawasaki's aint one..
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Best 1/8 mile 5.68@126.4 on a 1.41 60'
Best 1/4 mile 8.87@152.7 on a 1.47 60'
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