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posted March 10, 2011 05:59 PM
Clutch time?
Winter broke for a few hours here in Washington last night, a quick ride and a few hard launches revealed a kind of moan from the clutch area. I have an 08 with about 20K of Hard street riding and 100 or so hard passes at the Angleton TX 1/8th mile. Clutch still feels fine under "normal conditions". Ive searched around 14.com on this topic, but still have questions. This is my first clutch job on a motorcycle.
Good brands, is OEM clutch a brand or a Kaw part? Barnett kits are all over ebay..
Tool list? I read to use an impact gun and not to use one on the clutch.
I want a "do it all" clutch for a stock motored, stock length bike.
Should I be buying a billet clutch basket?
Clutch stack height?
Is the clutch cover gasket reuseable?
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eklipse636
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posted March 10, 2011 06:25 PM
Dewayne has a great clutch pack at cycle concepts!
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posted March 10, 2011 06:33 PM
Cycle Concepts ( Phone #1-803-285-8093) "drag pak" is what I would replace it with. They have the best price, and last longer than OEM. The owner will tell you how to install your new clutch pack if you ask.
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Bently
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posted March 10, 2011 06:33 PM
+2 drag pak cycle concepts
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Zone Head
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posted March 10, 2011 06:49 PM
So the "Drag pak" is a good every day bike clutch?
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Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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Bently
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posted March 10, 2011 06:58 PM
Yes, would be very good and out last the stock one IMO.
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icarus
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posted March 10, 2011 07:19 PM
OEM. 350 passes and counting.
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quick6
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posted March 10, 2011 07:22 PM
cycle concepts drag pack are some of the best clutches out. dewane will even set the stack height for you
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quikgix
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posted March 10, 2011 07:47 PM
Cool, I have Dwaynes clutches on the way!
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 11, 2011 04:22 AM
Nothing wrong at all with the dragpack but the same goes for using oem.
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E1000
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posted March 11, 2011 03:17 PM
 Edited By: E1000 on 11 Mar 2011 23:18
i hate to sound like the newbie..i have a oem clutch with brock hd springs and spacers... but is a certain stack height better than another ? how do you know how to set it up at?
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Flame On
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posted March 11, 2011 06:16 PM
I am using the drag pack clutch for daily street riding works great 57 k on ZX14 9 K on new DP clutch speed shift all the time like butter at low or high RPM range.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted March 11, 2011 11:03 PM
quote:
Winter broke for a few hours here in Washington last night, a quick ride and a few hard launches revealed a kind of moan from the clutch area. I have an 08 with about 20K of Hard street riding and 100 or so hard passes at the Angleton TX 1/8th mile. Clutch still feels fine under "normal conditions". Ive searched around 14.com on this topic, but still have questions. This is my first clutch job on a motorcycle.
Good brands, is OEM clutch a brand or a Kaw part? Barnett kits are all over ebay..
Tool list? I read to use an impact gun and not to use one on the clutch.
I want a "do it all" clutch for a stock motored, stock length bike.
Should I be buying a billet clutch basket?
Clutch stack height?
Is the clutch cover gasket reuseable?
Could just be some glazed steels.
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CrotchRocket
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posted March 12, 2011 06:56 AM
quote:
i hate to sound like the newbie..i have a oem clutch with brock hd springs and spacers... but is a certain stack height better than another ? how do you know how to set it up at?
Thats too much...
either 1 or the other...
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posted March 12, 2011 08:42 AM
quote:
quote:
i hate to sound like the newbie..i have a oem clutch with brock hd springs and spacers... but is a certain stack height better than another ? how do you know how to set it up at?
Thats too much...
either 1 or the other...
+1 the bike I just picked up has both as well and one or the other is coming out.
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posted March 12, 2011 11:59 AM
Thank you to all who are using our clutch pak!!
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E1000
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posted March 14, 2011 03:20 PM
ok it's too much is what your saying. ... is it too much for 280hp? what would be the right setup to go with? i call the cycle concept and the guy who picked up the phone said that they will not tell you which setup to go with, that i have to know what i want. if i understood which works better then i could have told him but i don't...
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 14, 2011 04:04 PM
Edited By: kawasakijockey on 15 Mar 2011 00:09
quote:
ok it's too much is what your saying. ... is it too much for 280hp? what would be the right setup to go with? i call the cycle concept and the guy who picked up the phone said that they will not tell you which setup to go with, that i have to know what i want. if i understood which works better then i could have told him but i don't...
Just a standard stack height would be good for you. (2.135-2.150 stack ht) Stack height is extremely critical with certain lockup clutch set-ups, so these have a certain measurement they actually need to be. If you really have 280hp then you really should have a single stage lockup imo.
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2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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E1000
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posted March 15, 2011 10:54 AM
thank you k-jockey. what i have read is that with a lockup that i can no longer ride street because it wud not allow me to down shift.. i have heard of cycle logic, mtc or muzzy for the single stage- at 215lb suited - is a lock up where i should be?
and yes with the 280hp hahaa..
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 15, 2011 03:08 PM
The Cycle Logic is excellent for street use as I have one myself and have ridden with it since 09. Just bought an MTC multistage to try out.
With the power you have the clutches will live a lot longer too. BTW, the Muzzy one is a Cycle Logic.
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Get on the shortbus boys 'cause its time to get schooled.
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1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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Hellmutt
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posted March 16, 2011 02:14 PM
Good read here, I know what I'll be ordering when my OE clutch goes
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delock
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posted August 11, 2011 09:53 AM
Hate to drag up old posts. Would the. Drag pack be good on a street bike with a 300 fat tire kit?
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posted August 11, 2011 12:31 PM
I had a Barnett Kelvar with an xtra plate in a old 83 GS1100E.I hated it.It would release real close to the bar.Couldn't bang second,allways missing shifts.
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posted August 11, 2011 04:15 PM
a streetbike with a 300 fat tire isn't going to hook or go fast... anything is going to work lol
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delock
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posted August 11, 2011 04:41 PM
The bike was built to ride. I'm asking this question because I blew my clutch out last night on a ride. And as for as fast! I have the OSD setup..I still can handle anyone that runs up on me
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