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posted September 28, 2010 12:45 PM
Are there any aftermarket links that will allow me to raise the rear?
I'm not sure what's out there for aftermarket links.
I'm not lowering, looking for something that allows the rear to be raised slightly.
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posted September 28, 2010 12:54 PM
My soupys links allow for the rear to be raised or lowered. I had it raised a little when I was hitting the twisties a lot. I think they are about $90
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posted September 28, 2010 01:01 PM
I looked those up and the description was from "stock" height to lower.
Riding smaller bikes all season made me wonder if the 14 will benefit from more height in the rear making it more nimble and quicker to steer.
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posted September 28, 2010 02:20 PM
I wonder if the 12r oem links are shorter and will bolt up.
Any insight on that from the 12r knowledgeable folks?
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posted September 28, 2010 02:22 PM
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The 12R links are straight, so they won't be a direct swap.
I would call Doug at Spencers. You only need to subtract like 1/4" on the threaded links...he can probably put you a set together with the required parts, if needed, for the same cost.
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posted September 28, 2010 02:26 PM
Take a set of Adjustable ones from like adams ... Cut and shorten the center adjustment rod and rethread it .. Bang......you have raising links !!
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posted September 28, 2010 02:41 PM
Shane, I will do that, thanks.
Smokin, if I can't find anything applicable for my needs
I will go that route.
I'm hoping that a shorter adjustment rod from another bike/ spec can just be swapped.
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posted September 28, 2010 02:55 PM
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Shane, I will do that, thanks.
Smokin, if I can't find anything applicable for my needs
I will go that route.
I'm hoping that a shorter adjustment rod from another bike/ spec can just be swapped.
Actually Stan, I had a bit of a brain fart. Since you need to have less length, you could even shorten the threaded rods...but I'm 90% sure that they will work as-is.
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posted September 28, 2010 03:11 PM
There should be an easy solution to this.
If I can have it adjustable from stock height and up it would be even better
for playing with geometry changes.
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posted September 28, 2010 03:14 PM
Buying a set and having them shortened a little, if needed, should be simple enough. 
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posted September 28, 2010 03:16 PM
Easy fix! Stretch the bike a little.. When you stretch it you will raise the rear with the stock links.
(sorry had to throw that out there)
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posted September 28, 2010 04:12 PM
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Easy fix! Stretch the bike a little...
Longer wheelbase will result in slower turning,
I have my rear axle all the way forward in the slots of the swingarm.
For a zx14 my bike is plenty capable of turning with the current set up,
I'm just curious how it will respond to a raised rear and maybe benefit from
a little more lean angle.
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posted September 28, 2010 06:05 PM
I have soupys links an u can raise it. I have them and have done it.
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posted September 29, 2010 04:45 AM
Jack her up too much from stock and you'll have wicked tire spin on corner exiting -- be careful with that 
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posted September 29, 2010 05:12 AM
You shouldn't have to change the rear geometry at all. It sounds like you need a new adjustable shock and stiffer spring. If you still wanted it to turn faster after that I would consider lowering it in the triple trees, but this could make it feel twitchy.
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posted September 29, 2010 05:36 PM
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You shouldn't have to change the rear geometry at all. It sounds like you need a new adjustable shock and stiffer spring. If you still wanted it to turn faster after that I would consider lowering it in the triple trees, but this could make it feel twitchy.
I currently have a 6r spring in the 14 and it's slightly stiffer,
and I'm certainly not heavy @ 185 lbs. in full gear.
Changes in geometry is exactly what I want to play with and see if the bike will
benefit from it. The big $$$ rear shock will be last resort for me, the 14 is only a street bike and I certainly feel I've put enough in it so far.
There are actually numerous links for raising the rear on the other bikes,
including the Busa- 1" being the most common I see around.
Lowering the forks through the triples will result in more clearance issues and minimized lean angle. I might actually look into fork extender caps like the ones that are hugely popular for the gixxers. Those and the accordingly raised up rear for some base test rides,
and just slightly raised up rear to begin with.
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posted September 29, 2010 06:08 PM
Stan, I can tell you that stock wheelbase with front lowered 20mm made a big difference in initial turn in, but the big 14 would still push the front , or oversteer when the throttle was turned on even the slightest
I think raising the rear will be the same outcome, just with increased ground clearance.
A proper valved shock will work wonders though, eliminating the torque squat in the rear will likely be the best mod. The shock needs a revalve just as much as the right spring.
The variable steering angle needs to be eliminated.
Unfortunately I never ran an ohlins on mine with stock wheelbase.
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posted September 29, 2010 10:19 PM
My Penske shock has Ride Height adjustment.
I raised the rear 1 3/4" and "lowered" the forks in the triple clamps for more ride height in front too.
My bike turns far better than stock. On sport touring tires.
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posted September 30, 2010 05:58 AM
The ohlins shock also has a ride height adjustment, and remote preload..
Stan, I guess the only decision left is which one? haha
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posted September 30, 2010 03:58 PM
Neither, buddy...
at least not for now.
My 14 was last ridden in May as I strongly considered quiting street riding and just riding track and some dirt too and the big girl just sat around the garage.
I might have changed my mind and I guess I'm trying to spark my love affair with the 14 again but the smaller bikes have had most of my attention for a while now.
Here's me on my 750 trying to go fast at Monticello
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