01smokes

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posted May 27, 2011 10:13 PM
quote: Ok how many MPH will or should this pick up in a 1/4 mile if I were to have it done to my bike?
Does anyone have ANY IDEA or is everyone on here selling dyno numbers. Because I could give two dog shits less about what dynos say I want real world numbers...
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posted May 28, 2011 04:05 AM
I guess that depends on wether you already have 47mm throttle bodies and running MR12 with a good tune.
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posted May 28, 2011 07:07 AM
quote: I guess that depends on wether you already have 47mm throttle bodies and running MR12 with a good tune.
I have a STOCK that traps 100 mph now say if I were to put all the stuff on my STOCK bike that they have listed about how many MPH will I pick up 1-2 or 10-15 or???
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posted May 28, 2011 08:17 AM
I believe the general rule of thumb is 1 mph for every 3 hp, given that all things are equal.
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posted May 28, 2011 08:30 AM
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quote: Ok how many MPH will or should this pick up in a 1/4 mile if I were to have it done to my bike?
Does anyone have ANY IDEA or is everyone on here selling dyno numbers. Because I could give two dog shits less about what dynos say I want real world numbers...
+1 I wanna build my motor and would like to choose the right place to do it and without real numbers I cant decide.
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posted May 28, 2011 08:39 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 28 May 2011 16:41
I've seen this combo run at my local track. Now I am going by what the rider tells me as far as his setup...so I can't say it is 100%. He told me he has big TB's, running on race fuel, and a Competition CNC Supersport head.
He is putting about 5-6 mph on Racheal with her setup, on the same day. She has the TB's and Fuel, but no head work. His combined weight is probably 25-30 more lbs than hers. On the same 60 foot he ran about .10 quicker, even despite the weight difference. I'm pretty sure that Dakota knows the guy I am talking about.
This isn't exactly scientific because of different bikes and riders, but you get the picture. His bike is definitely strong and runs a lot of mph.
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posted May 28, 2011 08:52 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 28 May 2011 17:15
Just to add...the rider looks to me to be about 170-175 lbs. He is running 8.9x@156-159 mph....on 1.5x 60 foots. The bike has been 160-162 mph range in cold air. Crotchrocket has also seen this bike run...the guy was saying "stock motor" to me at first. Of course, some do consider it stock if the bottom end is stock/unopened and all stock parts are used.
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posted May 28, 2011 10:55 AM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 28 May 2011 19:16
Guessing on my part but if it makes 211 HP it should run as fast as my bike on a 30 shot that made 207 on the dyno .. ( 8.50s @ 163 ) That would be my bike with me riding , what it would run with a different rider i have no clue ..
The problem i see is everyone that gets one of these SS heads goes into shut up mode and gives out NO numbers .. Hell they will not even tell us they got the Head in the first place ..
I'd love to test one of these heads but i have no money to play with right now .. I have set of 47 tbs setiing in my shop that i haven't tested either ..As far as MR12 screw that , i want to see what it will do on pump gas ..
I'm done racing my bike this year .. I have put my bike back to street duty till the Fall air gets here .. It just to damn hot to stand around in full leathers and bake like a loaf of bread ..
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posted May 28, 2011 12:13 PM
quote: It just to damn hot to stand around in full leathers and bake like a loaf of bread ..
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posted May 28, 2011 04:59 PM
Thanks for the feed back guys. Its on par with what I'm hearing.
We do a lot of CNC ported heads for the grudge guys and they ain't talking. Your right... they dont tell anyone where they got the head done let alone put our stickers on the bike. LOL Hey, whatever, that's how the game is played.
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posted May 28, 2011 05:15 PM
Hey smokin? U wanna sell those 47 tb's?
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smokinZX14

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posted May 28, 2011 05:27 PM
quote: Hey smokin? U wanna sell those 47 tb's?
Well the TBs really don't belong to me .. This is a set Roy ( wrong way ) did for me to test .. I'm sure Roy would sell them to you if you asked him ..
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posted May 28, 2011 10:51 PM
Edited By: 01smokes on 29 May 2011 07:15
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posted May 31, 2011 05:56 AM
I installed 47's on my 14 last week and I'm going to Sacramento on the 4th.
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posted May 31, 2011 06:32 PM
let us know what it do in that greay azz sac town air..
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posted May 31, 2011 08:04 PM
211 hp should equate to about 156-158 mph for a middleweight rider.
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posted May 31, 2011 09:30 PM
I make only 171whp and my bike bike has been 131 in the 1/8 and 159 in the 1/4 mile ;-)
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posted May 31, 2011 10:11 PM
That is strong HP,just want to ask a stupid question,my 14 makes 175 on the wheel & 141 torque- dynojet,why is your torque 119,is this just a dyno setting?
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01smokes

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posted May 31, 2011 10:17 PM
quote: That is strong HP,just want to ask a stupid question,my 14 makes 175 on the wheel & 141 torque- dynojet,why is your torque 119,is this just a dyno setting?
Now why don't you say what it makes with out spray...
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posted June 01, 2011 03:30 AM
141 torque? That's incredibly high.
And i'm just tryin to help. Lets not get carried away. Cause i've been 145 in the 1/8 LOL
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posted June 01, 2011 04:29 AM
Should I ASSUME that stock pistons and stock crank means no other performance mods?
stock block and or decked? Just want a complete picture .
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posted June 01, 2011 04:50 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 1 Jun 2011 12:51
quote: That is strong HP,just want to ask a stupid question,my 14 makes 175 on the wheel & 141 torque- dynojet,why is your torque 119,is this just a dyno setting?
More like 111 tq on a stock motor bike with a pipe, on pump gas.
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posted June 01, 2011 06:26 AM
No decking of the block. Factory bottom end never been apart. Stock valves, cams, retainers, buckets, no coatings or surface treatments.
It does have adjustable cam gears so the cam timing can be set.
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posted June 01, 2011 10:24 AM
Thanks Jim,
I have a customer for you, Trying to talk him into the TBs also.
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posted June 01, 2011 10:13 PM
Guys I am not bullshitting my 14 has stock motor,full muzzy pipe,filter,pc and flies removed,nothing else.My brothers 14 makes 138 torque & 173 on the wheel with same mods same dynojet.This is why I asked about the torque reading difference.
I will ask our tuner why is his reading different here in South Africa.
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