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posted October 31, 2010 10:55 AM
a stock motor will not do it on a streetbike period.
  
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LeonidasZX14
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posted October 31, 2010 11:01 AM
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a stock motor will not do it on a streetbike period.
I agree
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posted October 31, 2010 06:17 PM
Gimme a couple days and I will find a timeslip and prove that 1.20's can be done on a stock motor 14. I have done it twice this year, stock motor stock clutch no gas. But I have a really good chassis set-up and shock.
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posted October 31, 2010 06:37 PM
Well i for one will never say it can't be done .. I have gone 1.34 twice before at 62 inches .. I'm just getting the hang of 68 inches .. I feel that i can still use some more gear .. I'll find out if it will go a 1.29 .. Maybe , maybe not but i'll sure give it a try .. 
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posted October 31, 2010 07:30 PM
We are talking a street tire? I don't mean with a slick
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posted October 31, 2010 08:53 PM
 Edited By: BLK ICE on 1 Nov 2010 06:39
I'll see if I can find one of mine.
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posted October 31, 2010 10:22 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 1 Nov 2010 08:05
stock motor, shinko u-soft, 68", hand clutch, and fully dressed.( no nitrous)
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posted November 01, 2010 01:19 AM
Look at your 330' it's horrible. I don't think that's what we were getting at.1.25 and you run a 5.95??
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posted November 01, 2010 05:44 AM
I agree with eklipse, look at the mph as well, im 230 unsuited and was running 1.41 60s 5.81 1/8s at 119 to 121, 60 dont mean shit if the rest of the track aint going well
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posted November 01, 2010 05:47 AM
nice numbers though lee, id port the head and run better then a 30 lol, good tune and you will be safe, I was running a 40 or a 50 shot on mine with no problems, ran through prolly 40 pounds of nitrous with not an issue just dont get too greedy haha
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LeonidasZX14
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posted November 01, 2010 09:21 AM
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Gimme a couple days and I will find a timeslip and prove that 1.20's can be done on a stock motor 14. I have done it twice this year, stock motor stock clutch no gas. But I have a really good chassis set-up and shock.
Post away. Maybe the guys running 1.250 on stock bikes need to have the 60ft beams checked. Those are like 40ft times.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted November 01, 2010 09:21 AM
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Gimme a couple days and I will find a timeslip and prove that 1.20's can be done on a stock motor 14. I have done it twice this year, stock motor stock clutch no gas. But I have a really good chassis set-up and shock.
Post away. Maybe the guys running 1.250 on stock bikes need to have the 60ft beams checked. Those are like 40ft times.
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posted November 01, 2010 09:27 AM
"Look at your 330' it's horrible. I don't think that's what we were getting at.1.25 and you run a 5.95??"
For a 309lbs suited rider a 3.836 330' and a 5.95 is pretty good, not ("horrible").
Also, a 1.2 60' is what we were getting at."a stock motor will not do it on a streetbike period."
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posted November 01, 2010 09:41 AM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 1 Nov 2010 17:44
Beams were ok for me and everyone else @ the track. I'm just sharing one of my time slips with bikeland members. It is what it is. Maybe when you do it or one of the heros on the forum does it then it will be ok. I have more slips with good 60's 1.29,1.37, etc. I'm not defending anymore. Believe what you want to.
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posted November 01, 2010 10:02 AM
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Well i for one will never say it can't be done .. I have gone 1.34 twice before at 62 inches .. I'm just getting the hang of 68 inches .. I feel that i can still use some more gear .. I'll find out if it will go a 1.29 .. Maybe , maybe not but i'll sure give it a try ..
I look forward to seeing what you will do with more gear. (alot more gear). As I said before, NICE PASS!
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posted November 01, 2010 11:13 AM
I have been doing this 30 years, Your numbers don't add up. The 60ft. timers are wrong. I had a 1.34 60'ft. and went a 5.47 @ 132mph on the 1000 at 68". Prostreet 600 H.P. bikes don't 60 ft. that good. matter of fact my 1428cc GS1100 dragbike with a slick and wheely bar only did a best of 1.26 leaving at 8500 rpm on the 2-step. And it still went 5.60's in the 1/8th mile at 117 mph. I am not bashing you or calling you out. the time slip clearly says you did. I just don't think it's right, the timer I mean. You sure that was not the reaction time on that slip?
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posted November 01, 2010 11:44 AM
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I have been doing this 30 years, Your numbers don't add up. The 60ft. timers are wrong. I had a 1.34 60'ft. and went a 5.47 @ 132mph on the 1000 at 68". Prostreet 600 H.P. bikes don't 60 ft. that good. matter of fact my 1428cc GS1100 dragbike with a slick and wheely bar only did a best of 1.26 leaving at 8500 rpm on the 2-step. And it still went 5.60's in the 1/8th mile at 117 mph. I am not bashing you or calling you out. the time slip clearly says you did. I just don't think it's right, the timer I mean. You sure that was not the reaction time on that slip?
You had a 1.26 60' and only 117mph. Not bashing or calling you out, but your numbers don't add up. Were is your time slip? J/k.
I think they do add up. It doesn't take 600hp off the line to get a 1.2 60'. It does take the right gearing, clutch, wheel base, chassis set-up/shock, and rider combo.
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posted November 01, 2010 12:05 PM
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i see fowl on the bottom of that ticket . at 1 track i go to i can 0.90 60 ft if i leave on the 1st yellow . thinking i had a pro tree
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posted November 01, 2010 12:13 PM
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i see fowl on the bottom of that ticket . at 1 track i go to i can 0.90 60 ft if i leave on the 1st yellow . thinking i had a pro tree
You leave on the 1st yellow.?
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posted November 01, 2010 12:28 PM
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i see fowl on the bottom of that ticket . at 1 track i go to i can 0.90 60 ft if i leave on the 1st yellow . thinking i had a pro tree
You leave on the 1st yellow.?
not on purpose ..but sometimes i don't know what tree we running .500 or.400 . in test and tune .. i was told .400 when it was a .500 or a .500 when it was a .400 .. robert don't really care in test and tune ..but when the race begin i know what tree we running ..
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posted November 01, 2010 01:50 PM
60 ft times are more dependent on power/weight ratio, chasis setup/tuneup and clutch tune..I have quite a few customers that we have helped with the aspects above and they all run real low 1.3x's to 1.2x's 60 ft times..it is possible..some mentioned prostreet bikes don't cut 1.2x short time..well, you are wrong..the average short time in pst is 1.25 sec...we have a pst bike ourselves and I know 98% of all the pst racers that race MIRock and what use to be AMA/Dragbike..we also have some grudge racers that go 1.18-1.21 short times with slick and sliders and they don't make nowhere near what a prostreet bike makes..pst bike 550+ and grudge bike 250-275..why does the grudge bike 60ft better than the prostreet, power to weight ratio is much better with the grudge bike..pst bike/rider comes in around 685-700lbs and grudge bike/rider comes in around 460-470..hope this clears up some of the misconceptions some my have about what is or is not possible..
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posted November 01, 2010 01:58 PM
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60 ft times are more dependent on power/weight ratio, chasis setup/tuneup and clutch tune..I have quite a few customers that we have helped with the aspects above and they all run real low 1.3x's to 1.2x's 60 ft times..it is possible..some mentioned prostreet bikes don't cut 1.2x short time..well, you are wrong..the average short time in pst is 1.25 sec...we have a pst bike ourselves and I know 98% of all the pst racers that race MIRock and what use to be AMA/Dragbike..we also have some grudge racers that go 1.18-1.21 short times with slick and sliders and they don't make nowhere near what a prostreet bike makes..pst bike 550+ and grudge bike 250-275..why does the grudge bike 60ft better than the prostreet, power to weight ratio is much better with the grudge bike..pst bike/rider comes in around 685-700lbs and grudge bike/rider comes in around 460-470..hope this clears up some of the misconceptions some my have about what is or is not possible..
Agreed but everyone is talking about stock motored bikes right? I agree that it is about the power to weight ratio for sure but I just don't see a 300 lb dude with 60ft times in the 1.250 range. Espeacially not on a stock motored bike. I would certainly expect 1.290 to 1.320 on a stock bike at 68" to 70" with a flyweight jockey.
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posted November 01, 2010 02:34 PM
Dusty outweighs you by about 60 lbs on a full weight bike and cuts consistent 1.3's. I could definitely see a 14 with the right set up and a good rider doing high 1.2's.
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posted November 01, 2010 02:44 PM
I Think is very possible! I have cut 1.34s on different tracks many times and thats sitting at 65! Lee weighs around 130lbs and his bike is sitting around 68 now I think he will do it he just got to play with the gearing a little but I think it can be done.
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posted November 01, 2010 02:45 PM
I Think is very possible! I have cut 1.34s on different tracks many times and thats sitting at 65! Lee weighs around 130lbs and his bike is sitting around 68 now I think he will do it he just got to play with the gearing a little but I think it can be done.
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