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icarus


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posted November 27, 2010 11:59 AM        
What kind of mph could be gained by going from a DA of 1928 feet to a DA of -736?
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posted November 27, 2010 12:09 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 27 Nov 2010 20:09
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Gilberjj, the engine is stock. I may check the valve clearance this winter :-).





hows the valves winter here ..burrrrr
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posted November 27, 2010 12:13 PM        
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What kind of mph could be gained by going from a DA of 1928 feet to a DA of -736?




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I must really suck. DA of -510 and 1.40-1.43 60fts, 3.81 330's, 9.07 et @149. 235 suited. My bike is a turd..




something about like that





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posted November 27, 2010 12:45 PM        
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What kind of mph could be gained by going from a DA of 1928 feet to a DA of -736?
Looking at my runs from July of this year(146mph @ 1800 da) and yesterday(149mph @ -510) I see 3 mph. In the heat of July it is mostly 2000+ days and 144.5 mph. In Jan 09 on a -300 night I mph'd a 152 and 153 at one track and the very next day 100 miles away at Houston Raceway ran 151 and 152's in the same air. Have never done it again. 149.55 is the best I can find this year. But I total out at 765lbs too..
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Shane661


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posted November 27, 2010 01:56 PM        
You really need to get that weight down, it is killing your mph.
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posted November 27, 2010 02:18 PM        
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You really need to get that weight down, it is killing your mph.



thats what i told him .. order the BST's
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posted November 27, 2010 02:19 PM        
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You really need to get that weight down, it is killing your mph.



thats what i told him .. order the BST's


He could shave a lot of weight, and way cheaper than the wheels.

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posted November 27, 2010 02:26 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 27 Nov 2010 22:29
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You really need to get that weight down, it is killing your mph.



thats what i told him .. order the BST's


He could shave a lot of weight, and way cheaper than the wheels.



maybe y'all need to come and weigh in on his scale to calibrate it ..

55lbs= 10mph


i'm ordering a large pizza pie ..
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posted November 27, 2010 02:27 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 27 Nov 2010 22:28
ha he he
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posted November 27, 2010 03:51 PM        
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What kind of mph could be gained by going from a DA of 1928 feet to a DA of -736?


the difference would be about 1MPH it doesn't matter though you still have to make 230 HP to run 161 at 710 pounds regardless of what the DA is. I don't know what MR 12 makes in horsepower I've heard all kinds of stories but it would need to make 15 to 20 hp to get a stock 14 to make 230 HP with ram air. I'm not saying it won't. I had a friend of mine that had a 1000 and he claimed he got 13 hp on the dino that's impressive. But at $25 a gallon think I'll just use the 2 dollar a pound nitrous. Good luck with whatever you're doing. Ken
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kawa74


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posted November 27, 2010 04:51 PM        
What kind of mph could be gained by going from a DA of 1928 feet to a DA of -736?

Pluged it into Racing Calculater, 9.01 @ 152 comes out to 8.77 @ 156.13,and with a 15 to 20 mph tailwind you could get to 160, But it don't mater, you got the timeslips, they look correct for 1/8 times, mid 5.70 you had to run big backend numbers to run 8.80s.

congats, Icarus , you hit on the Golden Mine Shaft conditions,
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posted November 27, 2010 05:15 PM        
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12R numbers from same day, same lane, 155 lb. rider:






I guess the lights were only off when Racheal and Icarus ran...all day??

Shane




why was it so important that the dates, time and track be cut out of pics .
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posted November 27, 2010 05:22 PM        
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Racheal's slips, footshifting on pump. Other bikes out there were running in their normal mph, for great air, range.





Notice the 37-39 mph back halfs. We were running the same gear as Icarus. Probably puts the shift point right around the 1/8th timers...which can give strange mph numbers. Don't hate....congratulate

Shane



ha i see it now if them 12R times are the same day
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posted November 27, 2010 05:26 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Nov 2010 01:28
Those aren't my slips on the 12R. What are you talking about? You can ask here:

http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=13&TID=58804&set_time=

Not sure what are talking about? Dennis rides that bike pretty well, and he is tuning a lock up clutch. He has been racing that bike for years, and his times are pretty darn good for a 12R at 60 or 61". It is the mph that is of interest, as a known bike.

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posted November 27, 2010 05:39 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 28 Nov 2010 01:46
TAKE 1 OF HIS TICKETS AND THE FASTEST TICKET YOU HAVE.

LOOK

zx12r zx14

1.608 1.646
4.068 4.151
6.098 6.177
121.27 119.20
7.866 7.897
9.378 9.364
148.53 mph 158.09


you got 10 mph on him and only gain around 0.0500 .

27 mph back half vs a 39 mph back half
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posted November 27, 2010 05:50 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Nov 2010 01:52
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TAKE 1 OF HIS TICKETS AND THE FASTEST TICKET YOU HAVE.

LOOK

zx12r zx14

1.608 1.646
4.068 4.151
6.098 6.177
121.27 119.20
7.866 7.897
9.378 9.364
148.53 mph 158.09


you got 10 mph on him and only gain around 0.0500 .

27 mph back half vs a 39 mph back half


Again, not sure of what you are talking about? Look at the 1/8th ET? Didn't you read what I said about the 1/8th mph fluctuating (you can also see it in the slips I posted)? Also, that is not the fastest ticket I posted:



Again, I am not sure what you are talking about? That is the first, and only day so far that Racheal has ridden the bike at the dragstrip.

Shane

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posted November 27, 2010 06:02 PM        
what i am telling you is look at your tickets vs the zx12 tickets that are close from the 60fts

your bike is 10 mph faster and running the same ET..


anytime i'm running somebody faster on mph their ET's are faster too.. but thats why we run 2 at a time. like the 153 mph bike passing a 156mph bike by at least 5mph that i posted .. that 156 mph bike was really only running 148mph but the ticket said other wise
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posted November 27, 2010 06:04 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Nov 2010 02:06
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what i am telling you is look at your tickets vs the zx12 tickets that are close from the 60fts

your bike is 10 mph faster and running the same ET..


anytime i'm running somebody faster on mph their ET's are faster too.. but thats why we run 2 at a time. like the 153 mph bike passing a 156mph bike by at least 5mph that i posted .. that 156 mph bike was really only running 148mph but the ticket said other wise


The two tickets you posted for comparison, she was behind by .08 at the 1/8th, but passed on the big end.

I guess you are implying that the lights worked great for the 12R every run, but were off on all of her runs, even though it was the same lane and time of day??

I guess it could be really bad luck....over and over again. We'll know in the spring.

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posted November 27, 2010 06:11 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 28 Nov 2010 02:12
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The two tickets you posted for comparison, she was behind by .08 at the 1/8th, but passed on the big end.

I guess you are implying that the lights worked great for the 12R every run, but were off all of her runs, even though it was the same lane and time of day??

I guess it could be really bad luck....over and over again. We'll know in the spring.





.0211 reation .0522
1.5562 60ft 1.4545
3.9881 330ft 3.8009
5.9074 1/8 et 5.7798
127.73 1/8mph 123.52
7.5765 1000ft 7.5200
9.0305 1/4 mile et 9.0133
153.27 1/4 mph 155.60
.0139 finish margin
WINNER


look at the 330 the slower 153mph bike was almost 0.20 behind and by just being 5 mph faster gain it all back . your bike being 10 mph faster should have out ET that 12r by at least 0.30 but didn't ..
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posted November 27, 2010 06:14 PM        
but Racheal has a future with them R/T'S.. I'VE never seen 5 that good together in 1 day
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posted November 27, 2010 06:18 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Nov 2010 02:22
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your bike being 10 mph faster should have out ET that 12r by at least 0.30 but didn't ..


Look at her slips compared to his a little more closely. How much mph do you think it takes to gain .11 from the 1/8th on? Again, using your logic...the only plausible explanation is that the lights were wrong on only her passes.

At any rate that wasn't her best light that day...she cut this one on a bad pass:



Too bad the run sucked.

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posted November 27, 2010 07:07 PM        
zx12r zx14
1.543 1.558
4.000 4.084
6.033 6.094
121.21 120.14
7.809 7.850
9.324 9.341
148.53 mph 155.81 mph

she had 7 mph and didn't gain nothing on this compare from start to finish.. but she out back half him 27 vs 35 mph but only gained 0.038 from the 1/8th
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posted November 27, 2010 07:11 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Nov 2010 03:15
Dude, you are paper racing the shit out of this...without considering a lot of factors. Like different riders, shifting, etc.. Hell, I see a slip where she had .03 at the 1000, but only .01 at the finish. That could be due to a lousy shift on the big end....who knows. Like I said, I see a slip that shows a .11 gain on the big end...so what is that telling you?

If you think that she is running close to the same mph as that 12R, more power to you.

Like I say, your explanation is that every time she ran the lights were messed up....but only for her. If you believe that, then look for her 146 mph slips in the Spring.

Next time we will strap a GPS to the bike...fair enough?

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posted November 27, 2010 07:25 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Nov 2010 03:30
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zx12r zx14
1.543 1.558
4.000 4.084
6.033 6.094
121.21 120.14
7.809 7.850
9.324 9.341
148.53 mph 155.81 mph

she had 7 mph and didn't gain nothing on this compare from start to finish.. but she out back half him 27 vs 35 mph but only gained 0.038 from the 1/8th


Dude, that was a screwed up run where she held the throttle after launching strong. You really are stretching. In fact, the 12R owner and Crotchrocket can tell you, that should have been a 9.2x....we told her right then! Did you happen to notice the .073 better 60 ft, but .03 slower ET than the 9.31 pass?? Compare all of the slips. Jesus!


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posted November 27, 2010 07:31 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 28 Nov 2010 03:32
fucktard she had 7mph on him and still the same fukking et . i'm not gonna compare all the fukking tickets when i know she didn't run no 10mph faster and not gained at least 2 tenth ..oh wait she got off the gas ..RIGHT .


your nothing but a TROLL .

GO TROLL YOUR BULLSHITT TICKETS ON P.B or LABUSAS ..
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