Big_T112
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posted November 16, 2010 05:34 PM
Yawn!!!!! Valdosta Man. Cup. results
It's like Mike Slowe and Jeramy Teasley single handly killed motorcycle dragracing. I am sure they work hard at it but gosh, let someone else win even if you have to fake a loss, It's good for the sport. You look at the classes and there names are almost always on the winners board in the streetbike stuff. Boring! It was the same in the old AMA dragbike.
  
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posted November 16, 2010 05:42 PM
Yeep. How long will Jeremy teasley do it??
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Big_T112
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posted November 16, 2010 06:24 PM
 Edited By: Big_T112 on 17 Nov 2010 02:25
Now I would have read through the article if it had been you (eklipse636) and anybody else in the finals. Total domination of any sport will kill it. On a much smaller scale back in the old days we had a guy that rode an old KZ1000 LTD and cut a perfect light with a hand clutch and as far as I can remember never lost. Eventually the class died because bikes quit coming. I remember people almost fighting not to get paired up against him. It was bracket racing though. I dialed my trust 8.07 on my brand new then 1981 Honda CB900F Super Sport.
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posted November 16, 2010 07:11 PM
IMO the main reason ama drag racing folded up, I mean come on real street bikes running 191 mph. what average person can go run with that? I mean it's cool to see. I don't think it's who's wining hurting the sport I think it's the rules making most of those classes out of reach for the average guy. But I guess that leaves 8.90 9.50 and street et for average guys huh. Think of the hp it takes a real street bike to run 191 mph. a stock motored busa or 14 with a light rider and a 40 shot will run 165 to 167. I think it's taking every bit of 325 to 350 hp to run that and how long is the motor going to live like that without needing bearnings and a freshen up. not long
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LeonidasZX14
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posted November 16, 2010 08:34 PM
Whatever! If you saw the way Slowe and Teasley rolled at the track you would appreciate them. What about Dunigan and some of the other ballets that have $500k rigs That can't win a race? Teasley and Slower are just avg dudes that know how to ride.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted November 16, 2010 09:07 PM
Go check out the Orient Express semi they roll in. Have they won?
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posted November 16, 2010 09:52 PM
in any kind of racing its all about the guy who has the most many and the most entrys
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eklipse636
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posted November 17, 2010 02:11 AM
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Go check out the Orient Express semi they roll in. Have they won?
Very true.
Teasley and slowe do not have anything fancy for a rig, bit backed by the best in the business.(Adams) and he's a skilled rider.
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Big_T112
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posted November 17, 2010 02:25 AM
I am not talking about stuff. I am talking about it just being the same 2 dudes over and over again. It's boring, when they enter you already know who is going to win the class. I am not taking anything away from them they are great guys.
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posted November 17, 2010 06:11 AM
actually prostreet has been very competitve. Rodney Williford has been winning alot of races and the nos 14 even won a race this year. The 14s have a hold on real street, but the turbo John Dorbin rides has been a threat since it was introduced to the class. in short it is really not that predictable
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posted November 17, 2010 10:59 AM
It sounds like NHRA Pro Stock cars. If you have the money you can go and play only the top two or three engine builders have it figured out and if you have the money you can buy cars and motors from them and play to. And if you don't have it figured out well as Ford Motor Company. They dropped out of Pro Stock like Kawi did from dragracing and ketchup is not easy. Take Harley-Davidson they have the money they went and bought the technology from Heinz . Then NHRA handed them the rulebook and said tell us what you need to win? I think it's funny they build the Harleys out the front door and Suzuki engines out the back door and if you don't have there motor You can't win. I think it's funny that LT come out of nowhere and wins the championship with one of their backdoor motors LOL. Politics at its best. oh and did I mention money$$$$. There is a lot of guys out there that would like to get in the race but it always comes back to money. I hope this country can turn the economy around soon. Ken
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posted November 17, 2010 02:29 PM
Thats the way it is guys...
There are alot of excellent riders out there & alot of excellent motor builders, but not that many excellent Teams...
Next year maybe be a different outcome, we will have to see who the excellent Teams will be next season!!!
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posted November 18, 2010 12:15 AM
Racing is racing... It's all about the cubic dollar. A wise old man once told me "Sometime's it's more important to cut grams than it is pounds" lol.
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posted November 18, 2010 11:07 AM
Sounds to me that the others just need to step it up a bit.
There are bikes at those races well capable of beating or at least giving these guys a run for their money. But usually, it boils down to the riders' skills and the proper chassis/engine tune. Alot of times, a quicker bike will blow the tire off the line or down the track because he wasn't set up correctly.
Fortunately for Slowe/Teasley, they earned a chance to have it all. Don't think for a minute that they went straight to the top. They started at the bottom just like everyone else. You can't fault them for being good drag racers and their abilities to get good sponsors. They are there to win just like everyone else.
John Force just won his 15th Championship. He went years and years without winning a single race. But he worked hard and look where he is today. Also, do you see other teams quitting because they are intimidated by Force? No, it actually makes them strive harder to beat the champ.
In the past 7 years, I've won my fair share of races, 70+. I've seen guys get upset when they find out they have to race me, seen guys panic and red-light, and seen guys get excited to know that they have a chance to take me out. I shake each and every one of them's hand before and after the race, regardless of the outcome. Will I ever throw a race to let someone else win, no. I know I wouldn't want someone giving me a free win without earning it. It makes them better racers. On numerous occasions, even when I've beaten them, they come up to me after the race, ecstatic, saying that they went their quickest ET ever because they knew they had to be on their game to beat me. This makes them better racers, and gives them confidence for the next time they have to race me. Knowing that I've helped a racer get better just by my past accomplishments is just as rewarding to me as a race win.
All I'm saying is that you can't fault someone for winning alot, or because he has sponsors and the budget to build a faster bike. Just take it as an initiative to do better, and you can find the same success.
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posted November 18, 2010 12:07 PM
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Sounds to me that the others just need to step it up a bit.
There are bikes at those races well capable of beating or at least giving these guys a run for their money. But usually, it boils down to the riders' skills and the proper chassis/engine tune. Alot of times, a quicker bike will blow the tire off the line or down the track because he wasn't set up correctly.
Fortunately for Slowe/Teasley, they earned a chance to have it all. Don't think for a minute that they went straight to the top. They started at the bottom just like everyone else. You can't fault them for being good drag racers and their abilities to get good sponsors. They are there to win just like everyone else.
John Force just won his 15th Championship. He went years and years without winning a single race. But he worked hard and look where he is today. Also, do you see other teams quitting because they are intimidated by Force? No, it actually makes them strive harder to beat the champ.
In the past 7 years, I've won my fair share of races, 70+. I've seen guys get upset when they find out they have to race me, seen guys panic and red-light, and seen guys get excited to know that they have a chance to take me out. I shake each and every one of them's hand before and after the race, regardless of the outcome. Will I ever throw a race to let someone else win, no. I know I wouldn't want someone giving me a free win without earning it. It makes them better racers. On numerous occasions, even when I've beaten them, they come up to me after the race, ecstatic, saying that they went their quickest ET ever because they knew they had to be on their game to beat me. This makes them better racers, and gives them confidence for the next time they have to race me. Knowing that I've helped a racer get better just by my past accomplishments is just as rewarding to me as a race win.
All I'm saying is that you can't fault someone for winning alot, or because he has sponsors and the budget to build a faster bike. Just take it as an initiative to do better, and you can find the same success.
Pat you are running brackets classes right ? Bracking racing takes all the money out of the picture ... Hell a 250 ninja with a skilled bracket racer will win a ton of races .. But heads up classes in comes down to money .. I can't build a turbo bike like Chris Jones .. That is a full time Job and a ton of money to field a bike to that level .. While i may have the skills to ride the bike to its fullest i don't have the time or money to do so .. I have looked into running super sport class , super sport is called an entry level class but the cost is still very high to run the bike and payout is for lack of a better word is SHIT .. You need big money behind you to run this type of class .. If your a guy like JT with big skills you can get a free ride like he does and let some one else pay the bills .. Face it 115 pound skilled riders are far and few .. Brock told Jesse " Even if you win you don't win" , the money is too small to pay the bills ..
That is why we have bracket racing so everyone can play .. Hone your skills like Pat and you can win some good cash to help offset your racing hobby .. You are not going to get rich but you will have pleanty of fun ..
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posted November 18, 2010 12:18 PM
I should add i hate bracket racing ... I have done it for many years and won many races .. It just got so old i stopped .. If one more guy had asked me what my dail in was i would have shot them on the spot ..Questions like what is your Dial so i can set my cross over delay , what was your package ? It just made me sick to hear it over and over day in day out ..
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posted November 18, 2010 01:19 PM
Its funny to me that half the people I meet at the races say they only enjoy heads up racing.But then they complain about somebody dominating.Thats why they invented bracket racing
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posted November 18, 2010 03:09 PM
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Its funny to me that half the people I meet at the races say they only enjoy heads up racing.But then they complain about somebody dominating.Thats why they invented bracket racing
Also, funny how I can pay $30 to race on a Saturday bracket race and have a chance to win $400, and then some bikes will pay the same amount to just test and tune (no clocks)instead of entering the race and get a chance to recoup some cash, but doesn't because he doesn't want anyone to see how fast is 8.80 bike will go....and then bitches that it cost $30 to TNT.....go figure.
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posted November 18, 2010 03:25 PM
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Its funny to me that half the people I meet at the races say they only enjoy heads up racing.But then they complain about somebody dominating.Thats why they invented bracket racing
Also, funny how I can pay $30 to race on a Saturday bracket race and have a chance to win $400, and then some bikes will pay the same amount to just test and tune (no clocks)instead of entering the race and get a chance to recoup some cash, but doesn't because he doesn't want anyone to see how fast is 8.80 bike will go....and then bitches that it cost $30 to TNT.....go figure.
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N/T P/T . or an 8.80 bike that can't slow down to run a 9.0 index ..
or better yet .. them heads up guys bestest reason ..i ain't racing him cause he's an asshole and is 0.20 faster than me .. LOL
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