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FAST Z14


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posted April 12, 2011 05:16 AM        
Yebo,that Kaw 10 will improve,hope the rumours are true about the new 14
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ZX14Mike


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posted April 12, 2011 06:31 AM        
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Brock said they had a 10 to 15 MPH tail wind for the 160 MPH passes on that zx10 ... Just putting it out there ...Make up your own mind ..

\I know for me a 10 to 15 tail wind is worth about 2 to 3 mph.



Dont think I've EVER had a tail wind.......plenty of head winds and cross winds but never a tail wind.......thats good info though !!!

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ZX14Mike


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posted April 12, 2011 06:42 AM        
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SO your comparing the BMW with engine mods to the the new zx10 ? a little more dialing in and tuning time and the KAW is going to be faster yet



Hey Genius........Richard G ran them both STOCK!!!..........not what YOU or I guess it would be "WE" would consider stock but actually stock, that means no engine mods...........please try to keep up......I know its tough with that reading comprehension problem of yours, but give it a shot!!!!

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ZX14Mike


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posted April 12, 2011 06:50 AM        
What MPH did the Zx 10 run without the tailwind?
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JZX


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posted April 12, 2011 07:39 AM        
10 to 15mph is hardly a tail wind. I race plenty of times at Texas motorplex ,a north south track pretty much, and had 30mph tail winds at the back half. My zx12 was always between 148 and 150,calm, head wind or tail wind. The only wind that i had issues with was a crosswind. I didnt hear about anyone else at the manufacturer's cup bragging about how good their bike did with mph.. I think I saw Rickey hoist up a sail at the 1000' mark though..
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posted April 12, 2011 07:47 AM        
My mph was 1-2 mph slow, at 147 on pump gas. Usually high 148, low 149. It was hot, and I put in a bmc air filter as I usually don't run a filter.
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posted April 12, 2011 09:39 AM        
HEY none of the stone stock bikes are going to run any quicker than high nines and thats with a pro rider
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posted April 12, 2011 09:53 AM        
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LOL now that's lame,sounds like the wind came up everytime the new 10 ran a pass,and it died down when the BM ran according to Brock .Smokin a tip, dont believe everyting people tell you,why dont you ask RG to run the new 10 against your 14 seing you are comparing your bike and times against his times, would like to see how far you beat him, just putting it out there.
Brock was talking to Ricky on Face book about the tail wind ..Ricky agreed with Brock about his tail wind being a factor in the MPH ...Why should i not believe Ricky or Brock when it came right from their lips ? My bike Vs Rickys ? well my bike hasn't been stock wheel base for sometime so what would that prove ?
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posted April 12, 2011 10:13 AM        
\I know for me a 10 to 15 tail wind is worth about 2 to 3 mph.


And I think a strong tailwind may help a bigger heavier bike vs a smaller one ???
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smokinZX14


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posted April 12, 2011 10:38 AM        
This is Richard Gadson 3 years ago on a 2008 ZX10 ... Stock wheel base , foot shifting a 08 zx10 running 160 MPH ...Liter bikes have been putting down big MPH for sometime now.. Again MPH doesn't win races ET does ..


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posted April 12, 2011 10:57 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 12 Apr 2011 18:59
We took that video at MIR, but that was a full Super Sport bike...to the best of my knowledge. He was mostly running high 150's....
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posted April 12, 2011 10:58 AM        
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Brock said they had a 10 to 15 MPH tail wind for the 160 MPH passes on that zx10 ... Just putting it out there ...Make up your own mind ..

\I know for me a 10 to 15 tail wind is worth about 2 to 3 mph.



Dont think I've EVER had a tail wind.......plenty of head winds and cross winds but never a tail wind.......thats good info though !!!


I never had any tailwinds either...but some stronge headwinds on the return road.

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posted April 12, 2011 11:08 AM        
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Brock said they had a 10 to 15 MPH tail wind for the 160 MPH passes on that zx10 ... Just putting it out there ...Make up your own mind ..

\I know for me a 10 to 15 tail wind is worth about 2 to 3 mph.



Dont think I've EVER had a tail wind.......plenty of head winds and cross winds but never a tail wind.......thats good info though !!!


I never had any tailwinds either...but some stronge headwinds on the return road.



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posted April 12, 2011 11:13 AM        
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HEY none of the stone stock bikes are going to run any quicker than high nines and thats with a pro rider




of course that don't include the vmaxxx and rocket 3
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posted April 12, 2011 11:15 AM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 12 Apr 2011 19:21
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We took that video at MIR, but that was a full Super Sport bike...to the best of my knowledge. He was mostly running high 150's....
Shane i was watching this 08 zx10 very closely when they came out ..Everybody said the new 08 zx10 was bad assed .. The bike Richard was riding was said to be stock motored , Muzzy pipe and Muzzy tuned , geared Ect .. Not a word about Super Sport engine work that i saw ..Anyway the bike did nothing in SS class , it was just not fast enough .. Their was a lot of hype over that new 08 zx10 just like the new zx10 , and the hype is coming from the same people ..I'm going to set this one out and see what happens down the road , time will tell ..
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posted April 12, 2011 11:26 AM        
I too remeber the hype over the 08 zx 10 and then really nothing special ever came from it. To me the same thing for the bmw, I have yet to see any numbers that are better then any other busa or 14 except Brocks bmw. the bmw is doing nothing in the hands of anyone else.
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posted April 12, 2011 12:23 PM        
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HEY none of the stone stock bikes are going to run any quicker than high nines and thats with a pro rider




of course that don't include the vmaxxx and rocket 3
HA thats why KURT beats em all

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posted April 12, 2011 12:29 PM        
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HEY none of the stone stock bikes are going to run any quicker than high nines and thats with a pro rider




of course that don't include the vmaxxx and rocket 3
HA thats why KURT beats em all
what would you do without kurt?

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posted April 12, 2011 01:55 PM        
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HEY none of the stone stock bikes are going to run any quicker than high nines and thats with a pro rider




of course that don't include the vmaxxx and rocket 3
HA thats why KURT beats em all
what would you do without kurt?

wee
Well for one Imfasttoo would have no nuts to swing on ..
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posted April 12, 2011 02:52 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 12 Apr 2011 22:53
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We took that video at MIR, but that was a full Super Sport bike...to the best of my knowledge. He was mostly running high 150's....
Shane i was watching this 08 zx10 very closely when they came out ..Everybody said the new 08 zx10 was bad assed .. The bike Richard was riding was said to be stock motored , Muzzy pipe and Muzzy tuned , geared Ect .. Not a word about Super Sport engine work that i saw ..Anyway the bike did nothing in SS class , it was just not fast enough .. Their was a lot of hype over that new 08 zx10 just like the new zx10 , and the hype is coming from the same people ..I'm going to set this one out and see what happens down the road , time will tell ..


I agree, lot's of hype. I'm not sure that is the same bike as the stock motor one you are referring to. The one in the vid has a Tsukigi on it. I could swear someone at the track said it had a SS motor in it.

Regardless, it will take awhile for the 10R to catch up to the BMW in the hype department. But it looks like it is headed there.

Now I am waiting to see a new 10R, an S1000, and a Vmax at the local track....that will be hype-a-licious!

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posted April 12, 2011 03:19 PM        Edited By: JZX on 12 Apr 2011 23:25
Smokin is correct about the hype on the 08 zx10. I also.heard the black bike in the vid RG
went 8.80's at 158 was a full SS head. The blue ZX10 that went 8.60@160 I am not sure of. Either way,both of these bikes are stretched which builds their mph earlier, compared to the short times the SWB 11' model is limited to. In other words, I would put money on the fact that if those 08's were stock length,you would not see 160 or 158 mph for that matter. Also, Gadson is 180 suited, 163 ain't no joke being that weight period.
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posted April 12, 2011 03:37 PM        
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Smokin is correct about the hype on the 08 zx10. I also.heard the black bike in the vid RG
went 8.80's at 158 was a full SS head. The blue ZX10 that went 8.60@160 I am not sure of. Either way,both of these bikes are stretched which builds their mph earlier, compared to the short times the SWB 11' model is limited to. In other words, I would put money on the fact that if those 08's were stock length,you would not see 160 or 158 mph for that matter. Also, Gadson is 180 suited, 163 ain't no joke being that weight period.


The bike in the vid is swb.
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posted April 12, 2011 03:38 PM        
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Now I am waiting to see a new 10R, an S1000, and a Vmax at the local track....that will be hype-a-licious!


Yeah, maybe the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, and the ever elusive Kurt will be piloting them.
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posted April 12, 2011 04:33 PM        
HEY GUYS stop all the whining we are all havin fun benchracing and its going to go on forever so get use to it MAY 8th ATCO is having a big grudge racing day so maybe the 10s and BMWs can get together for a shootout ??
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posted April 12, 2011 04:42 PM        
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HEY none of the stone stock bikes are going to run any quicker than high nines and thats with a pro rider




of course that don't include the vmaxxx and rocket 3
HA thats why KURT beats em all
what would you do without kurt?

wee
Well for one Imfasttoo would have no nuts to swing on ..
THE bike would be slow like you guys

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