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posted July 22, 2011 01:46 PM
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how much faster did the one with jim's head go v/s the one with "brock only" parts?
Over 3 mph
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posted July 22, 2011 01:47 PM
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Did the one with "brock only" parts go fast enough to set a new record if the one with jim's head wasn't there?
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posted July 22, 2011 01:58 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 22 Jul 2011 22:00
"As I told you I made the pipe on the bike because no one makes a pipe of the dimensions the engine needed and since you insisted that the BST wheels had to be in used conjunction with your pipe I said that wouldn't be possible and I did not want to put a brocks emblem on the megaphone because its not a brocks megaphone. If I did that would be misleading."
Jim, are you saying the record setting bike did not even have a real Brock's pipe on it? DAMN!
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posted July 22, 2011 02:40 PM
Brock, what Brock's Performance parts were on the record setting bike?
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posted July 22, 2011 03:02 PM
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"As I told you I made the pipe on the bike because no one makes a pipe of the dimensions the engine needed and since you insisted that the BST wheels had to be in used conjunction with your pipe I said that wouldn't be possible and I did not want to put a brocks emblem on the megaphone because its not a brocks megaphone. If I did that would be misleading."
Jim, are you saying the record setting bike did not even have a real Brock's pipe on it? DAMN!
Sorry I was refering to the Competition CNC zx14 bike. Brocks slipons were on both bikes.
The green bike with our new CNC ported head set both records in both the fuel and Gas classes.
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posted July 22, 2011 03:05 PM
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Did the one with "brock only" parts go fast enough to set a new record if the one with jim's head wasn't there?
Yes, the black bike went 203 and that would have been good enough to set both class records.
Brocks slip-ons do make power. you cant take anything away from that for sure.
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posted July 22, 2011 03:44 PM
Whatever Rob Muzzy did in the past made no difference to me when I decided to buy the M14. There were only 2 reasons why I bought this exhuast system.
Cost $795 to my door
Ground clearance +1" more the any non-sidewinder
I really do not see how map support is a selling point becuase I have run EVERYONE's map and realized on the dyno, we have to change ALOT from those maps and I mean all of them.
I run Brock's bolt-ons on my bike and they serve their purpose without issue, which is what I care about.
I as a consumer will buy parts from Brock's-so long as they work for me. Same goes for Muzzy. Unless someone sponsors me or compensates me in some way-
I see both points of view in this thread, and agree with both in general.
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posted July 22, 2011 04:03 PM
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Whatever Rob Muzzy did in the past made no difference to me when I decided to buy the M14. There were only 2 reasons why I bought this exhuast system.
Cost $795 to my door
Ground clearance +1" more the any non-sidewinder
I really do not see how map support is a selling point becuase I have run EVERYONE's map and realized on the dyno, we have to change ALOT from those maps and I mean all of them.
I run Brock's bolt-ons on my bike and they serve their purpose without issue, which is what I care about.
I as a consumer will buy parts from Brock's-so long as they work for me. Same goes for Muzzy. Unless someone sponsors me or compensates me in some way-
I see both points of view in this thread, and agree with both in general.
Yep. I agree.....I had a M14 for several years....still would but I sold the 2007 14 with it on it. :-(
Maybe next year when arm heals I will look for a Metallic Red 2010 14 and buy another m14. :-)
I have 8 different maps for a 14 not much difference from a Brocks or a Muzzy M14 flies out map.
Adjust map on dyno A/F to where you live. Laugh it up but Ivans data logged map was "Smoothest" in the Ozark Mountains.
Not quickest doing roll on's back home at 60 in 2nd. Cost you a 1/2 bike in every gear to be smooth, a little rich..
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posted July 22, 2011 06:11 PM
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Whatever Rob Muzzy did in the past made no difference to me when I decided to buy the M14. There were only 2 reasons why I bought this exhuast system.
Cost $795 to my door
Ground clearance +1" more the any non-sidewinder
I really do not see how map support is a selling point becuase I have run EVERYONE's map and realized on the dyno, we have to change ALOT from those maps and I mean all of them.
funny thing is, The fastest stock motor zx14's in north Texas are running brocks maps... Hrm... Food for thought.
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posted July 22, 2011 06:25 PM
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Whatever Rob Muzzy did in the past made no difference to me when I decided to buy the M14. There were only 2 reasons why I bought this exhuast system.
Cost $795 to my door
Ground clearance +1" more the any non-sidewinder
I really do not see how map support is a selling point becuase I have run EVERYONE's map and realized on the dyno, we have to change ALOT from those maps and I mean all of them.
funny thing is, The fastest stock motor zx14's in north Texas are running brocks maps... Hrm... Food for thought.
I agree ..
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posted July 22, 2011 06:30 PM
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Whatever Rob Muzzy did in the past made no difference to me when I decided to buy the M14. There were only 2 reasons why I bought this exhuast system.
Cost $795 to my door
Ground clearance +1" more the any non-sidewinder
I really do not see how map support is a selling point becuase I have run EVERYONE's map and realized on the dyno, we have to change ALOT from those maps and I mean all of them.
funny thing is, The fastest stock motor zx14's in north Texas are running brocks maps... Hrm... Food for thought.
I agree ..
Jones performance tuned mine as the Brocks map as the base map and he made minor changes to gain the few hp and smooth it out.
For street or occasional track days, it wouldn't have been worth tuning.
Yes, maps are worth $when buying a exhaust.
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posted July 22, 2011 06:31 PM
well while y'all are agreeing i remember an olde boy that wasn't a lite weight rider with a muzzy pipe stock motor running as fast or faster.. ninjaboy
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posted July 22, 2011 06:45 PM
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well while y'all are agreeing i remember an olde boy that wasn't a lite weight rider with a muzzy pipe stock motor running as fast or faster.. ninjaboy
Well Pats bike was very very fast .. But his best numbers were done with a light rider and 69 inch wheel base in good air ... Just as mine were .. I tried a few different maps and pipes and found Brocks race map and pipes to work best for me .. My zx14 migh not be thet fastest stock motor zx14 but i think for the way it was set up it was damn close to the fastest ..
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posted July 22, 2011 06:53 PM
I didn't buy my pipe FROM brock, so i'm pretty sure i can't get a map.. So i'm going to get tuned and have my own map. lol
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posted July 22, 2011 06:53 PM
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as far as I'm concerned nobody ever got that $1,000.00 muzzy standing offer ..
http://66.199.148.107/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=27119&pagenumber=3
i'd sure like to see muzzy pull a grand from his pocket
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posted July 22, 2011 07:00 PM
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as far as I'm concerned nobody ever got that $1,000.00 muzzy standing offer ..
http://66.199.148.107/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=27119&pagenumber=3
i'd sure like to see muzzy pull a grand from his pocket
Stick&Stones M14 beat GilbertJJ Brocks on a dyno test that got a lot of attention last year.........
until the M14 won...........sure got Quiet around here. :-) jus sayin.
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posted July 22, 2011 07:03 PM
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as far as I'm concerned nobody ever got that $1,000.00 muzzy standing offer ..
http://66.199.148.107/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=27119&pagenumber=3
i'd sure like to see muzzy pull a grand from his pocket
I never heard about that offer .. I would have been happy to run any bike with the same mods as mine that was using a Muzzy pipe and map .. Ibad you ever seen a zx14 with the same mods as me go as fast as mine did ? There could have been and have not heard about it , lots of guys don't post their numbers so maybe you know somethiing i don't ..
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posted July 22, 2011 07:07 PM
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smokey i just saw ninjaboy post about the houston cop .. look at his sig ..your 2009 and his 2006 are close.. and you had the newest stuff brock makes on that 09 ..and everybody says 09's are faster than 06's anyways
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posted July 22, 2011 07:22 PM
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smokey i just saw ninjaboy post about the houston cop .. look at his sig ..your 2009 and his 2006 are close.. and you had the newest stuff brock makes on that 09 ..and everybody says 09's are faster than 06's anyways
I do feel the 09 is faster than the 06 ,, My 06 went 8.77 on MR9 while my 09 went 8.76 on pump gas .. But you have to look at the mods of Pats bike Vs my bike .. Pats bike if i remember all the details was 69+ inches long , he removed a lot of weight on his bike and that included after market wheels, MR9 fuel .. And lets not forget Pat is one of the very best riders out there .. My bike had no weight removed other than the pipe swap , i was at 62 inches and running pump gas .. You just can't compair the pipes or maps that way ..You would have to compair two bikes with the same mods and the only differance being the pipes and maps..
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posted July 22, 2011 07:23 PM
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..double post .. 
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posted July 22, 2011 07:34 PM
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smokey i just saw ninjaboy post about the houston cop .. look at his sig ..your 2009 and his 2006 are close.. and you had the newest stuff brock makes on that 09 ..and everybody says 09's are faster than 06's anyways
I do feel the 09 is faster than the 06 ,, My 06 went 8.77 on MR9 while my 09 went 8.76 on pump gas .. But you have to look at the mods of Pats bike Vs my bike .. Pats bike if i remember all the details was 69+ inches long , he removed a lot of weight on his bike and that included after market wheels, MR9 fuel .. And lets not forget Pat is one of the very best riders out there .. My bike had no weight removed other than the pipe swap , i was at 62 inches and running pump gas .. You just can't compair the pipes or maps that way ..You would have to compair two bikes with the same mods and the only differance being the pipes and maps..
all i've got to compare is muzzy VS brocks . you guys said all the fastest bikes are brocks bikes .. clearly thats not true .. now we crawfish into same bike same pipe same map.. this worst than grudge racing .. what you need the hit and the wiggle before you race ..
clearly you got the newer bike with the newest brock pipe with a lighter rider
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posted July 22, 2011 07:38 PM
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smokey i just saw ninjaboy post about the houston cop .. look at his sig ..your 2009 and his 2006 are close.. and you had the newest stuff brock makes on that 09 ..and everybody says 09's are faster than 06's anyways
I do feel the 09 is faster than the 06 ,, My 06 went 8.77 on MR9 while my 09 went 8.76 on pump gas .. But you have to look at the mods of Pats bike Vs my bike .. Pats bike if i remember all the details was 69+ inches long , he removed a lot of weight on his bike and that included after market wheels, MR9 fuel .. And lets not forget Pat is one of the very best riders out there .. My bike had no weight removed other than the pipe swap , i was at 62 inches and running pump gas .. You just can't compair the pipes or maps that way ..You would have to compair two bikes with the same mods and the only differance being the pipes and maps..
all i've got to compare is muzzy VS brocks . you guys said all the fastest bikes are brocks bikes .. clearly thats not true .. now we crawfish into same bike same pipe same map.. this worst than grudge racing .. what you need the hit and the wiggle before you race ..
Ok i bad have it your way .. Chads stock motored zx14 ran 8.60s and guess what it had a Brocks pipe and map ..
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posted July 22, 2011 07:41 PM
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chads bike also ran 160+mph too . if i remember right .. right along with the 8.40 165mph brock beemers too.. but i think muzzy had a super streetbike too
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posted July 22, 2011 07:45 PM
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chads bike also ran 160+mph too . if i remember right .. right along with the 8.40 165mph brock beemers too.. but i think muzzy had a super streetbike too
What we all need to do is run a Jeff0 map and we can all run 10s !!! 
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posted July 22, 2011 07:49 PM
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chads bike also ran 160+mph too . if i remember right .. right along with the 8.40 165mph brock beemers too.. but i think muzzy had a super streetbike too
What we all need to do is run a Jeff0 map and we can all run 10s !!!
jeffo just a phone call away with a card swipper ready ..
but i found this .. http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=6570&z=5
If you're looking for the top performing exhaust system for the ZX-14 look no further. This is the exhaust that Super Street Bike Magazine awarded the "Most Full System HP" after dyno testing 18 exhaust systems in the January 2011 Exhaust Shootout feature.
Dyno tested at well over 200hp!* Independent testing put this exhaust ahead of all the competition in overall power.
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