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posted February 27, 2011 03:33 PM
Shori Battery Died
The bike started up fine. The display never read more than 12.8v. I rode about 15 miles and the Shori (lfx18l1-bs12) Battery died. It slowly lost voltage until the bike started cutting back. I cut the bike off and it wouldn't start back. Any Ideas of what my problem may be?
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posted February 27, 2011 03:41 PM
I would first check the terminals & ground maybe they need to be cleaned
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posted February 27, 2011 03:42 PM
Check your connections, including the grounding path.
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posted February 27, 2011 03:43 PM
mine runs at 14.4 volts on display on average
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posted February 27, 2011 03:47 PM
 Edited By: 1badzx12r on 27 Feb 2011 23:48
13.8 volts on 1 and 14.7 on another .. switch regulators and nothing changed .. beats me
i put it off as all the extra goodies on my lower reading bike as the cause ..
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posted February 27, 2011 03:59 PM
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The bike started up fine. The display never read more than 12.8v. I rode about 15 miles and the Shori (lfx18l1-bs12) Battery died.
Is this from first fit?
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posted February 27, 2011 04:07 PM
As I recall, you made enquiries about getting the Shorai quickly.
Was this because the origional battery had packed in?
Sounds like something in the charging system has gone AWOL!
Time for the multimeter.
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posted February 27, 2011 04:38 PM
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Is this from first fit?
Good question!!
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posted February 27, 2011 04:57 PM
I would like to know the details of this as well, I was going to order one of these tomorrow.
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posted February 27, 2011 05:43 PM
Connections are clean and tight. At this piont, I think the problem may be in the charging system as the bike never read over 12.x volts.
The LFX18L1-BS12 is the same as the LFX18A1-BS12 except for the terminals are reversed. This is not a problem because the battery is so small it can be turned around and hooked-up correctly. I need to know what steps to take to check the charging system. Thanks for the replies.
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posted February 27, 2011 05:58 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 28 Feb 2011 01:59
the last charging issue i had was located at the plug under the gas tank .. some how it fried 1 of the terminals on the 3 prong plug and was making a bad connection ..
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posted February 27, 2011 08:56 PM
This is how you check the stator.
At the regulator under the right side cover near the rear, you will find the regulator. There is a plug with 3 yellow wires. Unplug it and with a meter set to the 200V ~ A/C scale, meter the wire coming from the harness, not the regulator. With the bike running at about 4000 rpm, you should read about 51 volts A/C between yellow to yellow. There will be 3 measurements. L1 to L2, L2 to L3 and L1 to L3 That is how to test the stator.
Be sure to have the meter set on A/C and NOT D/C
You can also ohm the stator. The readings should be between 0.1 to 0.5 ohms between yellows. Again there will be three readings. The ohm meter should read infinity to ground from any of the yellows. When you ohm it, the bike should NOT be running.
There is a procedure to check the diodes in the regulator/rectifier unit. The only problem with that is the readings are seldom exactly close to what the book states.
If the readings on the stator appear to be OK, plug it back in and probe the wires with your meter leads until you get a reading. Under load, those 51 volt A/C readings should drop to about 15 volts or so. I mention this because the last bike I worked on, which happened to be a 14, had a bad stator that tested good until it was put under a load, then it failed. That was a biatch to find.
If everything test OK on the stator then it almost certainly is the reg/rectifier unit.
Hope this helps,
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posted February 27, 2011 08:58 PM
By the way, how do you like the Shori battery?
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posted February 28, 2011 04:11 PM
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the last charging issue i had was located at the plug under the gas tank .. some how it fried 1 of the terminals on the 3 prong plug and was making a bad connection ..
Thanks for the info. I'll check it.
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posted February 28, 2011 04:35 PM
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This is how you check the stator.
At the regulator under the right side cover near the rear, you will find the regulator. There is a plug with 3 yellow wires. Unplug it and with a meter set to the 200V ~ A/C scale, meter the wire coming from the harness, not the regulator. With the bike running at about 4000 rpm, you should read about 51 volts A/C between yellow to yellow. There will be 3 measurements. L1 to L2, L2 to L3 and L1 to L3 That is how to test the stator.
Be sure to have the meter set on A/C and NOT D/C
You can also ohm the stator. The readings should be between 0.1 to 0.5 ohms between yellows. Again there will be three readings. The ohm meter should read infinity to ground from any of the yellows. When you ohm it, the bike should NOT be running.
There is a procedure to check the diodes in the regulator/rectifier unit. The only problem with that is the readings are seldom exactly close to what the book states.
If the readings on the stator appear to be OK, plug it back in and probe the wires with your meter leads until you get a reading. Under load, those 51 volt A/C readings should drop to about 15 volts or so. I mention this because the last bike I worked on, which happened to be a 14, had a bad stator that tested good until it was put under a load, then it failed. That was a biatch to find.
If everything test OK on the stator then it almost certainly is the reg/rectifier unit.
Hope this helps,
Tom
Thanks for the info. I will let everyone know how it turns out.
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posted February 28, 2011 04:36 PM
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By the way, how do you like the Shori battery?
Too early to tell.
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posted February 28, 2011 07:05 PM
Suzuki Charging System Failure Recall
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Just a heads up:
"If you’ve bought a Suzuki motorcycle in the past few years, you might want to check out the list for the Japanese company’s latest motorcycle recall. Affecting 73,426 motorcycles from various product lines and model years (2008-2010), Suzuki has discovered a faulty electrical rectifier/regulator in its design that needs replacing.
According to the recall, rectifiers/regulators on bikes built between July 2007 and September 2009 have an inadequate amount of adhesion between the power module and the case, which results in the unit not sufficiently being cooled by its heat sink (affected Suzuki part numbers are: 32800-41F11, 32800-15H10, 32800-05H11, 32800-41G10, 32800-15H00, 32800-18H00, 32800-05G10, 32800-10G10, 32800-05H20, OR 32800-06G01). As a result the unit’s circuit board could warp, and become dislodged from its casing.
Should the rectifier/regulator start malfunctioning because of this condition, the motorcycle would improperly charge its electrical system, likely draining the battery, and possibly causing the motorcycle to stall. Suzuki will notify owners affected by the issue, and a Suzuki distributor will replace the affected part for free. The recall is expected to take place March 2, 2011, the affected models are listed below. Concerned Suzuki owners can contact Suzuki 1-714-996-7040, and as always the NHTSA is available at 1-888-327-4236 or at the safercar.gov website."
Affected Model Affected Model Year
Suzuki / AN400 2008-2009
Suzuki / DL1000 2008-2009
Suzuki / GSF1250 2008-2009
Suzuki / GSX-R600 2008-2009
Suzuki / GSX-R750 2008-2009
Suzuki / GSX1300B 2008
Suzuki / GSX1300R 2008-2010
Suzuki / GSX650F 2008-2009
Suzuki / SFV650 2009-2010
Suzuki / VL800 2008-2010
Suzuki / VLR1800 2008-2009
Suzuki / VZ1500 2009-2010
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