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posted December 10, 2010 02:31 AM
008 slick
sorry but where or who sales this slick pre groved or whatever yo call it ...i want it to look dot approves thansk!!!
  
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ninjaboy311
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posted December 10, 2010 04:56 AM
Just get the Shinko Hook-up, which is DOT approved.
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CraigChrist
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posted December 10, 2010 05:54 AM
He probably wants a tire that actually hooks... and doesn't wear out as fast.
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Bently
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posted December 10, 2010 06:27 AM
Hook up flat out hooks and I had 150 passes and 1500 street miles on it and it was still good. another buddy ran his all year and it's still good I'm guessing he has 250 passes on it. the hook up hooks for us while everyone is is having traction issues. Last test and tune it was 48 degrees and no sun and the hook up went 1.41 60fts.
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CraigChrist
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posted December 10, 2010 06:50 AM
must just be a texas and california thing... none of the ones that I've seen or dad has seen hook for shit.
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posted December 10, 2010 07:00 AM
We run 18 psi most days and have went to 16 psi in the cold. bikes where at 64 inches.
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SteddyTeddy
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posted December 10, 2010 07:01 AM
Haven't tried the Hookup but my 008 that is half bald still hooks like crazy. I think Richie's was selling them with and without grooves.
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quick6
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posted December 10, 2010 07:16 AM
i run 21lbs in my hook up and average 1.41-1.43 60s with my hook up, with a best of 1.39 60.
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posted December 10, 2010 12:15 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 10 Dec 2010 20:17
Lot's of people run the hook up with great results...on some very long wheelbase, and high powered machines. I'm saying, much faster riders and faster bikes than stock motored ZX-14's. 
Some people complain that Power Race and Power One don't hook....some people say the Shinko Ultra Soft 003 is garbage. Some people say a M/T will come apart on you.
Name just about any tire, and someone can make it spin, or complain about it. 
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LeonidasZX14
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posted December 10, 2010 02:14 PM
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Lot's of people run the hook up with great results...on some very long wheelbase, and high powered machines. I'm saying, much faster riders and faster bikes than stock motored ZX-14's.
Some people complain that Power Race and Power One don't hook....some people say the Shinko Ultra Soft 003 is garbage. Some people say a M/T will come apart on you.
Name just about any tire, and someone can make it spin, or complain about it.
agreed!!!! Suspension and clutch setup can both cause spin too. I have had bad clutches cause wheel spin pretty bad before.
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tnt
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posted December 10, 2010 08:02 PM
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Lot's of people run the hook up with great results...on some very long wheelbase, and high powered machines. I'm saying, much faster riders and faster bikes than stock motored ZX-14's.
Some people complain that Power Race and Power One don't hook....some people say the Shinko Ultra Soft 003 is garbage. Some people say a M/T will come apart on you.
Name just about any tire, and someone can make it spin, or complain about it.
agreed!!!! Suspension and clutch setup can both cause spin too. I have had bad clutches cause wheel spin pretty bad before.
Lots of people that are a lot faster riders , on a lot longer wheelbase bikes , and a lot faster Busas , oh , I mean grudge bikes , oops I mean real riders , never spin a tire cause they use the Hookup ? My point exactly ! I weigh 150 lbs , my bike is bone stock with oem clutch , and my clutch was fresh when I used the Hookup ! That tire is only good if the track is very well prepped , and a lot of tracks around here skimp on the track prep for bike races ! I switched to the Shinko Slick , and it hooks even on the poorly prepped tracks ! Those looooong bikes that are not really running that much faster than my 5.70s are usually running sliders , and yeah , drag shocks , and personally I hope they all keep using the Non -Hookup drag radial , cause it don't bother me a bit when they blow the tire off !
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posted December 10, 2010 08:08 PM
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That tire is only good if the track is very well prepped , and a lot of tracks around here skimp on the track prep for bike races !
that goes for any tire on a bad track IMHO , that 008 ain't a cure all . i'm on my 1st 008 and on 2 differant tracks... 1 track hook like crazy the other i blew the tire off 4 out of 6 passes ..
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Bently
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posted December 10, 2010 08:30 PM
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Lot's of people run the hook up with great results...on some very long wheelbase, and high powered machines. I'm saying, much faster riders and faster bikes than stock motored ZX-14's.
Some people complain that Power Race and Power One don't hook....some people say the Shinko Ultra Soft 003 is garbage. Some people say a M/T will come apart on you.
Name just about any tire, and someone can make it spin, or complain about it.
agreed!!!! Suspension and clutch setup can both cause spin too. I have had bad clutches cause wheel spin pretty bad before.
Lots of people that are a lot faster riders , on a lot longer wheelbase bikes , and a lot faster Busas , oh , I mean grudge bikes , oops I mean real riders , never spin a tire cause they use the Hookup ? My point exactly ! I weigh 150 lbs , my bike is bone stock with oem clutch , and my clutch was fresh when I used the Hookup ! That tire is only good if the track is very well prepped , and a lot of tracks around here skimp on the track prep for bike races ! I switched to the Shinko Slick , and it hooks even on the poorly prepped tracks ! Those looooong bikes that are not really running that much faster than my 5.70s are usually running sliders , and yeah , drag shocks , and personally I hope they all keep using the Non -Hookup drag radial , cause it don't bother me a bit when they blow the tire off !
No sliders or drag shocks on the bikes I'm talking about and one has been 5.59 to 5.64's. and we can't run the 008 anyway becuase we race in classes that don't allow a slick.
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posted December 11, 2010 04:40 AM
The 008 slick is good for a guy that does test and tune only, no racing.
With that being said, why run one? Sure it hooks, but if you want to run a et race you got to run pro et. That tire dosent give you any any advantage over a flat slick wheelie bar bike.
I personally think these guys spinning with the best street tires out there need to look at chassis setup.
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posted December 11, 2010 05:43 AM
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I personally think these guys spinning with the best street tires out there need to look at chassis setup.
Track. if a dragster with 60inches of tire surface can't hook on a Friday nite . what makes these guys think a 6inch bike tire gonna hook .. heck on most nights a Honda Prius can't hook
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tnt
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posted December 11, 2010 07:05 AM
Well now , looks like I may try another Hookup on my bike , cause the 008 slick don't seem to be necessary now that I am running stock , gearing , and swb , and footshifting ? Not really sure what a swb bike can 60 ft , but I think just a little spin (Hookup) and the less unsprung weight should work for me ! Sunday was my first time at the track in a few months , and the 14 is a blast at swb but I know I can do better than my 1.60 60 , 4.08 330 , 6.07 @ 124 mph ! Couldn't seem to get out without a wheelie so I had to leave soft , and cit seemed like 330ft before I could get wot , and I really feel the Hookup may pick up the mph a bit too? How about chasis setup on a swb bike with stock shock? Can I dial it in , or go ahead and send it off for re-valving ? TNT
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posted December 11, 2010 07:16 AM
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I personally think these guys spinning with the best street tires out there need to look at chassis setup.
Track. if a dragster with 60inches of tire surface can't hook on a Friday nite . what makes these guys think a 6inch bike tire gonna hook .. heck on most nights a Honda Prius can't hook
You can't compare a dragster to a bike at all. been plenty of nights and days where I watched dragsters and super pro cars not hook and all of us bike guys where fine. you have no clue what set up that dragster has in it. Once at a race where I was racing my funny car I was second to last pair out and out of 12 cars not one had made it down the track, I went up and went right down the groove and ran 6.12 at 225. was the track beter for me, nope my clutch was set right for the track conditions. out of 16 cars 3 of us made full runs.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted December 11, 2010 10:46 AM
Just to add on that Bently, I find it funny at my local track that I rarely spin and 60ft consitant 1.380-1.390 and the guys that 60ft 1.60s to 1.70s spin horribly and bitch about the track. Every time my steels get a little warped I start to spin bad. Although my local track sucks I think much has to do with clutches, tire pressure, gearing etc...
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tnt
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posted December 11, 2010 04:41 PM
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Just to add on that Bently, I find it funny at my local track that I rarely spin and 60ft consitant 1.380-1.390 and the guys that 60ft 1.60s to 1.70s spin horribly and bitch about the track. Every time my steels get a little warped I start to spin bad. Although my local track sucks I think much has to do with clutches, tire pressure, gearing etc...
So oo , how many times have your steels been warped ? Is that not an 09 model bike ? At the time I was running the hookup tire , I had just miched the steels ( they were fine) and I put my new oem fibers in , and mounted my Hookup the same day , and was running 16/43 gearing , and the tire hooked a few times then went to shit! I ran the tire at Paris Dragstrip , Dallas Raceway , Kennedale , and Redline Raceway ? Same ol shit ! I also went to 16/48 gearing and it spun so bad I put my 43t back on for the Grudge Nationals at Kennedale and my best times were 5.78 off of 1.41 to 1.43 60s , so I took Wheelies advice , got a 008 slick , put the 48t back on , and bam , 5.7s and 1.40s consistant , and never bitch about spinning the rest of the season ! I will change my steels and fibers before the new season , but I think a new shock or revalve mine is what it's going to take to get the Hookup to bite around here , and for Me to get into the 1.3s too! Maybe these things can even get my 1.4s back since I am running swb again ? I hope my new Hookup can hookup at swb because 5.s are not an option !
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LeonidasZX14
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posted December 11, 2010 05:31 PM
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Just to add on that Bently, I find it funny at my local track that I rarely spin and 60ft consitant 1.380-1.390 and the guys that 60ft 1.60s to 1.70s spin horribly and bitch about the track. Every time my steels get a little warped I start to spin bad. Although my local track sucks I think much has to do with clutches, tire pressure, gearing etc...
So oo , how many times have your steels been warped ? Is that not an 09 model bike ? At the time I was running the hookup tire , I had just miched the steels ( they were fine) and I put my new oem fibers in , and mounted my Hookup the same day , and was running 16/43 gearing , and the tire hooked a few times then went to shit! I ran the tire at Paris Dragstrip , Dallas Raceway , Kennedale , and Redline Raceway ? Same ol shit ! I also went to 16/48 gearing and it spun so bad I put my 43t back on for the Grudge Nationals at Kennedale and my best times were 5.78 off of 1.41 to 1.43 60s , so I took Wheelies advice , got a 008 slick , put the 48t back on , and bam , 5.7s and 1.40s consistant , and never bitch about spinning the rest of the season ! I will change my steels and fibers before the new season , but I think a new shock or revalve mine is what it's going to take to get the Hookup to bite around here , and for Me to get into the 1.3s too! Maybe these things can even get my 1.4s back since I am running swb again ? I hope my new Hookup can hookup at swb because 5.s are not an option !
Yep, 09' model bike! I run a 0w oil which is probably the reason my clutches don't disipate heat the way your 09' does. However, the tire is not the problem and if you spin at short wheelbase god help you. I ran my battleaxe and had 1.490-1.510 short times and that tire blows!!!!!
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eklipse636
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posted December 11, 2010 05:43 PM
Tnt, not doubting your riding abilities, but that left hand controls that just as much as setup
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posted December 11, 2010 06:05 PM
the 008 held 42psi on my SWB booza with some 1.51-1.53
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eklipse636
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posted December 11, 2010 06:50 PM
I'm not doubting the tire dosent hook, I just see it pointless to run unless your a test and tune guy.
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tnt
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posted December 11, 2010 09:00 PM
Edited By: tnt on 12 Dec 2010 05:00
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I'm not doubting the tire dosent hook, I just see it pointless to run unless your a test and tune guy.
008 slick =pointless , but results = , Priceless ! that's why I'm TNT ---Dynomite !
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c-low
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posted December 11, 2010 10:02 PM
anybody got richies number or anyone that can sell me a grooved 008??tried the hook up now i want the 008 which ever gives me the best results is what i will buy from now on especially if i can get a grooved 008 i run tnt and grudge not classes and plus people my way no nothing about a grooved 008 if it hooks 95 percent of the time in the street and i can get it grooved im sold
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