gilberjj
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posted November 08, 2010 07:00 PM
Anyone ever use nitrous with a turbo kit
So I've lowered my expectations for my turbo kit and I'm only aiming for just under 6 psi. I was wondering if anyone has ever used a small shot of nitrous just for cooling and a little more power. In your opinion, which would be better.
6 psi plus a 15 shot
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turning up the boost just a wee bit more?
Either way, I'll mix in 112 octane race gas
  
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smokinZX14
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posted November 08, 2010 07:05 PM
Turn the boost up to 9 psi and go riding ..
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01smokes
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posted November 08, 2010 07:39 PM
every psi on my bike made 15 hp so i say just turn it up a couple psi
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posted November 08, 2010 09:50 PM
my best friend has an cbr 1000 running 15lbs of boost, and a 30 shot. it seems to love the gas,
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LeonidasZX14
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posted November 09, 2010 06:05 AM
Seems like it would be a nightmare to me. I know a local Guy doing the same thing but IMO to much stuff to go wrong.
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posted November 09, 2010 06:11 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 9 Nov 2010 14:14
Nitrous is known to raise egt. While you may cool the intake charge, I would be more concerned about your combustion temps. If it were such a great option you see less people running $2k intercoolers. Water injection is a safer option.
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gilberjj
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posted November 09, 2010 10:12 AM
I think so few people do it because no class allows for 2 power adders.
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Shane661
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posted November 09, 2010 10:17 AM
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I think so few people do it because no class allows for 2 power adders.
That, and there is a good chance you will blow it up due to the reasons mentioned. There is a blown fuel class in LSR...but everyone uses intercoolers and big turbos.
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posted November 09, 2010 04:27 PM
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So I've lowered my expectations for my turbo kit and I'm only aiming for just under 6 psi. I was wondering if anyone has ever used a small shot of nitrous just for cooling and a little more power. In your opinion, which would be better.
6 psi plus a 15 shot
or
turning up the boost just a wee bit more?
Either way, I'll mix in 112 octane race gas
Why only 6psi? You can run 8 all day on a stock motor on premium pump fuel with a little timing pulled. Some guys run even more. But 8's pretty standard.
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posted November 09, 2010 04:32 PM
have you started putting your turbo kit on yet? I honestly think your over thinking this whole thing lol YOUR MOTOR IS GOING TO BREAK just when is the question.
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gilberjj
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posted November 09, 2010 05:29 PM
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have you started putting your turbo kit on yet? I honestly think your over thinking this whole thing lol YOUR MOTOR IS GOING TO BREAK just when is the question.
haha.... yes, the manifold is on the bike, I tapped the oil feed, and I'm waiting to get the dp and wastegate fabbed up.
And trust me... I know I'm over thinking this whole thing. Then again, what are winters for if not for thinking about bikes?
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posted November 09, 2010 06:43 PM
Yes all the time on the old draw through Mr turbo kits on several old school GSXR's and Bandit 1200's. I had a 25 shot on the backside of the 42 Mikuni carb just to get the old Ray Jay turbo to spool off the line. It really produced some good ET's and it worked well.
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posted November 10, 2010 12:16 AM
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have you started putting your turbo kit on yet? I honestly think your over thinking this whole thing lol YOUR MOTOR IS GOING TO BREAK just when is the question.
I've known quite a few turbo guys that never broke their motors. I think if you tune them right and leave the boost alone they don't have to break. Of course leaving the boost alone and not going wfo for 5 miles straight under the wrong conditions is hard for some guys to resist I know 
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gilberjj
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posted November 10, 2010 01:15 AM
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have you started putting your turbo kit on yet? I honestly think your over thinking this whole thing lol YOUR MOTOR IS GOING TO BREAK just when is the question.
I've known quite a few turbo guys that never broke their motors. I think if you tune them right and leave the boost alone they don't have to break. Of course leaving the boost alone and not going wfo for 5 miles straight under the wrong conditions is hard for some guys to resist I know
what about 4.5 miles???? 
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MJ
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posted November 10, 2010 01:23 AM
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have you started putting your turbo kit on yet? I honestly think your over thinking this whole thing lol YOUR MOTOR IS GOING TO BREAK just when is the question.
I've known quite a few turbo guys that never broke their motors. I think if you tune them right and leave the boost alone they don't have to break. Of course leaving the boost alone and not going wfo for 5 miles straight under the wrong conditions is hard for some guys to resist I know
what about 4.5 miles????
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posted November 10, 2010 04:13 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 10 Nov 2010 12:14
Have you done the math to compare intake temps and hp with a 15 shot, vs. water/alcohol injection at higher boost? Did you decide on not using E85? That would cool intake temps significantly.
Why don't you call RCC? They sell water injection systems, and could probably give you some good insight on what you could expect. 
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posted November 10, 2010 06:19 PM
some funny bikes use both, but its pretty complicated to get it right...
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posted November 10, 2010 09:08 PM
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some funny bikes use both, but its pretty complicated to get it right...
i would think a wet kit wouldn't be all that hard to set up on one...
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