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posted November 10, 2010 04:58 PM
Differences in '06 & '08 heads
I picked up a Muzzy titanium M14 header for my '06 ZX-14 . When I tried to install it I found that the flange on the pipes were too large to fit into the '06 head. After turning those down and getting the header to fit on the head, I find that the header is hitting the front of the oil pan . It looks like I need .400 " for the header to clear the oil pan.
After looking at the Muzzy page , I see the titanium M14 header listed for '08-'10 , but other headers are listed for '06-'10... All of Brocks headers are showing for '06-'09 ...
has anyone looked close enought at the 2 different heads side by side to see if the exhaust ports are cast differently ? Are there any other differences ? I have read that '08 cams have a smaller base circle , that the intake ports are shaped different and that the clean air system has larger openings...
Anyone have any good info ??? I would guess the guys doing CNC work would have some details ...
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posted November 10, 2010 05:07 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 11 Nov 2010 01:10
I have an 08 and 06 head sitting in the floor. Just "eyeballing" the exhaust port castings, they look the same to me.
There was a time that the entire M14 line was listed only for '08 and up. But I had no problem fitting the stainless one to my '07, and Muzzy later changed their website to reflect use on all models.
I didn't think they made an M14 in Ti. I thought all of their Ti headers were the old design. An easy way to tell is if the midpipe is all 2.25", or tapers down to meet the collector.
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posted November 10, 2010 05:19 PM
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I have an 08 and 06 head sitting in the floor. Just "eyeballing" the exhaust port castings, they look the same to me.
There was a time that the entire M14 line was listed only for '08 and up. But I had no problem fitting the stainless one to my '07, and Muzzy later changed their website to reflect use on all models.
yeah , but the titanium one doesn't fit ,,,, how much clearance did you have between the header and the oil pan ?
there is a ProStock M14 that claims to have more ground clearance ...
maybe that is what I ended up with ???
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posted November 10, 2010 05:26 PM
roy why you always jumping out of the frying pan and into the boiling water ..
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posted November 10, 2010 05:26 PM
The Prostock M14 is the sidewinder. I had no clearance issues that I recall...but that has been 2 years ago...
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posted November 10, 2010 05:49 PM
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roy why you always jumping out of the frying pan and into the boiling water ..
'cause I am bored ...and I got a good deal on the header . Well maybe not such a good deal now that I think about it:-(
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posted November 10, 2010 05:51 PM
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roy why you always jumping out of the frying pan and into the boiling water ..
'cause I am bored ...and I got a good deal on the header . Well maybe not such a good deal now that I think about it:-(
nothing a good hammer won't fix ..EHH
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posted November 10, 2010 07:34 PM
prostock m14 is the sidewinder
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posted November 10, 2010 09:07 PM
my M14 fit good on my 06...
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posted November 11, 2010 07:48 AM
Edited By: LAB3 on 11 Nov 2010 15:57
I just looked, Muzzy does make a M14 4/2/1 in Titanium. 2006/2010 part# 1014-00264
did not see a picture to see if the bends are like my stainless M14 (Shanes old system) on my 2007.)
Roy does it have a O2 threaded port? And exit like a standard full system. Not the Sidewinder exit. Muzzy etches what system it is on the ends of the collectors and the inlet of the mid pipe. Clean it and look M14 F/S ZX-14 sounds like to me you have a different Ninja system.
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part# 1014-00048 M14 2008/2010 Pro Stock Series............... does Muzzy open up the exhaust ports
on a Race Engine???
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posted November 11, 2010 09:42 AM
As far as the ports go, they are the same.
The air injection port in the exhaust ports was revised a little but it has no effect on performance etc.
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posted November 11, 2010 12:28 PM
thanks for the info ... I am not sure what I have , except that it is titanium .... It has the correct spacing for the zx14, and the flanges are correct for the studs .... but it must be for a bike with a dry sump ...
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posted November 11, 2010 02:44 PM
Edited By: LAB3 on 11 Nov 2010 22:45
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thanks for the info ... I am not sure what I have , except that it is titanium .... It has the correct spacing for the zx14, and the flanges are correct for the studs .... but it must be for a bike with a dry sump ...
Roy
Roy use some carb cleaner and look for the Muzzy etchings for what system it is.
Look on the inlet of the silencer and on the O.D. of the mid pipe inlet.
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