dakota9498
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posted December 01, 2010 11:49 AM
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Engine has plenty of power IMO.
Says the guy who rides a 6r.
Screw off. I use to own a 14 before I got my 6r. It's not the Holy Grail of motorcycling like you want to believe. Not everyone rides in a fucking straight line all the time. Anyone can use 300hp bikes when all you have to do is pin the throttle and keep it straight.
Shows how much you know. You won't be missed, I promise.
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CraigChrist
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posted December 01, 2010 02:56 PM
 Edited By: CraigChrist on 1 Dec 2010 22:57
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Engine has plenty of power IMO.
Says the guy who rides a 6r.
Screw off. I use to own a 14 before I got my 6r. It's not the Holy Grail of motorcycling like you want to believe. Not everyone rides in a fucking straight line all the time. Anyone can use 300hp bikes when all you have to do is pin the throttle and keep it straight.
I've got 100 bucks that says you can't use all 160hp that a zx14 makes at the drag strip. Just because you owned a zx14 doesn't mean you could ride it to it's full potential. Shit... I've got a good clutch hand and can't max out it's potential.
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eklipse636
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posted December 01, 2010 03:58 PM
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Engine has plenty of power IMO.
Says the guy who rides a 6r.
Screw off. I use to own a 14 before I got my 6r. It's not the Holy Grail of motorcycling like you want to believe. Not everyone rides in a fucking straight line all the time. Anyone can use 300hp bikes when all you have to do is pin the throttle and keep it straight.
Shows how much you know. You won't be missed, I promise.
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tonyferland
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posted December 01, 2010 04:26 PM
2012 IS THE YEAR!!!! We will just have to wait and see what they change.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted December 01, 2010 04:31 PM
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Engine has plenty of power IMO.
Says the guy who rides a 6r.
Screw off. I use to own a 14 before I got my 6r. It's not the Holy Grail of motorcycling like you want to believe. Not everyone rides in a fucking straight line all the time. Anyone can use 300hp bikes when all you have to do is pin the throttle and keep it straight.
What a cock!!!! Riding a 300HP bike is easy??? Funny stuff!!
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01smokes
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posted December 01, 2010 04:52 PM
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Engine has plenty of power IMO.
Says the guy who rides a 6r.
Screw off. I use to own a 14 before I got my 6r. It's not the Holy Grail of motorcycling like you want to believe. Not everyone rides in a fucking straight line all the time. Anyone can use 300hp bikes when all you have to do is pin the throttle and keep it straight.
I just so happen to have a 330hp zx14 you can ride if you think your balls have dropped, its 60" long WITH NO BOOST CONTROLLER!!!!!!! but that wont make a difference for you im sure, because its SO easy to twist the gas and press a button to shift right??
Have you ever been on a bike that traps in the 160s on 1 wheel and your in and out of the gas trying not to loop it out??? Its not as easy as it looks.
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SteveWFL
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posted December 01, 2010 06:05 PM
2012 will be the year!
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ZX14Mike
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posted December 01, 2010 09:06 PM
I'd be happy with 1450cc and 220 RWHP...............although I'd definately be ALOT happier with 1700cc 260 RWHP and less weight 
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SteveWFL
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posted December 01, 2010 10:11 PM
BMW is rolling out 1600 CC's for 2011, since Kawi isn't doing much against their litre bike maybe they'll note that one
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01smokes
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posted December 01, 2010 10:17 PM
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BMW is rolling out 1600 CC's for 2011, since Kawi isn't doing much against their litre bike maybe they'll note that one
my KOW and my BOOZA will hammer any BMW around these parts... it looks like BMW is the one that needs to go back to the drawing boards....
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RICH CRAFT 1
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posted December 02, 2010 08:59 AM
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twin spar frame
symmetrical ports on all 4 intakes
10.0" intake tract length
1.95 sq. in MCSA
5.2 deg int port taper
50mm throttle bodies
36mm/31mm valves
30mm intake buckets
28mm exhaust buckets
89mm bore
62mm stroke (1543cc)
1.75" x 17" primary tubes
separate crank case and cylinder block
variable cam timing
rs232 port on ecu
off road software for tuning
Aerodynamic tail section
total control of airflow threw the bike around the engine
lightweight head lamp assemblies
Ram air intake system with 7 deg divergence
Keep in mind that IF a new zx14 was coming out in 2012  it would be in the tooling production stages right now.
So this thread is really about 1-2 years too late.
yeah what he said. The thing is that Kaw seems to be bragging about keeping the 14 motor narrow? Who road races a 14?.The thing is if they would've put a quarter each more meat in between each cylinder making the motor three quarters of an inch wider and move the transmission a quarter inch away from the crank it would've made all the difference in the world. You're always hearing about some busa seting a world record then you find out their 2000cc. Kaw needs To give us a break. The fact is this! why should I go down and buy a new 14 when it's the same old game. Not that it's not good it's great. But new plastic won't do it for me. And for the guys that like to wander out into the deep water the sharks are big! I think Kaw knows what they're doing with Holden the limits on the motor so they can sell bigger ones in the future? And I understand puting millions of dollars in R&D to have the federal government say "you can't sell that bike here". but as they're doing with the 10 they could give us something to work with. Ken
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Y2KZX12R
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posted December 02, 2010 01:11 PM
I agree Ken.
The zx14 sales could have been better if they had designed the bike more after-market friendly.
Give us room for bore, stroke, and big cams!!!
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BrooklynNYZX12
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posted December 02, 2010 05:57 PM
It sad that Kaw people lurk on this board but won't listen to people in regards to making the 14 more aftermarket friendly.Brock told them it was a great bike but the frame design is very limiting.Jim has mentioned the engine not having an ideal bore spacing that makes boring and cylinder sealing an issue,along with seemingly taking a step back with the cylinder head(the 12 has a better flowing head). Kaw has me scratchin my head because yeas ago they thumbed their noses or so it seemed at regulators and they bowed right down to them with the new ZX10..choppin its balls off just like they did with the ZX12...they could have captured lightning in a bottle with a totally unrestricted 12 but they caved in,and they had a chance again with the new ZX10 but caved in again..no balls!! BMW is now the company who thumbs their noses at gov't regs. Fish is right about Kaw.they have no problem exploiting this board for hype(free advertising) but they have the balls to censor us here. We are Kaw friendly and they should be kissin our asses.WHEN WILL THEY WAKE UP?
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smokinZX14
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posted December 02, 2010 06:35 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 3 Dec 2010 02:41
.. Thomas Edison made the first light bulb but it had a problem , it would not burn out .. Thomas Edison said how the hell i'm i going to sell this things if they never burn out .. His biggest problem was coming up with a light bulb that would last 1500 hours so he could sell you a new one .. In order for Kawi to keep you coming back they hold back on all the goodies .. They give us an inch and we buy it , next fews years they give us another inch and again we buy it ..
Have any of you guys kept up with the C14 ? First few years the C14 owners stated their dislikes right here on Bikeland... Low and behold a Gen 2 C14 with all the dislikes removed .. Kawi is reading your dislikes of the zx14 just like they did with the C14 ... I myself have no dislikes for the zx14 .. BUT i would like a few up grades , Bigger engine , more power and some small styling changes ..I'd bet money Kawi has a new zx? in R&D as i type this ... When Kawi feels the zx14 is played out or Zooky is ready to jump to a all new Busa mother Kawi will pull the trigger ..Will that be 2012 ? Well that is the 6 millon dollar question is it not ..
The Guys at Kawi must think us in the US are fucking out of our minds ...I can just hear them now " We gave them crazy Americans a 8 second bike with just a few aftermarket bolt ons and they want MORE ? " Well that would be us crazy Americans , we allways want bigger , faster and off the wall crazy shit .. Now give us what we want and shut the fuck up ..
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Bently
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posted December 02, 2010 07:02 PM
Well smokin hopefully they are not waiting on zook to change the busa because i don't see that any year soon.
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SteveWFL
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posted December 02, 2010 07:10 PM
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Well smokin hopefully they are not waiting on zook to change the busa because i don't see that any year soon.
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this zook isn't selling like the 1st gen busa did either.
rare to see one on the streets.
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ZX14Mike
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posted December 02, 2010 07:19 PM
Jim, I would love to see ALL the changes you outlined but clearly thats wishful thinking................so i'll rephrase the questions what changes do you feel will be the most probable for the next redesign?
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ZX14Mike
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posted December 02, 2010 07:30 PM
I KNOW its been said before but I would love to see Kawasaki build a 1500cc, 225 RWHP Eliminator dragracing bike thats less than 500 pounds with a 67 inch wheelbase that looks mean like the Vmax but actually backs it up on the drapstrip by breaking into the 8's stock...........the 900 Elimiator was awesome back in the day and a 1500 with more than double the horsepower would be an awesome bike.
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fish_antlers
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posted December 02, 2010 08:20 PM
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yes, it will be the year.
know something we don't?
apparently we're to Kawasaki what Wikileaks is to Obama. Proved that with the 2011 10R, Apparently according to most people we've spoken to, you're not anyone in the industry til you've been strong-armed and blackmailed.
I'm pleased to report that after the 10R release, we have finally "arrived" LOL
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ZX14Mike
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posted December 02, 2010 08:33 PM
Nice post Fish
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Y2KZX12R
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posted December 03, 2010 10:30 AM
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Jim, I would love to see ALL the changes you outlined but clearly thats wishful thinking................so i'll rephrase the questions what changes do you feel will be the most probable for the next redesign?
I'll take the 5th
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ThunderCK
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posted December 03, 2010 02:56 PM
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I was told by a very, very good source that 2012 is the year that the ZX-14 gets a overhaul !!!
Well then it obviously was not from Bikeland!
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Big_T112
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posted December 05, 2010 10:37 AM
I work for a car company here in Alabama. We start seeing the next generation of a vehicle 2 years before it hits the production lines. You would be FIRED on the spot for taking a picture of it and if they found out you were talking about it to the public. Most of the time the ones they test are tapped up and have foam under the tape to hide the bodylines. But in those big secret white rooms you go in they have the real deal running test and checking/measuring everything. Plant 1 is getting ready to be re-tooled for the next gen. starting in 2014. So I am sure Kaw does the same. But I think they put most of there devolpement in the 1000 and 600cc class now. It's kind of like the cold war with the big bikes. With new laws and people sue happy I don't see anything but maybe some slight redesign like they did on the Busa (still the same frame) of maybe Bold BNG. We will just have to mod them ourselfs and share the info.
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00Busa
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posted December 06, 2010 11:37 AM
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BMW is rolling out 1600 CC's for 2011, since Kawi isn't doing much against their litre bike maybe they'll note that one
Those bikes are tour bikes only rated at 160hp and weigh a ton ! I don't think Kawi will take note on that at all.
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SteveWFL
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posted December 07, 2010 11:30 AM
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I work for a car company here in Alabama. We start seeing the next generation of a vehicle 2 years before it hits the production lines. You would be FIRED on the spot for taking a picture of it and if they found out you were talking about it to the public. Most of the time the ones they test are tapped up and have foam under the tape to hide the bodylines. But in those big secret white rooms you go in they have the real deal running test and checking/measuring everything. Plant 1 is getting ready to be re-tooled for the next gen. starting in 2014. So I am sure Kaw does the same. But I think they put most of there devolpement in the 1000 and 600cc class now. It's kind of like the cold war with the big bikes. With new laws and people sue happy I don't see anything but maybe some slight redesign like they did on the Busa (still the same frame) of maybe Bold BNG. We will just have to mod them ourselfs and share the info.
same with Toyota in TX and BMW in SC and VW Chattanooga the plant isn't built out yet but a 2 year out car is in their basement room with a sheet on it.
in detroit they're still trying to figure out how to unscrew what they've already put on the streets 
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