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posted December 25, 2010 11:46 AM
boost controller
I have a stage one turbo on my zx14 from Mr. Turbo and was wondering what are you guys using for a boost controller for that setup?
  
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posted December 25, 2010 12:17 PM
We have an MSBC-1 on a Stage II Busa. It would be suitable for a Stage 1 as well. It really depends on how much boost you intend to run. If not much, you might consider a two stage like an AMS-500.
Boost By Smith can also make up some very reasonably priced multi-stage setups that you could use as well.
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posted December 25, 2010 12:22 PM
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We have an MSBC-1 on a Stage II Busa. It would be suitable for a Stage 1 as well. It really depends on how much boost you intend to run. If not much, you might consider a two stage like an AMS-500.
Boost By Smith can also make up some very reasonably priced multi-stage setups that you could use as well.
Shane
ya a 2 stage will work good for most, people can go fast with a 2 stage if they are set up.
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posted December 25, 2010 12:27 PM
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Here is the MSBC-1 unit that I am referring to:
http://www.exileturbo.com/products/item_details.asp?idProduct=4
We have it set up for shift-based operation (every time you hit the airshifter it goes to the next stage of boost). I have heard that they are not the best for gear-based use (meaning, using the bikes gear position sensor output to set the level of boost). So, if you are just footshifting the bike you may want to look into another product.
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posted December 25, 2010 02:30 PM
I would recommend the AMS1000..time base, gear based,etc..it's much smoother when you can control boost down to a tenth of a pound..
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posted December 25, 2010 02:46 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 25 Dec 2010 23:00
The AMS-1000 is definitely a well-respected controller, full-featured, and found on most of the fastest bikes out there, it seems. I guess that is why it retails for $950.
We are likely to install one when we get the new turbo setup for the Busa. 
Like I say, consider how much boost you intend to run. If you are not going to run more than 10 lbs, I wouldn't be looking for a 5+ stage setup. A waste of money at that power level on a Stage 1 kit, imo. If you are running on pump gas, on the street, you definitely would be wasting your money...again, imo.
Have you asked Mr. Turbo for their recommendation?
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posted December 25, 2010 03:14 PM
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The AMS-1000 is definitely a well-respected controller, full-featured, and found on most of the fastest bikes out there, it seems. I guess that is why it retails for $950.
We are likely to install one when we get the new turbo setup for the Busa.
Like I say, consider how much boost you intend to run. If you are not going to run more than 10 lbs, I wouldn't be looking for a 5+ stage setup. A waste of money at that power level on a Stage 1 kit, imo. If you are running on pump gas, on the street, you definitely would be wasting your money...again, imo.
Have you asked Mr. Turbo for their recommendation?
Shane
+1 the AMS1k is the bad dude on the block, but not needed i think for the power most people make, well maybe if your bike was at SWB or if you do alot of street racing and needed to ramp power really smooth for traction but i think the AMS-500 would do very well for most, it can be ramped up and its a 2 stage controller and each stage can be ramped up so it can be just as smooth.
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posted December 25, 2010 03:22 PM
internal or external gate? using boost pressure to control wastegate or using co2? its nice on the ams-1000 to get the turbo spinning fast and play with timing to get the bike to hook.
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posted December 25, 2010 04:45 PM
So what one is the easier one to work with with the set up from Mr.Turbo single stage and i only drag race it not driven on the street at all.
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posted December 25, 2010 04:48 PM
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So what one is the easier one to work with with the set up from Mr.Turbo single stage and i only drag race it not driven on the street at all.
if money is no concern get the 1k, but how much power are you making and what kind of WB are you running now?
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posted December 25, 2010 06:02 PM
I'm making about 275 and 10-12 over
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posted December 26, 2010 12:55 AM
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I'm making about 275 and 10-12 over
and what is it doing are you fighting wheelies or spinning,
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posted December 26, 2010 03:40 AM
Spinning.
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posted December 26, 2010 05:44 AM
The new hot boost controller is the ams2000 but I think it sells for 1899.00.
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posted December 26, 2010 06:26 AM
I only race the bike 4 weekends out of the year,just want a simple boost controller.
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posted December 26, 2010 06:46 AM
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Spinning.
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posted December 26, 2010 09:12 AM
The MSBC-1 will do just fine. The AMS 1000 is great, but you need to ask yourself is it to much for what I want to do? Im just a weekend racer looking to have fun and Im doing it for half the cost of an AMS 1000. I run 15 lbs of boost at 68 inches with a blow off and controlled by co2 and have no issues. Just my opinion.
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posted December 26, 2010 12:28 PM
Only running 7 pounds of boost. Much involved in installing a ams500?
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posted December 26, 2010 12:45 PM
Ams1000 and 500s routinely pop up on psychobike for cheap. I've seen 1000s for $500-600 and 500s for $250.
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posted December 26, 2010 12:49 PM
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So what one is the easier one to work with with the set up from Mr.Turbo single stage and i only drag race it not driven on the street at all.
If you only race, why not buy a m/t flat slick? That should cure your traction issues
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posted December 26, 2010 12:56 PM
Tried a slick,boost comes up to quick and takes the tire away.
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posted December 26, 2010 12:58 PM
Work on your chassis setup, go with a lighter wastegate spring, and use an AMS-500. 
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posted December 26, 2010 01:26 PM
What are most guys using for gearing setup on a turbo zx14 setup for dragracing only,i seen some with a 39 rear and stock front.
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posted December 26, 2010 02:55 PM
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What are most guys using for gearing setup on a turbo zx14 setup for dragracing only,i seen some with a 39 rear and stock front.
i ran -1 stock rear on my bike but i was only 60" it worked good for me
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posted December 26, 2010 03:39 PM
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Only running 7 pounds of boost. Much involved in installing a ams500?
Not much really .. You will need a lots of vacuum line and wire .. We mounted the controller under the seat and the solenoids where the tool box was .. You will also need a Hobbs switch to turn on the second stage of boost ...We had jesses turbo set to spring ( 5 psi ) out of the hole and then switched to 9 psi down track ..Here is a link to the Hobbs switch ..
http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-BCS-003&Category_Code=BCS
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