10zx14red
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posted January 15, 2011 10:39 AM
hello new guy here.. quick question
Hey guys just wanna welcome myself to the forums, and say hello.. I'm probably going to be going with the brocks smeg exhaust, and a bazzaz.. My question to u guys is can i install the exhaust without tunning it right alway.. I'm gonna be ordering the exhaust first.. Just wanted to see if that would be ideal or wait to everything together.. I'm stock with a BMC air filter thats it.. I put down 176 to the wheel what kind of gains can be excepted with and without a tune with this setup.. I live in Tampa fl so im pretty much right at sea level as well..
  
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ryn0cer0s
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posted January 15, 2011 11:44 AM
No need to wait for the Bazzaz to install your exhaust. I ran mine for over a week before I got the map from Brock's. (not his fault, I didn't request it until I had already installed my alien head)
The advantage to waiting, is that you only have to remove the fairings once to install both the exhaust and the PCV.
As far as performance, SuperStreetbike magazine has an excellent writeup in the Jan issue comparing 18 exhausts including several from Brock's, although the smeg isnt one of them.
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Brock's Ceramic coated Alien Head full exhaust
PCV, SpeedoHealer, lowered
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gilberjj
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posted January 15, 2011 01:02 PM
I ran my bike with a full exhaust for quite some time without any fuel management (bazzaz, power commander, juice box... etc) without any issues. In fact, all the maps I've ever seen PULL fuel at the high rpms. The largest benefit to getting a fuel management unit is the ability to tune the bike after pulling the flies. Brocks makes a great exhaust, good luck with your purchase.
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10zx14red
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posted January 15, 2011 01:34 PM
okk then.. I just wanted to make sure there wouldn't be no issues with that... Good color choice ryn0cer0s same one i got.. im going to look into that right up as well... thanku guys so much for your support..
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gilberjj
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posted January 15, 2011 03:25 PM
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okk then.. I just wanted to make sure there wouldn't be no issues with that... Good color choice ryn0cer0s same one i got.. im going to look into that right up as well... thanku guys so much for your support..
No problamo. Welcome to the site. You should read the build thread by Shane.... although the pictures are down. Another valuable read for any zx14 owner are the Brocks zx14 diaries.
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Hellmutt
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posted January 15, 2011 05:16 PM
Welcome to the forum, congrats on the purchase, and you'll love Brocks exhaust - check his forum out and you'll see his systems put more consistent power than most others - may as well splurge and get the mapwork done too if i were you, why wait? Your bikes worth it! 
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eklipse636
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posted January 15, 2011 05:17 PM
Welcome!
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Meangreen14
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posted January 15, 2011 05:41 PM
welcome to the site
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bigdtd
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posted January 16, 2011 06:47 AM
 Edited By: bigdtd on 16 Jan 2011 14:48
it will work ok but you will like it better tuned. the brock maps are spot on. I have been running them for 4+ years. i love my smeg!
welcome to the best zx-14 forum by far!
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jetskidave
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posted January 16, 2011 03:51 PM
S-Meg
power commander
Custom map
timing modul
190.61 HP/ 112.6TQ
Broks pipes are the bomb. 2010 with 1500 miles on it.
Add 30 shot.
On NOS 219.85HP/139.66TQ
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2014 ZX14R Flat Black
Akrapovic 4 into 1 exhaust CNC Performance high performance street motor stock bore 14 to 1 CP pistons
CNC ported head, Cams, 48mm Bored throttle bodies, complete blueprinted engine,
10 Over Adams arm, GPR stabilizer, air shifter, quickshifter Guhl reflash ECU with duel maps installed in the ECU.
243hp, 302 hp on Nitrous progessive controller. BST carbon rims
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Hellmutt
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posted January 17, 2011 06:38 AM
My '08 dyno'd almost the same numbers dave........
192.53 hp @ 112.88 ftlb. after Brock mapped it for a PC and BMC along with the SMeg.
his in-house conditions were just over 92 deg F at just under 30 percent humidity when he tuned it.
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10zx14red
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posted January 17, 2011 09:08 AM
Wow those numbers are very impressive u guys are putting out.. I'm definitely going to be going with there map as well.. Are u guys not to fond about the bazzaz or would a power commander be better.. I dont hear much about the bazzaz on hear.. Ive had a few people tell me tho that they are excellent for tunning.. Now i just have to find a place in my area.. There is nothing down here in Tampa..
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10zx14red
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posted January 17, 2011 09:13 AM
I had her dynoed at my dealership where i bought the bike at.. motor sports of Tampa, idk if u guys are familial with this place.. The dyno just showed me my hp numbers. The guy told me to do tq as well is more work... I would of loved to see what kinda tq numbers i was putting out.. oh well.... But i really dont know if thats the best place for me to take it to be tunned at..
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Hellmutt
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posted January 17, 2011 12:23 PM
Edited By: Hellmutt on 17 Jan 2011 20:24
More than likely, yours is around the same as most any bone stocker 14 -- typically put out in the 160-170hp range...........Brocks systems can add anywhere between 20-30hp gains depending on mapping - so yes, you'll be VERY happy
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jetskidave
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posted January 17, 2011 12:30 PM
I have had all of my friends use one dyno.STEDMAN MOTORSPORTS IN MOULTON ALABABA.
My bike has been on the dyno several times with upgrades.....started at 162 now at 191hp
219 on the nos set-up they installed it is way cool the way they mounted the bottles and everything.
It is a duel bottle set-up.
Dave
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2014 ZX14R Flat Black
Akrapovic 4 into 1 exhaust CNC Performance high performance street motor stock bore 14 to 1 CP pistons
CNC ported head, Cams, 48mm Bored throttle bodies, complete blueprinted engine,
10 Over Adams arm, GPR stabilizer, air shifter, quickshifter Guhl reflash ECU with duel maps installed in the ECU.
243hp, 302 hp on Nitrous progessive controller. BST carbon rims
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