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posted July 22, 2011 07:52 PM
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chads bike also ran 160+mph too . if i remember right .. right along with the 8.40 165mph brock beemers too.. but i think muzzy had a super streetbike too
What we all need to do is run a Jeff0 map and we can all run 10s !!! 
jeffo just a phone call away with a card swipper ready ..
but i found this .. http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=6570&z=5
That would be a great pipe and map if we raced strapped down on a dyno .. 
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posted July 22, 2011 07:56 PM
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That would be a great pipe and map if we raced strapped down on a dyno ..
you did and the other guy won.. don't remember what pipe he had 
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posted July 22, 2011 08:06 PM
Apples to oranges becuase it wasn't done on the same day,but conditions were comparable and on the same dyno, with the map that was built for mine compared to other 14's in his files mine made 3hp more then the 3 brock piped bikes compared to. We were'nt as lean either.
Chain replaces,sprockets replaced,new clutch and better oil are on the bike now.So after some seat time, I guess I will know something.
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posted July 22, 2011 08:36 PM
Fuck pipes just Turbo that shit!!!
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posted July 23, 2011 06:55 AM
There are so many factors that go into a fast bike! The first one being weight , type of fuel, riding skills, and wheelbase. the one overlooked the most is altitude adjustment. This weekend the NHRA is running in Denver the mile high city. The density altitude10,000 FT, the hp loss for Pro Stock cars is 335 hp to sea level, Pro Stock motorcycle's 71hp.a half a second ET for both,it all adds up. About the pipes I still think Brocks has the best pipe although I see a couple places it could be improved but I'm sure cost is a factor. I was Bart on a muzzy pipe after a couple hours of grinding on the inside of the welding it was just acceptable. I looked on the inside of a M14 and it was better but I still think Brocks has the advantage. Getting back to what this Is really about, I really feel sorry for RG he is between a rock and hard place! I hope everything turns out well.
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posted July 23, 2011 07:33 AM
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I really feel sorry for RG he is between a rock and hard place! I hope everything turns out well.
Ken
I have no first hand knowledge, but i'm "guessing" that Brock gets more out of using Rickey's name than what Rickey gets from Brock.
That said, Brock has been one of the good guys in the aftermarket mc biz, and i wanna see it stay that way.
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posted July 23, 2011 07:38 AM
I've been 8.50s on my bone stock engine with a Brocks exhaust :-)
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posted July 23, 2011 07:42 AM
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That said, Brock has been one of the good guys in the aftermarket mc biz, and i wanna see it stay that way.
Please explain good guys in the MC aftermarket biz .. Is that like a good insurance agent or politician
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posted July 23, 2011 08:31 AM
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I've been 8.50s on my bone stock engine with a Brocks exhaust :-)
You have done the same with a M14. This thread has turned into a look
at my exhaust. It's about Brock removing CNC from the pictures. One
of the mods posts Brock is one of the Good Guys....so is Mr. Muzzy
And back to the topic of this thread was Jim at CNC is one of the GOOD
guys too and look what happened. What if YOU were JIM??????????
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posted July 23, 2011 09:17 AM
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That said, Brock has been one of the good guys in the aftermarket mc biz, and i wanna see it stay that way.
Please explain good guys in the MC aftermarket biz .. Is that like a good insurance agent or politician
Good Guys in the MC aftermarket biz .. Explained:
Bryan Snyder owner of Quantum Motorsports, for answering and returning my calls(sometimes on weekends) teaching me how to adjust maps for conditions (plus much more), and refusing to take a dime for it. GOOD GUY
Brock for returning my e-mails and helping get the most out of his maps even thou I had a used pipe that he did not make a direct dime from. GOOD GUY
Don, owner of Bessemer City Cycles for teaching me the history of motorcycle drag racing and how it applies now. GOOD GUY
Cycle Concepts, for teaching me how to set-up a clutch. GOOD GUY
Coby, Garron and Dale, of Adams Performance for teaching me the basics of nitrous and only selling me what works and nothing more. GOOD GUYS
Ryan Schnitz(Schnitz Racing) and Cecil Towner (HTP) for free nitrous advice. GOOD GUYS
Reed Nordin of Kawasaki Team Green, for his support. GOOD GUY
Bill owner of Custom Speciaties Cycles for sponsoring my nitrous and tires. GOOD GUY
These Are the Good Guys in the MC aftermarket BIZ that I will Vouch for. They all went above and beyond what was reqiured of them and/or what they were paid for just to help me be the best I can be.
Thanks Guys,
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posted July 23, 2011 11:00 AM
BLK ICE
now why don't you start your own thread on all those GOOD GUYS and we will see how many have disappointed other customers ..
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posted July 23, 2011 11:06 AM
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Please explain good guys in the MC aftermarket biz .. Is that like a good insurance agent or politician
I keep track of of all the suppliers i use, good & bad.
The GOOD GUY list below is about 1/2 of my suppliers list; i deleted the ones who gave me bad service.
Head work, Busa kits Bob Carpenter @ Carpenter Race Engi 856-753-1555, 117-A Cross Keys Road, Berlin, NJ 08009
OEM Parts - Suzuki Ashley Cooper, Boulevard Suzuki 800-595-5068 , 386-740-2453 Deland Motorsports, 2610 S. Woodland Boulevard, DeLand FL 32720
Pistons: CP Pistons, LLC 949 - 567 - 9000 1902 McGaw Ave. Irvine, CA 92614 | USA
Head porting, valve jobs Jim Gilnack Competition CNC 860-274-0631 , 98 Falls Ave, Oakville, CT, 06779, Michelle does billing
Head gaskets & shims Kevin @ Cometic 440 354 0777, 8090 Auburn Rd, Concord, OH 44077
TB's - Busa - bored, 49mm straight Don Mason Montgomery Motorsports - (407)-539-2701 700 Harco Drive, Clayton OH 45315
velocity stacks John Hartley Hartley Enterprises cell 262-893-5145, Waukesha, WI
Fuel Injectors/service (California) Wayne, Carol @ RC Engineering 310 320-2277, 20807 Higgins Court, Torrance, CA. 90501 Pacific: 8:30-5:30
Fuel Injection systems & service Tim, Nancy Marren Fuel Injection 203-267-3835 91 Willenbrock Rd. Unit B2 Oxford, CT 06478. 9:00am to 5:30pm EST time Monday - Friday
Bucket well boring, etc (DaveO rec) Rick Stetson, Harry's Machined Parts 508-366-1455 15 Belmont St, Rte 9 W, Northborough MA 01532; Bob did the bucket wells Feb 2008
Crank stroking & repair David Eden @ Marine Crankshaft - (714) 549-2388, New address: 2155 So Grand Ave, Santa Ana, CA 92705
Transmission rebuild Mark Doucette, R&D Motorsports 727 447 4552 9-6, M-Th, EST: 1632 N Hercules Ave Bldg G, Clearwater, FL 33765
Block boring & reconditioning Curt, Scott, Millennium Technologies - 920-893-5595, 1404 Pilgrim Road, Plymouth, WI 53073
Exhaust System Dennis Murray Engineering 541-484-1176, 90339 Shore Lane · Eugene OR · 97402 call after 9am PST
Crower Rods Crower Cams & Equipment Inc 619-661-6477 6180 Business Center Court, San Diego, CA 92154
Rod Sizing Bill Carlquist Competition Engines 860-274-0742, 98 Falls Ave, Oakville, CT, 06779
Carrillo rods new Barry @ Carrillo 949 498 1038 990 Calle Amanecer San Clemente, CA 92673
Carrillo rod reconditioning Homer @ Carrillo 949 498 1038 990 Calle Amanecer San Clemente, CA 92673
Rod both stretch tool Dyer's Top Rods 800-867-7637 619 N. Center St. Forrest, IL 61741
Cams, cam repair Faith, Debby, Web Cam Inc 951.369.5144, 1815 Massachusetts Avenue, Riverside, CA 92507-2616 USAM-F, 8-4:30PM Pacific
Cams, cam repair Barbara, Megacycle 415 472 3195, M-F 9-5 PST, 90 Mitchell Blvd, San Rafael, CA 94903,
oil pans w/swinging pickup Koenig Engineering (515) 244-1410 1425 Maury St Des Moines, IA 50317 Email: koenig@koenigeng.com
Spark plugs Yvonne Priaulx - sparkplugs.com 888-800-9629 - customer service, also Olivia Smith http://www.sparkplugs.com
Powercommander advice stan/gerald/kyle(returns) @ Dynojet 800-992-4993, Kyle x1147 Dynojet, 2191Menden Hall Dr, N. Las Vegas, NV 89081
AiM dash, logging system, sales Bill Warner, Wildbros Racing 813-230-3302 Tampa, FL
DL-32, LM-1, XD-16, O2 sensors, etc Scott, sales, Felipe-Tech Innovate Motorsports (714) 372-5910, 15312 Connector Lane - Huntington Beach, CA 92649
electrical connectors, terminals Jim at Easternbeaver.com great stuff Shizuoka, Japan
exhaust systems Murray Engineering 1-541-484-1176 90339 Shore Lane · Eugene OR · 97402 dennis@murrayexhaust.com
Air shifter parts Matt Thomas @ Cycle-Tek tel?? Huntley, IL
Shift light, ECU flashing kit etc Greg Smith, boostbysmith.com 517-743-3666 4870 Shepper Rd, Stockbridge, MI 49285
Swingarms Trac Dynamics 661 295 1956, 28042 Ave. Stanford Unit B Valencia, CA 91355
Swingarms Terry, Robbyn McIntosh Machine & Fab 937-687-3936 11 S. Church St., New Lebanon, OH 45345
Brake caliper mod (lo drag) Thomas (or Tommy) Miceli 609 528 9466 cell # is 917-669-9164. 30 Samaritan Way, Manalapan, NJ 07726, TMiceli@medavante.com
Brake pads CycleBrakes.com 800 805 2118, CA
Ceramic bearings Dave Conforti @ WorldWide Bearings 800-575-3220, also Ryan, 216 Little Falls Rd #1 • Cedar Grove NJ 07009
Used Parts - Hayabusa Andy 818-523-7412 busaman66 on SH.org, California
Schnitz stuff Connie, or Ryan Schnitz Motorsports 800-837-9730 222 N 3rd Street - Decatur, IN 46733 (open 7am Houston time)
Brock stuff Brock Brock's Performance Products (937) 912-0054 4064 East Patterson Road, Dayton OH 45430 8-5 M-F
Star Racing stuff George Bryce Star Racing 800-841-7827, 149 Crisp Dr., Americus, GA. 31719, M-Th 8am-6pm, F 8am-12pm
APE stuff, cyl head studs Jay, Chris for orders @ APE SH.Org 661-256 7309, A.P.E. 7347 Rosamond Blvd., Rosamond, Ca. 93560
RPM stuff (Busa Lockup, billet valve) Jason RPM Cycle Performance 870-863-4630 1100 Champagnolle Road, El-Dorado, AR 71730
Summit stuff "http://www.summitracing.com/ 330-630-3030 (gen'l) several stores, one = 770-288-3200 - 20 King Mill Road, McDonough, GA, 9am-9pm
aftermarket stuff Doug Ray @ Spencer Cycles - 800 510 1945 x10, Spencer, N Carolina Tu-Sat??? 10am EST
Catalyst - bodywork Bonnie - Catalyst Racing Composites, 760-510-9799, 320 S. Pacific St. Suite D, San Marcos, CA 92078
wind screens Hot Bodies Racing
Oil - Royal Purple JEGS - Royal Purple - part# 831-01041 - XPR, 10W40, "Racing 41"
Oil - Motul 300V 4T 15/50 LTB Motorsports 888-211-1538 5585 Schenck Ave #2, Rockledge, FL. 32955
VP fuel in Houston Smiley's Racing Products of Houston, 281.362.7872 1622 Sawdust Rd, The Woodlands, TX 77380 M-Th: 9-6, F: 9-4, Sat: 9-2
VP fuel from VP HQ Brad (tech) VP World HQ (210) 635-7744 7124 Richter Rd, Elmendorf, TX, Brad cell 210 241 1192
tools - special sockets for Busa Dave Franklin email = [mailto:myturbobusa@yahoo.com] or paypal = tdcfrank@bellatlantic.net
tools - chain, flywheel, all kinda stuff MotionPro 650.594.9600 867 American Street San Carlos, CA 94070, M-F 8am - 5pm PST
AN fittings, hose, fire-sleeve Aircraftspruce.com http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ha/anfittings.html
AN fittings, hose, (Houston) Merv @ Texas Performance (713) 991-7990, 8302 Jet Pilot St, Houston, TX 77075
Tires Motorcycle Superstore 877-668-6872 Roseburg OR
Surface Treatment/coating Izumi Ogawa WPC Treatment Co 310 782 8647 cell 310-961-0303 2909 Oregon Court, Unit C-2, Torrance, CA 90503
Powder coating, anodizing Jody, Alcoat 713 695 3609 13 Farrell St, Houston, TX (off Airline, N of 610)
painting (MC & car) Colt Bateman 252-217-2000, 4425-D FM 2351, Friendswood, TX
Baxley motorcycle chocks Motorcycles Unlimited 281-444-0545 1964 FM 1960 West, Houston, TX 77090
Trailer Hitches Master Hitch 713-974-4440 5300 Glenmont DR, Houston, TX 77081
Leathers Bates, great boots(Drag Race) 562 426 4001 1663 Earst Street, Signal Hill CA 90755
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posted July 23, 2011 11:16 AM
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now why don't you start your own thread on all those GOOD GUYS and we will see how many have disappointed other customers ..
1bad:
ALL suppliers have disappointed someone; thousands of transactions make for some bad experiences, no matter how good you are.
But, 1/2 of the transaction is in the customer's hands. You have influence in how it turns out.
I'm pissed at Sprocket Specialists at this moment. Despite my best efforts they just suck.
Oh well, they go on my bad supplier list.
For me Brock is on the bubble, and i'm hoping he ends up on the side of the angels.
More is in play than just a sticker.
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posted July 23, 2011 11:33 AM
"1bad:
ALL suppliers have disappointed someone; thousands of transactions make for some bad experiences, no matter how good you are.
But, 1/2 of the transaction is in the customer's hands. You have influence in how it turns out."
I couldn't have said it better.
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posted July 23, 2011 11:39 AM
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now why don't you start your own thread on all those GOOD GUYS and we will see how many have disappointed other customers ..
1bad:
ALL suppliers have disappointed someone; thousands of transactions make for some bad experiences, no matter how good you are.
OH i understand that . but it seems like i'm on the bad end more than the good when dealing with AFTERMARKET GUYS ..i'm glad i don't deal with any of them no more and if i do its in person .. Granger and Bike Bandit and NAPA Have just about anything i need or i make it .. BUT I THINK BIKELAND NEEDS A STICKY OF GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS ..
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posted July 23, 2011 12:09 PM
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now why don't you start your own thread on all those GOOD GUYS and we will see how many have disappointed other customers ..
1bad:
ALL suppliers have disappointed someone; thousands of transactions make for some bad experiences, no matter how good you are.
OH i understand that . but it seems like i'm on the bad end more than the good when dealing with AFTERMARKET GUYS ..i'm glad i don't deal with any of them no more and if i do its in person .. Granger and Bike Bandit and NAPA Have just about anything i need or i make it .. BUT I THINK BIKELAND NEEDS A STICKY OF GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS ..
LMAO I thnik I will stroll in NAPA any buy a part for my turbo...... :-)
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posted July 23, 2011 12:26 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 23 Jul 2011 20:54
"I really feel sorry for RG he is between a rock and hard place!"
+1
I think he would do well if he open his own online aftermarket store carrying his own signture brand and the parts from his sponsors and others. And if his sponsors really wanted to help him and themselves, they should give him a deep discount on the parts he makes look so good for them. Sponsor make money, RG makes money, and customers get to see what they are spending their money on in action.
And Rickey, I know you are reading this thread, go ahead and get Rich and a few more best of the best (and remember every team needs quality big man in the middle, ME) undercontract and claim every record and take it too next level displaying what these products can really do. You can't be the front man forever.
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posted July 23, 2011 12:46 PM
Wow this is a pissy thread
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posted July 23, 2011 12:47 PM
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Granger and Bike Bandit and NAPA Have just about anything i need or i make it .. BUT I THINK BIKELAND NEEDS A STICKY OF GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS ..
1bad,
I agree with you.
A "good guys" list is easy; but for for Fish to post a bad guys list might be a legal can of worms.
BTW: if you are a fan of Grainger, give McMaster-Carr a try; same 500,000+ items in stock, but McM-C's search capabilty is 100X better than Grsinger's.
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posted July 24, 2011 06:07 AM
I've hAd great dealings with sprocket specialists!
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LAB3
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posted July 24, 2011 06:18 AM
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Ditto............ glad to see Bill Eason Shop is not on the Good Guys List.
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posted July 24, 2011 07:54 AM
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A "good guys" list is easy; but for for Fish to post a bad guys list might be a legal can of worms.
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Most forums has whats called a blacklist or sort that members post on about who screwed them and shitty service .. i taught it was a great idea to leave some kind of feedback on ..
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posted July 24, 2011 08:08 AM
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2-3 years ago, i said the same thing, not these days, and i'm not alone.
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posted July 24, 2011 09:40 AM
Karl thanks for sharing your info, contacts and all!
much appreciated!
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posted July 24, 2011 10:15 AM
1320bikes.com has a place to list companies like Bill Eason.
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