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posted November 01, 2010 03:21 PM
 Edited By: eklipse636 on 1 Nov 2010 23:22
Black ice I'm not saying your timeslip isn't real, just those 60ft and 330' are nowhere near adding up. Compare your numbers to these. I'm 200lbs in boxers (215 suited and bike/rider weights about 715lbs
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smokinZX14
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posted November 01, 2010 03:21 PM
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I Think is very possible! I have cut 1.34s on different tracks many times and thats sitting at 65! Lee weighs around 130lbs and his bike is sitting around 68 now I think he will do it he just got to play with the gearing a little but I think it can be done.
Well i'm about 145 pounds in gear but with the righ gear i may be able to pull it off this winter .. Anyway i'm going to give my best shot to go 1.29.99 ..  lol....
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mathews
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posted November 01, 2010 05:38 PM
So let me get this right,over 800lbs. total weight stock motor going 1.25 60ft.Never in a million years
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posted November 01, 2010 05:41 PM
Maybe you could drop the clutch at super high rpm, get a wicked 60', and then bog it?
I don't know, but at 309 lbs, any of those numbers are good in my book...even if the 60' seems crazy quick. 
Shane
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kaw-rick
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posted November 01, 2010 05:53 PM
ive seen this b4. dont believe everytime slip you see. flukes seen a guy pull a 120 sixty ft on a 11 sec car. yeh right.
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posted November 01, 2010 07:54 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 2 Nov 2010 04:59
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Black ice I'm not saying your timeslip isn't real, just those 60ft and 330' are nowhere near adding up. Compare your numbers to these. I'm 200lbs in boxers (215 suited and bike/rider weights about 715lbs
Why does Wheelie210+lb, Leo130-lb (with lighted bike), and smokin140lb, shane200lb+ etc. pull 1.3 60'?
Compare your time slip to my time slip are apples to oranges, do we have to same map, stack height, clutch springs, spacers, lockup set-up, w.b., launching style, shock, air, FUEL, bike height, riding style, electronics, tuner support etc? When I got my 14 my goal was to run a 6.5 (due to my weight and what people told me I should run.) I went to the track the first few weeks and ran 7s and high 6s. I got the best bolt-on parts and tuner support I could afford.( most of the support was free, thanks Brock, Bryan Snyder, Cycle Logic, Cycle Concepts, Brian and Ryan of Schnitz racing, Bikeland Members, other forums, Don and Chris of Bessemer City Cycles, friends @ the tracks and others). Then, twice a week at the track hot lapping and putting in the work to try different combos (seat time). My e.ts dropped to 6.0s. I asked Brock, Coby Adams, and other respected tuner did they know of anyone my size and stock motor fully dressed bike going 6.0s(I have 6.0 time slips from different tracks if you don’t believe it). The answer was No.( I was happy). I set a new goal of 5.9s and after that I would install a power adder(nitrous). I went to the track with the intent of flipping over or getting a 5.9, because I had to make up for the e/t off the line; the bike was doing all it could do down the track. A lot of times I had to get out of it because I was going to flip over. As the clutches started wearing down the bike would hang the tire and fall right after the 60' mark due to my gearing. When I got my time slip I didn't believe it. I showed a friend the slip and before he could say anything I said, I know it doesn't count if you I can't back it up. Well, I did. I posted about my 1.2 60' on here back then, but now I'm sure you all didn't believe that also.
Edit: A matter of fact don't believe it, due to the fact that so many people know what I can and can't do, if you are near me(upstate SC) with a stock motor N.A. fully dressed true hand clutch anything. Give my big slow ass the break and back tire for a Dollar or 2 in the 1/8. It has a little gas on it now but I'm sure you will run around me anyway, right?
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posted November 01, 2010 08:09 PM
Smokin, sorry for taking up so much of your thread. I didn't intend to.
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posted November 02, 2010 07:24 AM
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Smokin, sorry for taking up so much of your thread. I didn't intend to.
No problems ..No worries ...
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posted November 02, 2010 08:28 AM
Good job on the numbers Smokin....
5.5's are flying.....
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posted November 02, 2010 10:37 AM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 2 Nov 2010 19:01
To: 1. timhays@haysmachineworks.com
Subject: ZX14 60'
Tim,
I am having a debate with friends about if a 300LB rider(me) on a 68" ZX14 can pull off a 1.29 and 1.25 60'(one time 60's not repeatable) with huge gearing 16/XX, tuned single stage lock-up , prefect stack height, springs and spacers, stock-motor tuned to launch hard and stock dressed bike making 201hp on mr9 . Do you think it is in anyway possible? I have the time slips but They keep telling me it can't be done; that the track timer must have been off set or something. Do you think it is in anyway possible?
Thanks for your time,
BLK ICE
"I don’t see why not we have 230 pound riders with our clutch on average bikes running 1.32 60 good times
thank you
tim"
Note: I edited the gearing and put 16/XX for this post on bikeland because I didn't want to show it. If you all know more then this man about 60' times then you all must be right and I am wrong.
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posted November 02, 2010 11:24 AM
All hail the new bikeland king Blk Ice. Bikeland hero.
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posted November 02, 2010 11:31 AM
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To: 1. timhays@haysmachineworks.com
Subject: ZX14 60'
Tim,
I am having a debate with friends about if a 300LB rider(me) on a 68" ZX14 can pull off a 1.29 and 1.25 60'(one time 60's not repeatable) with huge gearing 16/XX, tuned single stage lock-up , prefect stack height, springs and spacers, stock-motor tuned to launch hard and stock dressed bike making 201hp on mr9 . Do you think it is in anyway possible? I have the time slips but They keep telling me it can't be done; that the track timer must have been off set or something. Do you think it is in anyway possible?
Thanks for your time,
BLK ICE
"I don’t see why not we have 230 pound riders with our clutch on average bikes running 1.32 60 good times
thank you
tim"
Note: I edited the gearing and put 16/XX for this post on bikeland because I didn't want to show it. If you all know more then this man about 60' times then you all must be right and I am wrong.
Come on Ice, why did you edit your NON RIDING SONS OF BITCHES comment?
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posted November 02, 2010 12:06 PM
I'll give you the "Hit" for a dollar or 2 on my no 60' footin 06 1000 in the 1/8th. I love to bet.
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posted November 02, 2010 12:21 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 2 Nov 2010 20:24
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quote:
To: 1. timhays@haysmachineworks.com
Subject: ZX14 60'
Tim,
I am having a debate with friends about if a 300LB rider(me) on a 68" ZX14 can pull off a 1.29 and 1.25 60'(one time 60's not repeatable) with huge gearing 16/XX, tuned single stage lock-up , prefect stack height, springs and spacers, stock-motor tuned to launch hard and stock dressed bike making 201hp on mr9 . Do you think it is in anyway possible? I have the time slips but They keep telling me it can't be done; that the track timer must have been off set or something. Do you think it is in anyway possible?
Thanks for your time,
BLK ICE
"I don’t see why not we have 230 pound riders with our clutch on average bikes running 1.32 60 good times
thank you
tim"
Note: I edited the gearing and put 16/XX for this post on bikeland because I didn't want to show it. If you all know more then this man about 60' times then you all must be right and I am wrong.
Come on Ice, why did you edit your NON RIDING SONS OF BITCHES comment?
Because this is not the Smack House; and I really don't mean it. There are some good riders on here that don't agree with my time slip.
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eklipse636
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posted November 02, 2010 12:25 PM
ok, lets say this. your 60' dosent mean SQUAT if your 330' dosent match.
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posted November 02, 2010 12:30 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 2 Nov 2010 21:10
"ok, lets say this. your 60' dosent mean SQUAT if your 330' dosent match."
It means it is what it is.
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posted November 02, 2010 12:31 PM
Is the 1.20 just a 1 time slip, or do you have a stack of them? What's your normal 60'?
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BLK ICE
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posted November 02, 2010 12:46 PM
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I'll give you the "Hit" for a dollar or 2 on my no 60' footin 06 1000 in the 1/8th. I love to bet.
"If you are near me(upstate SC) with a stock motor N.A. fully dressed true hand clutch anything. Give my big slow ass the break and back tire for a Dollar or 2 in the 1/8. It has a little gas on it now but I'm sure you will run around me anyway, right?"
Your bike is not "stock motor N.A. fully dressed true hand clutch anything". Also, you left out the part about the "back tire". But just for you, (if you are near upstate SC) I will do it against your motor (no gas) Hit and back tire. But if you move 1" before I do you pay me .
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posted November 02, 2010 12:50 PM
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Is the 1.20 just a 1 time slip, or do you have a stack of them? What's your normal 60'?
1.2 two times 1.3 only a few time, and normal 1.4s
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eklipse636
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posted November 02, 2010 01:36 PM
So you normally do 1.4's but you have gained .02 in the 60'?
Ok ok I give. Your the FASTEST heavy hitter on the PLANET.
If that's what makes you feel better inside.
FYI, you said you lost mph by adding gear. Why? I went from 16/43 to 16/48 and gained mph? What makes you think adding gear takes away mph?
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posted November 02, 2010 02:23 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 2 Nov 2010 22:31
"So you normally do 1.4's but you have gained .02 in the 60'?"
Yeah.
"Ok ok I give. Your the FASTEST heavy hitter on the PLANET.
If that's what makes you feel better inside."
Yeah.
"FYI, you said you lost mph by adding gear. Why? I went from 16/43 to 16/48 and gained mph? What makes you think adding gear takes away mph?"
I don't know what you are talking about; but FYI, going up on gear can and has made me lose mph.
Example: 16/45 gave me more mph than 16/46 because 16/46 gear change effect was between the e/t beam and the mph beam. 16/45 allowed me to go throw the e/t beam and mph beam without gear change effect. e/t for both were about the same. 16/48 gave me better e/t and mph than16/45 or 16/46 beause the momentum created by the extra t.q. over came the momentum lost during the extra gear change.
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posted November 02, 2010 02:42 PM
So when your cutting your normal 1.40 60fts what's your 330 foot and 1/8th mile time?
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BLK ICE
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posted November 02, 2010 02:53 PM
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So when your cutting your normal 1.40 60fts what's your 330 foot and 1/8th mile time?
6.0s and some low 6.1. depends on conditions(clutch wear, heat etc.) Why?
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posted November 02, 2010 03:06 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 2 Nov 2010 23:09
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To: 1. timhays@haysmachineworks.com
Subject: ZX14 60'
Tim,
I am having a debate with friends about if a 300LB rider(me) on a 68" ZX14 can pull off a 1.29 and 1.25 60'(one time 60's not repeatable) with huge gearing 16/XX, tuned single stage lock-up , prefect stack height, springs and spacers, stock-motor tuned to launch hard and stock dressed bike making 201hp on mr9 . Do you think it is in anyway possible? I have the time slips but They keep telling me it can't be done; that the track timer must have been off set or something. Do you think it is in anyway possible?
Thanks for your time,
BLK ICE
"I don’t see why not we have 230 pound riders with our clutch on average bikes running 1.32 60 good times
thank you
tim"
Note: I edited the gearing and put 16/XX for this post on bikeland because I didn't want to show it. If you all know more then this man about 60' times then you all must be right and I am wrong.
Well i'm beginning to think your hand clutch is as much hot air as your 1.29 60 ft's . i see Tim didn't say 1.29 but 1.32 with a 230lb rider WITH TIMS CLUTCH .
maybe you should ask MTC with the Gen 2 also
THIS as good as R.G, and his 360hp and holding on a stock clutch
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LeonidasZX14
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posted November 02, 2010 03:11 PM
I think that consistant 1.400 at your size and setup are realistic. When you all of a sudden bust out a 1.250 then it just sounds odd. I mean if I went to the track and ran consistant 9.00s and then got a slip with my number on it that had a 7.50 pass I would say to myself hmmmmm? The difference between a 1.400 and a 1.250 is astronomical in terms of drag racing. Stuff like that does'nt just happen IMO.
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