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posted July 27, 2011 06:15 AM
4000 rpm stumble, CT duals and no flies TRE
Hey guys,
I have brocks CTduals on the 09 SE, PC5, with brocks street map.
I have the flies out map, flies out, and Iavn TRE, so it gets the same ignition timing in every gear, as 5th gear, and does not kill fuel completely when I chop the throttle.
It works good, no throttle chop lean pop like I had before.
The bike has much more mid range than the 06 did with the SMEG,
So much more mid range I rarely ever rev it out, as it feels like it runs flat on top, compared to the smeg too.
I also have the rifleman 1/5 throttle insert.
My problem is the bike stumbles at about 4000 rpm, when i snap it open, and also when its hot I get a stumble around 2500 when I slow ly open the throttle.
Its way worse than it sounds when i type it like this, the bike just doesn run clean below 4000 like my 06 +smeg did.
Has anyone else noticed any fueling issues with their CT pipes, or Ivan TRE?
My next instal will be a wego 3 I have lying around and a 2 map switch and try street tuning it.
Does the powercommander LCD display work with PC5?
then i wouldnt even need a laptop to tune it while out for a ride.
It seems to have much more mid range than my 06 did, the lack of top end like the 06 with SMEG might only be perception due to the nice pull around 7000 rpm.
I love the new midrange, I find Im short shifting the bike all day long and just pulls like a raped ape. TORQUE!
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posted July 27, 2011 07:17 AM
The lcd200 will work with the pcv. If you used your lcd with a pciii, chances are you have an lcd100. I've heard the only difference is a firmware update. So, go onto the dynojet website and update the lcd firmware and it should work fine. I would guess that you should pull the tre first and see if that changes anything. Other than that, I'm fighting the same thing, but my stutter/stumble sounds worse than yours..... probably not the same problem, but I'm getting my autotune to try and tune it out.... Good luck.
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posted July 30, 2011 05:38 AM
 Edited By: dubious on 30 Jul 2011 13:40
Hmm, I guess nobody else has had this problem with their CT pipe and map?
Well one thing for sure, the bike is a beast. The old Vmax is a pussy cat compared to this thing. I know i shouldnt be suprised but I was without a zx14 last summer, and forgot how fast the freak is!
a kick in the ass for sure! haha
I love dropping the clutch at 7000 rpm from about 10 mph and having the front tire lift while the back tire is spinning! haha :
what a riot!
Next up >>>
06 injectors, CNC head, and 47mm TB, and of course gonna hide a 2lb bottle and 60HP shot under the seat!
 
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posted July 30, 2011 09:12 AM
what happened to Frankenstein?
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posted July 30, 2011 11:27 AM
Edited By: dubious on 30 Jul 2011 19:29
Its sitting in the garage waiting for a rainy days, and Garret GT35R, and some wiring to complete.
I needed a "street bike" so I picked up this 09, and have been riding the piss out of it.
I have been working too many hours, and days away ( 9 out of 14 days at a time) from home to concentrate on Frankenstein, and Im not wasting a single sunny day in the garage.
This winter I'll have the funds and time to get it finnished.
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posted August 01, 2011 06:45 AM
Edited By: dubious on 1 Aug 2011 14:48
Im gonna grind down the initial pull angle on the throttle insert, and remove the TRE006A and see if it runs better.
Im thinking there is too much advance in the lower gears,
Then hoo afr meter , and tune
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posted August 01, 2011 07:17 AM
Edited By: Rook on 1 Aug 2011 15:20
Does the powercommander LCD display work with PC5?
The lcd200 will work with the pcv. If you used your lcd with a pciii, chances are you have an lcd100. I've heard the only difference is a firmware update. So, go onto the dynojet website and update the lcd firmware and it should work fine.
I called DJ and worked with a customer service tech on the phone. He was able to install the firmware through interactice computer session with LCD USBed to my computer. This was about a year ago. You may be able to switch your own firmware through the DJ website. I would just call and ask for them to do it. All of the functions now work with both the PCV and Autotune 200. Before the firmware update, the only thing that worked was the the AFR gauge because the LCD 100 was configured for the AT but not the PCV.
Not sure what your exact tuning equipment is, dub...but with my AT-200 and PCV, I still NEED a computer to accept trims. The LCD won't do that can't do that. In fact, it does not even show you a fuel table. The computer w dj spftware is the only thing that does that AFAIK.
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posted August 01, 2011 07:39 AM
hey thanks for the heads up Rook.
Ill just use the wego3 afr logg, then and use the PC to tune the map I guess.
I already own a wego, and wont buy more DJ stuff unless it does what I need it to.
I found the LCD to be a bit of a joke the first time around, and other than verifying what map was enguaged fro my nitrous application, it was mostly useless IMO.
has the autotune worked well for tuning out drivavbility issues?
The Bazzaz i have used only had a single AFR Set point for the entire map.
Does the autotune let you tune for multiple afr in different areas of their map?
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posted August 01, 2011 12:47 PM
post some pics of the bike dubious
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posted August 01, 2011 08:37 PM
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hey thanks for the heads up Rook.
Ill just use the wego3 afr logg, then and use the PC to tune the map I guess.
I already own a wego, and wont buy more DJ stuff unless it does what I need it to.
I found the LCD to be a bit of a joke the first time around, and other than verifying what map was enguaged fro my nitrous application, it was mostly useless IMO.
has the autotune worked well for tuning out drivavbility issues?
The Bazzaz i have used only had a single AFR Set point for the entire map.
Does the autotune let you tune for multiple afr in different areas of their map?
autotune let you tune for multiple afr in different areas of their map? Yes it does .. Auto tune for just drag racing where you are at WOT all the time doesn't work well in the lower RPMs but it will work fine for daily riding .. I had problems with twin pipes in the past and the problems allway showed in the mid range .. Same bike with a single pipe and same jetting ran fine.. Install the twin pipes and ran like shit in the mid range .. I had to really change the jetting to get rid of the problem .. I would also toss that TRE.. 
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posted August 02, 2011 08:09 AM
Hmm, Thanks for the input Lee. Much appreciated
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posted August 03, 2011 04:33 PM
I have my Brocks CT single and PC V ordered. I elected to skip the TRE.
I'll let you know what I end up with.
As far as the Bazzazz, I had one with the auto tuner in my R6 racebike last summer. I hated it. I'm going with the PC V this time. I hope it is much better.
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posted August 04, 2011 02:35 AM
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hey thanks for the heads up Rook.
Ill just use the wego3 afr logg, then and use the PC to tune the map I guess.
I already own a wego, and wont buy more DJ stuff unless it does what I need it to.
I found the LCD to be a bit of a joke the first time around, and other than verifying what map was enguaged fro my nitrous application, it was mostly useless IMO.
has the autotune worked well for tuning out drivavbility issues?
The Bazzaz i have used only had a single AFR Set point for the entire map.
Does the autotune let you tune for multiple afr in different areas of their map?
autotune let you tune for multiple afr in different areas of their map? Yes it does .. Auto tune for just drag racing where you are at WOT all the time doesn't work well in the lower RPMs but it will work fine for daily riding .. I had problems with twin pipes in the past and the problems allway showed in the mid range .. Same bike with a single pipe and same jetting ran fine.. Install the twin pipes and ran like shit in the mid range .. I had to really change the jetting to get rid of the problem .. I would also toss that TRE..
I never had a problem with my TRE.......it STOPPED the deacell pop .........Street Bike rode it to work every day. I also had a Muzzy advancer set at 3 degrees advance. Killer low end and SMOOTH. M14 flies out 2007.
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