posted July 02, 2011 11:55 AM
LOL at the end of the day Shane, I never said we were GOING to race the guy. I was merely DISCUSSING the possibilities. It is you, and ONLY you who is trying to actually PUSH a race. You aren't even a party in it. You'd never street race, so why go on and on with needless babble? You don't street race....remember?
Tell me why I should setup a race I haven't even talked to Roy about?
Again, who are you and what interest is it of yours who I race? You're nothing more than a wannabe "Don King". Why not just have a seat instead of continually trying to goad people into a race you have no interest in?
Nigga go weigh some parts or swap something to something.
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posted July 02, 2011 12:03 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 2 Jul 2011 20:05
So, you are probably not going to race this Lambo...but just talk about what "might" happen if you did? Hey, that's fine...I'm more interested in hearing about a real race....what I thought this thread was about...and I think 01smokes is planning just that.
As far as me street racing...well, never say never...right? Will you be ready to answer that call?
posted July 02, 2011 12:08 PM
LOL that I'm just "talking shit"
Shane have you ever raced at the 9/10ths in S.FL? NOPE.
You ever raced 800HP Vipers on the street? NOPE.
Ever raced against 400 HP busas on the street? NOPE.
Ever raced against 800+ HP Supras on the street? NOPE.
Ever put a football field on a 700 HP Supra on the streets from a 70 mph roll? NOPE.
Ever raced against 650+ HP Porsche 911s that was going over 190 on GPS in 26 degree weather? NOPE.
Ever go as fast on that ACE PERFORMANCE 1287 at the local 9/10ths as I did on the stock 12 I just resurrected on GPS? NOPE. You went 182 on the yellow GPS which is 181.5 to 182.4 and I went 182.6.
And theres more too.....these are just some of the cars off the top of my head. So like I said...you can call it ego pumping....I call it confidence and I'd go so far and say you lack the skills, balls and heart. Keep makinging excuses but the fact of the matter is it takes all 3 to do this.
Argue all you want but my results speak for themselves. I've been there, done that, and I still DO THAT. Unlike you who hasn't done that and has no intention to whatsoever....but still wants to keep running their mouth and talk shit.
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quote:So, you are probably not going to race this Lambo...but just talk about what "might" happen if you did? Hey, that's fine...I'm more interested in hearing about a real race....what I thought this thread was about...and I think 01smokes is planning just that.
As far as me street racing...well, never say never...right? Will you be ready to answer that call?
Shane
Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap now you're talking about racing me? Hahahahahaha Mr. "Lets start from 2nd gear and shut it down in 5th and please don't post the video or results on line because I'll disappoint Sal"......ooooooooookay buddy!!!!!"
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Shane have you ever raced at the 9/10ths in S.FL? NOPE.
You ever raced 800HP Vipers on the street? NOPE.
Ever raced against 400 HP busas on the street? NOPE.
Ever raced against 800+ HP Supras on the street? NOPE.
Ever put a football field on a 700 HP Supra on the streets from a 70 mph roll? NOPE.
Ever raced against 650+ HP Porsche 911s that was going over 190 on GPS in 26 degree weather? NOPE.
Ever go as fast on that ACE PERFORMANCE 1287 at the local 9/10ths as I did on the stock 12 I just resurrected on GPS? NOPE. You went 182 on the yellow GPS which is 181.5 to 182.4 and I went 182.6.
And theres more too.....these are just some of the cars off the top of my head. So like I said...you can call it ego pumping....I call it confidence and I'd go so far and say you lack the skills, balls and heart. Keep makinging excuses but the fact of the matter is it takes all 3 to do this.
Argue all you want but my results speak for themselves. I've been there, done that, and I still DO THAT. Unlike you who hasn't done that and has no intention to whatsoever....but still wants to keep running their mouth and talk shit.
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"Presenting: Ali...in his own words."
I am seriously laughing right now dude, thanks!
Shane
PS. Regarding my testing on my 1287...I also know it did it with no lower fairings and me sitting nearly straight up due to a big data logger on the tank (as the pics show). Hell, you even know that I was making tuning passes...you were carrying my laptop in your backpack!!
posted July 02, 2011 12:18 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 2 Jul 2011 20:20
quote:
Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap now you're talking about racing me? Hahahahahaha Mr. "Lets start from 2nd gear and shut it down in 5th and please don't post the video or results on line because I'll disappoint Sal"......ooooooooookay buddy!!!!!"
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Again...LMAO...we agreed to shut down early because I was out of injector duty cycle. As far as disappointing Sal..that wasn't the issue. I thought some asshat might quote the numbers without the conditions behind them....oh wait, that's you now.
Besides, I posted the video...it's like, WTF are you talking about? This guy is out of control!!
posted July 02, 2011 12:41 PM
Thats what I thought Shane. Keep dancing around the issue. You don't street race, you barely race, yet somehow me or anyone else should somehow entertain the thought of actually answering questions you pose regarding who will run.
It won't be you, ever, so why not just shut the fuck up. It might be me one day, it might not, I'd have to talk to Roy about it.
And I'll take asshat any day of the week compared to being a drunk fuck who can't tie his own fucking shoelaces and spreads lies about me on the internet (intentionally) because I called you fat and slow and it hurt your fucking feelings. I let shit slide for a while. But you kept jumping into threads with your little peanut gallery 2 cents and your fake smiley faces ... its all good....at the end of the day I'm proud of my accomplishments and as far as a true racer you'll never .... ever.....be able to fill my shoes. You don't have the heart. But keep buying those expensive parts and .... well....thats about it really.
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quote:Ali, you are getting over the top. Yup, the top.
This thread isn't about yr credentials, its about the ability of the Lambo to take on a 300hp bike from a 40-160mph rollon.
Keep to the topic, eh?
Hey Karl, maybe you should remind your boy Shane that he isn't a shotcaller. This whole thread was a discussion....he tries to slant it and say those who would run are full of hot air. He can sit on the sidelines and warm the bench, some of us actually do this and dont' need to answer to him. Thats my point.
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posted July 02, 2011 12:44 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 2 Jul 2011 20:45
quote:Thats what I thought Shane. Keep dancing around the issue. You don't street race, you barely race, yet somehow me or anyone else should somehow entertain the thought of actually answering questions you pose regarding who will run.
It won't be you, ever, so why not just shut the fuck up. It might be me one day, it might not, I'd have to talk to Roy about it.
And I'll take asshat any day of the week compared to being a drunk fuck who can't tie his own fucking shoelaces and spreads lies about me on the internet (intentionally) because I called you fat and slow and it hurt your fucking feelings. I let shit slide for a while. But you kept jumping into threads with your little peanut gallery 2 cents and your fake smiley faces ... its all good....at the end of the day I'm proud of my accomplishments and as far as a true racer you'll never .... ever.....be able to fill my shoes. You don't have the heart. But keep buying those expensive parts and .... well....thats about it really.
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Dude, WTF are you talking about?? It must be the "emotional" Ali again...
Nobody spread lies about you. More like spreading truths....lol
And I am smiling...I love seeing you reinforce everything that has been said. Nice to see the "real" Shiphteey online for a change!
posted July 02, 2011 12:52 PM
How about we just race.....me and you?
How about we set that up RIGHT NOW?
Sup....what....don't have a bike that runs? :-)
I'll run you at the spot, one run....what do you wanna put on it? After all, it was you trying to buy the pot for the April 2011 Maxton meet with me on my 12 running n/a against your ACE 1287.....right?
SUP?
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posted July 02, 2011 01:02 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 2 Jul 2011 21:03
quote:How about we just race.....me and you?
How about we set that up RIGHT NOW?
Sup....what....don't have a bike that runs? :-)
I'll run you at the spot, one run....what do you wanna put on it? After all, it was you trying to buy the pot for the April 2011 Maxton meet with me on my 12 running n/a against your ACE 1287.....right?
SUP?
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Trying to "buy the pot"...there was no money involved....just getting you to agree to race me in a straight up race. Not like it was where you "called me out"...and then said you planned to lose. WTF is that??? A joke???
Pretty convenient calling for a race right now when you know my bike is in pieces, right? That's like striking gold for you, right?
We'll see how anxious you are when it is back together, I guess. But for now you can have your "emotional victory" by making a hollow challenge.
Now, back to the thread at hand...unless you want to talk some more about your accomplishments.
posted July 02, 2011 01:05 PM
Roys bike on motor ran 163 pretty easy with me riding and that was naked .. Fact with a 200 pound rider it also went 163 .. With Roys big 100 shot i would think it would be running in the upper 170s to 180s in the 1/4 mile .. I say 180s because i have seen a friends stock motored ZX14 with a 80 shot go 183 in the 1/4 mile .. Can these cars run them numbers in the 1/4 mile ? I know my friends twin turbo viper can , he has been close to 200 running in the 1/4 mile ..
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quote:Roys bike on motor ran 163 pretty easy with me riding and that was naked .. Fact with a 200 pound rider it also went 163 .. With Roys big 100 shot i would think it would be running in the upper 170s to 180s in the 1/4 mile .. I say 180s because i have seen a friends stock motored ZX14 with a 80 shot go 183 in the 1/4 mile .. Can these cars run them numbers in the 1/4 mile ? I know my friends twin turbo viper can , he has been close to 200 running in the 1/4 mile ..
250 motor hp can definitely run into the 170's in a light chassis. But on the street, traction and wheelie issues seem like pretty serious issues...when compared to an AWD car...
posted July 02, 2011 01:11 PM
SHANE DO YOU AGREE? WHAT IS THE WAGER? YOU HAVE A 1287, 1427 AND A BIG 1500+CC BIKE......WHY SO SCARED? COME PUT YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE. EASY TO TYPE ON THE INTERNET, COME OUT AND SEE WHATS UP.
Smokin...well put. But....what do you know about "racing" ;-) Best to just do a million "test and tunes" and not actually race much while talking shit on the bench :-)
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posted July 02, 2011 01:15 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 2 Jul 2011 21:17
quote:SHANE DO YOU AGREE? WHAT IS THE WAGER? YOU HAVE A 1287, 1427 AND A BIG 1500+CC BIKE......WHY SO SCARED? COME PUT YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE. EASY TO TYPE ON THE INTERNET, COME OUT AND SEE WHATS UP.
Smokin...well put. But....what do you know about "racing" ;-) Best to just do a million "test and tunes" and not actually race much while talking shit on the bench :-)
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Holy shit!! This is even more hilarious...all the shit you talked about Lee and now you are on his balls in the forum!
Who is "scared" to race you?? Wow, talk about an out of control ego. Did you not read what I wrote? All this from the guy who put Roy's 1534 solidly in the 11's at the dragstrip.
As far as shit talkers....I never claimed anything...other than if you don't set something up to race the Lambo you are just here to talk shit. I see that is more true than ever, now.
posted July 02, 2011 01:46 PM
Edited By: entropy on 2 Jul 2011 21:48
hey guys, this issue is classic benchracing, good stuff, how about keeping it that way?
The basic issue:
A Lambo can EASILY, and i mean a walk in the park, put 20mph on 300 hp bike in the standing Mile. Can we agree on that?
BUT
Can that Lambo beat a 300hp bike in a 40-160mph rollon?
Smoke & some others say no.
Power to weight and aeros seem to indicate the Lambo would win, but reality might turn out differently.
Gotta remember that a rollon to 160 (where did that number get cast into concrete?) is more about who gets to 160 first = ET than it is terminal mph. If the Lambo comes steaming by at 180mph when the bike already hit 160 and shut down??.
Personally, I find this question interesting
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posted July 02, 2011 04:19 PM
Edited By: entropy on 3 Jul 2011 00:35
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quote:A Lambo can EASILY, and i mean a walk in the park, put 20mph on 300 hp bike in the standing Mile. Can we agree on that?
I really think your over estimating the car .. or the 300hp bikes are like Jon Von's busa..
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Nope,
not overestimating the car, i've seen several of them race over the last year & a half: 230'smph, many 240's, one 250.x.
The fastest nitrous bike in the Mile is Guy Caputo's 228? at Maxton. He was probably running more than 300hp.
With one exception, Dean's recent 245 on a turbo 1000, all 240+mph machines are heavy duty turbo Busas, and i'd guess all of them are 400+hp. Just a guess.
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quote:Roys bike on motor ran 163 pretty easy with me riding and that was naked .. Fact with a 200 pound rider it also went 163 .. With Roys big 100 shot i would think it would be running in the upper 170s to 180s in the 1/4 mile .. I say 180s because i have seen a friends stock motored ZX14 with a 80 shot go 183 in the 1/4 mile .. Can these cars run them numbers in the 1/4 mile ? I know my friends twin turbo viper can , he has been close to 200 running in the 1/4 mile ..
250 motor hp can definitely run into the 170's in a light chassis. But on the street, traction and wheelie issues seem like pretty serious issues...when compared to an AWD car...
Some time back I raced a twin turbo mustang from a 60 roll on .. He claimed 1000 hp and Ford Speed backed up his claim ..We went from a 60 roll and i let him have the move ..I had no problem putting 10 cars on him and then i let off .. I saw no need to keep going because he was not coming back on me .. I don't think i got over 180 MPH.. Later at BMP i did see the guy again, he was running low 9s at 165 or so.. I guess it's possible that in a full mile he might go faster ( MPH ) than me but i think i would have got there quicker..
My bike at the time was around 62 inches with a shinko and i had no problem hooking it or wheelys either... We do or did race on bridges that are 6 miles long.. This are all concrete bridges and hook very very good..
I don't know if 01Smokes can win this race or not .. My guess is he can win if he runs his race , meaning he calls the shots on the type of race ..
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posted July 02, 2011 05:40 PM
Cool...I think that an extra 500 hp and awd might make a very big difference though. Will be very interesting to see. Obviously a 250 mph car in the mile is going to get there very quickly too....
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