epd345
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posted July 19, 2011 05:45 PM
Damn well Nuts!
I know this one has been beat like a dead horse but I just have to mention again what a shitty design those well nuts are that mount the grills! I installed a BMC filter tonight and of course I tried to re-use the well nut and I pushed it right into the air box. Had to lift the tank and dig it out. Just a piss poor design all in the name of saving a couple cents.
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posted July 19, 2011 05:57 PM
I concur.
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posted July 19, 2011 07:25 PM
Everyones been complaining for years . . . . .
Bob
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1badzx12r
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posted July 19, 2011 07:38 PM
 Edited By: 1badzx12r on 20 Jul 2011 03:39
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Everyones been complaining for years . . . . .
Bob
But i was the 1st
mudda fukking wellnutz
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Compton
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posted July 20, 2011 03:59 PM
glad i got rid of those a long time ago.
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eklipse636
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posted July 20, 2011 04:17 PM
How did you get rid of them?
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smokinZX14
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posted July 20, 2011 04:38 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 21 Jul 2011 00:39
Two bikes and never had a problem with mine .. Jesse bike has been apart a half a zillon times and never had one go bad .. I have had two other zx14 in my shop that we did have to replace them .. The cause of the well nuts going bad is over tighting them ..
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Compton
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posted July 20, 2011 04:42 PM
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How did you get rid of them?
welded in two pieces of round stock into the frame and just tapped that for the bolts. no more rubber in airbox
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Rook
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posted July 20, 2011 05:05 PM
Edited By: Rook on 21 Jul 2011 01:05
I think the well nut idea is great. The problem is that some of us can't seem to believe they will stay in with just a little tension. You go and tighten them up and they will break.
The only screws that ever come loose on my bike are the NON well nut screws. The well nuts stay where you put them. Thread i until they start to squeeze the rubber then go another turn and a half. Plenty. never busted a nut since I started trusting them.
Suzuki makes their well nut fasteners with a shoulder so you can't overtighten. You bottom the shoulder and that is all the tension necessary for the rubber to hold the screw in place. If you want to tighten the shoulder against the surface it butts up to you can do it but the rubber won't be getting squashed if yo do.
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posted July 20, 2011 06:29 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 21 Jul 2011 02:31
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The cause of the well nuts going bad is over tighting them ..
that may be some of it .. but i don't agree . along with that #2 grounding terminal being a problem .. and the cam chain tensioners rattling .. and along with #3 rods letting go.. that ain't all owners faults .. but i sure you'll tell me mopar paint is great too.. and the ram truck dashes don't crack either .. and the ram trucks didn't have a steering problem ..
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MJ
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posted July 21, 2011 04:47 AM
Most everythings crap anymore.......whatever it takes to maximize profits eh?
The new world order lol
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epd345
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posted July 22, 2011 02:01 PM
i guess I have been overtightening them, they look like mushrooms when im done with them.
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dogszzr
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posted March 13, 2012 05:16 AM
I agree I've been over tightening mine. I mushroomed 3 so far. Can't order from the web cuz they are +$4 each. Found http://www.desmoparts.com/category/parts-catalog/screw-kits-motorcycle-stainless-steel-kits/kawasaki
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posted March 13, 2012 06:26 AM
Cheap parts
They build things cheaply, but they kicked our ass at Pearl Harbor.
'Build a very strong engine....wish all the other parts throughout the bike were as well made. That way they stay employed over there making new parts, so when we break them....they sell us more.....they have been screwing us since Dec. 7, 1941...what else is new!
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codyc_13
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posted March 13, 2012 07:45 AM
Excuse my ignorance, but quick wellnuts can break off into the airbox?
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Shane661
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posted March 13, 2012 07:59 AM
Yes, they can come apart and the metal part get sucked into your motor. Don't overtighten them. The 14R has the same setup.
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codyc_13
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posted March 13, 2012 09:09 AM
Crap, I meant to say WHICH wellnuts can be sucked into the airbox
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Shane661
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posted March 13, 2012 09:11 AM
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Crap, I meant to say WHICH wellnuts can be sucked into the airbox
The ones on the side of the frame, where the bolt attaches the grills. There are two of them, one each side.
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glarior
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posted March 13, 2012 09:52 AM
My well nut failed and I lost my mid fairing at 194mph during a run at Texas mile. Never knew until I was told by someone that "something black flew off your bike"
For once the video camera was facing back and caught it coming off. Happens so quick!
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Shane661
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posted March 13, 2012 10:40 AM
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My well nut failed and I lost my mid fairing at 194mph during a run at Texas mile. Never knew until I was told by someone that "something black flew off your bike"
For once the video camera was facing back and caught it coming off. Happens so quick!
Sounds like you might have had a problem with more than one fastener! 
Shane
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