posted December 15, 2010 08:10 PM
Any ZX-14 riders/racers using Amsoil? I've been thinking about using it but want to make sure it will not make my clutch slip!
Anyone????
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posted December 15, 2010 08:17 PM
Hey I can answer this one to! but it's not the same answer some others have gave. I hate the stuff and will never run it again. clutch was black in one friday night test and tune which was 20 passes. with mobile one car oil I get over 300 to 400 passes and the clutch looks like new might have to replace one or two fibers.
posted December 16, 2010 06:27 AM
I've been running it in my bike for the past year or so. No problems what so ever. If you buy the motorcycle oil why would you be worried about your clutch slipping?????????????
posted December 16, 2010 07:48 AM
Edited By: RACNRAY on 16 Dec 2010 15:51
Amsoil m/c specific oil is MA1/MA2 spec oil. The "M" specs for m/c (even some auto/diesel oils meet this spec)oils relates to the oil's co-efficient of friction in relation to that oil's affect on the clutch pack.
"MB" oils are the oils MOST likely to allow clutch slippage, and are not recommended for wet clutch engines.
The original "MA-1" spec specified a higher co-effiecient of friction for wet clutch use. The newer "MA-2" spec allows for an even higher level of friction in the clutch pack, further reducing the chance of clutch slippage over the MA-1.
This shows how the additives in the oil are part of the "stew" that ultimately determines the overall performance of that oil.
I have said in the past...if you put some good oil in your skoot and the clutch starts to slip, then you just put some good stuff in there. Keep the oil and fix the clutch. This may not be 100% accurate these days so when i get a skoot in the shop with a slipping clutch i seek to learn of the driving habits of the owner, oil used and how aften it has been changed, clutch adjustments taken care of, etc.
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posted December 16, 2010 09:54 AM
Have been using it since bike came of the dealer's floor in '06. 65,000 miles with no clutch issues at all.
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posted December 16, 2010 12:08 PM
Never made my clutch slip just turned it black after one night, If I keep running it my clutch life would have dropped by more then half.
posted December 16, 2010 04:27 PM
I'm using it as well with excellent results! Give James and tressie a call (I don't have their number handy) they are great people to deal with!
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quote:Hey I can answer this one to! but it's not the same answer some others have gave. I hate the stuff and will never run it again. clutch was black in one friday night test and tune which was 20 passes. with mobile one car oil I get over 300 to 400 passes and the clutch looks like new might have to replace one or two fibers.
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posted December 16, 2010 05:51 PM
Nope, just stock motor nothing changed except the oil. Checked my clutch before the switch and then again after that night. steels and fibers where turning black. went back to the old oil and problem gone. just my expereince but it was bad enough I won't run it if it's free.
posted December 16, 2010 06:12 PM
I had approx 400 passes on my clutch and at least last 80-100 on amsoil. I only have one witness to how those clutches looked. Ask Chad.
I will continue to run amsoil, it's worth the &!
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posted December 17, 2010 06:49 AM
Mine was broke-in with Mobil and have used it ever since, now at 10k miles.........just bought my 1st case of Amsoil - so I'm making the switch........for now anyway........but come spring time if shit goes wrong, I'll definitely post up a verbal bashin' shortly thereafter
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posted December 17, 2010 07:18 AM
Edited By: Hellmutt on 17 Dec 2010 15:19
what would blacken a clutch like that? Heat I'm assuming......
install Brocks spacers and springs kit........problem solved
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posted December 17, 2010 03:29 PM
Well Guys I'm not going to quote everyone, but I think we all know my clutch hand is pretty good considering I get over 400 passes out of a Busa or zx 14 clutch and I did have Brocks springs in the bike I'm talking about. And yes just a simple oil chnage did blacken the fibers in one eve. nothing else changed. for you guys having good luck with it keep using it!. I stick to mobil one. the guy that sold me the amsoil saw my clutch before and after and was surprised to.
quote:Well Guys I'm not going to quote everyone, but I think we all know my clutch hand is pretty good considering I get over 400 passes out of a Busa or zx 14 clutch and I did have Brocks springs in the bike I'm talking about. And yes just a simple oil chnage did blacken the fibers in one eve. nothing else changed. for you guys having good luck with it keep using it!. I stick to mobil one. the guy that sold me the amsoil saw my clutch before and after and was surprised to.
I run Mobil 0w20 and have good results as well! My oil looks clean every time I change the oil even though my clutches are black. I will stick with Mobil 1.
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