Grinner
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posted December 28, 2010 07:54 AM
Fuel spec
Guys ive been trawling up and down through loads of messages, I wonder if anyone can help me.There are not so many turbo 14s over here in Blighty and have been following this forum on and off for ages.....along with the other one.......
I am nearing completion of my turbo project on the 07 zzr 1400 that i bought just over a year ago. I have an 06 as well both same colour meteor silver. Anyway I only have a RRFPR and a map to source and it ll be up and running. Ive been reading the drag race messages with interest would like to have a go!!!
But before that i need to run it , get used to it and make sure she is safe! What fuel spec do you guys normally put in the bikes for use on the road, I mean, what can you get away with, I also want to use it in europe and dont want hassle getting fuel .For the road ill just run it at about 5 or 6psi boost and ill take ignition out above about 7 or so.
Any how if you can give me any info on fuel grade it would be appreciated, I know of the ron conversions so I really would appreciate your help
Many Thanks
  
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Big_T112
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posted December 28, 2010 09:26 AM
I always used C16 on the track but that was with 18 lbs of boost on the 14. I kept it at 10 lbs. on the road and used 100 Octane from the airport. Av gas. I had the 2mm shorter rods and turbo pistons though. I ran the stock Busa with a RRFPR to 12 lbs of boost on 100 Av gas on the street. 8lbs was pushing it on pump gas and depending where you got it from it would detonate
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Grinner
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posted December 28, 2010 10:56 AM
Thanks a bit better spec than my standard motor do you remember what the static compression was with the 2mm shorter rods and turbo pistons?
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Big_T112
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posted December 28, 2010 11:06 AM
around 11:1
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gilberjj
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posted December 28, 2010 06:07 PM
Just use the best/highest octane pump fuel you can find and keep the boost at 6 psi. I've never heard of someone blowing a motor at 6 psi on pump fuel. Goodluck and post pictures.
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oldkawboy
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posted December 28, 2010 06:18 PM
I've got a turbo ZRX and when I beat on it at 12 pounds of boost I run 110 octane, the bike makes more hp using VP Q-16 which is about the same octane as C-16 but is oxygenated.
When running 8 pounds of boost 93 pump gas works fine but I'm not making near the hp as a turbo ZX14.
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Grinner
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posted December 29, 2010 02:37 AM
Thanks so far guys, gilberjj Im wondering ,you say the best fuel, would that be 93 pump gas as oldkawboy says , and is that U.S. RON/MON.......just want to be sure of U.S. specification, I would like to try and use 95 here in U.K. if not then 98 max
I know Guys have had problems on dyno s and that s down to operators but I dont want to take any chances...........
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MJ
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posted December 29, 2010 04:18 AM
Yep a guy who doesn't know what he's doing and what to look for on a turbo bike can hurt them pretty easily on a dyno. Find somebody who actually does turbos on a regular basis. Then cross your fingers lol
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01smokes
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posted December 29, 2010 08:22 PM
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Yep a guy who doesn't know what he's doing and what to look for on a turbo bike can hurt them pretty easily on a dyno. Find somebody who actually does turbos on a regular basis. Then cross your fingers lol
tuning a turbo bike is just just as easy as doing a motor bike, the only diference is if you run it lean for a second that is your ass lol do he tuning on c16 or something get it close and running good and make the switch to pump and keep it fat like in the 11.5-11.7 range
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Grinner
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posted December 30, 2010 03:56 AM
Thanks thats a good bit of advice ,I was going to watch over them and take it really easy and progressively go to wider throttle openings,
Does anyone have a base map I could start with......................please!
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01smokes
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posted December 30, 2010 07:41 AM
What is your set up injector size fuel pressure boost and what not?
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Grinner
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posted December 30, 2010 11:54 AM
Well at this moment in time Its an 07 American import to the UK. standard injectors will be boosting at 6psi. and am considering various RRFPR or may as ive stated somewhere else may modify my FPR (standard) to start at 60psi fuel pressure as another member is doing.....but I guess for safety sake I will obtain A NEW RRFPR any suggestions on that?????
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Big_T112
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posted December 30, 2010 02:46 PM
Use a Bell Engineering FPR BEGI 2025. 6:1 rising rate. They work like a champ and it is waht I had on my 14 turbo. And still run one on the Busa Turbo.
http://www.bellengineering.net/product_info.php?products_id=4
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Grinner
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posted December 31, 2010 02:10 AM
That looks a super little unit.
Thanks ,dont suppose you kept any maps that would be suitable ?
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Big_T112
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posted December 31, 2010 08:41 AM
No actually I switched to a larger fuel rail and aftermarket injectors to get the 390 Rear wheel H.P. I needed. I can't remember if I sold the PC3 to 01 smokes with the kit I had.
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01smokes
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posted December 31, 2010 11:27 AM
No I didn't get the pc3. None of my maps will work on on 725cc injectors and e85.
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Grinner
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posted January 01, 2011 05:17 AM
Thanks anyway Ill try to find one from somewhere
and a Happy new year to one and all
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gilberjj
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posted January 01, 2011 01:10 PM
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Thanks anyway Ill try to find one from somewhere
and a Happy new year to one and all
Grinner: shoot me an email
Gilberjj@gmail.com
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Grinner
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posted January 02, 2011 08:47 AM
done so.....
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