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posted September 26, 2010 12:16 PM
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Funny stuff.
Sal has consistantly gone 8+mph faster than the owner on that bike. 210mph is what he expected the bike would run even before the bike was finished so the owner's 202.5mph is right in line.
Throw some race fuel, bigger TB's, and slam the bike... I guessing the owner goes 207+mph with Sal around 215mph in the standing mile at full weight, swb, and a bulletproof street motor.
Take the bike to Loring's 1.5 mile with that set-up... 220mph all day. 230mph would require the miracle conditions of the first Loring event.
all this maybe, should of, could of, what if . next time i run an 9.00 maybe if i didn't eat that donut and used race gas i'd run 8.80's
1bad, I believe the purpose in Phantom pointing out the difference in what Sal could have pulled out of the bike vs the owner wasn't to just hype Sal's abilities or piss on the accomplishment of the owner/rider. After all, racing your own bike in itself does get some props any way you slice it. I think the purpose behind him pointing out the difference was so that the casual reader could get a sense of what THEY could accomplish. A true
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Years ago when I was spraying a 30-40 shot I would barely squeak low 200s. Most likely someone who was a "normal sized" person or a "normal guy" not an LSR rider would have fallen short riding my bike, time and again. The purpose of Phantom pointing it out is to demonstrate that a regular guy on a fairly heavy street ZX14 can, and did go over 200.
Who knows, for a regular guy who wants to go 200 it might have some appeal. Of course the bike has more in the bag but again, a regular guy on a near stock weight 14. Put it in perspective, thats all I'm saying.
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posted September 26, 2010 03:15 PM
guys i'm not gonna get in a long debate but forecasting well thats up to the weatherman . fact was sal rode that bike to 202mph not 215mph . maybe next year he'll do 215mph on said bike .but no matter that next time is not this time..
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posted September 26, 2010 03:18 PM
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guys i'm not gonna get in a long debate but forecasting well thats up to the weatherman . fact was sal rode that bike to 202mph not 215mph . maybe next year he'll do 215mph on said bike .but no matter that next time is not this time..
Sal didn't ride the bike at Maxton you fucking fat ass. It was the owner riding it at Maxton...learn to read. 
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posted September 26, 2010 03:27 PM
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guys i'm not gonna get in a long debate but forecasting well thats up to the weatherman . fact was sal rode that bike to 202mph not 215mph . maybe next year he'll do 215mph on said bike .but no matter that next time is not this time..
Sal didn't ride the bike at Maxton you fucking fat ass. It was the owner riding it at Maxton...learn to read.
hey modda fukker i said he rode it to 202mph and isn't that what is wrote
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posted September 26, 2010 03:29 PM
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Sal went 200-201mph on the stage 1 engine... When the owner was running like 191mph.
Guessing Sal would be around 210mph... Pump gas w/44mm TB's
see shane get some fukking glasses before you open your mouth
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posted September 26, 2010 03:30 PM
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Sal went 200-201mph on the stage 1 engine... When the owner was running like 191mph.
see shane get some fukking glasses before you open your mouth
Hey, fat ass...this isn't the Stage 1 engine...
Lay off the Krispy Kremes and you won't have glucose-induced diabetic blindness... 
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posted September 26, 2010 03:34 PM
fukk you shane and take sal with you .. this is roys thread anyways
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posted September 26, 2010 03:35 PM
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fukk you shane and take sal with you .. this is roys thread anyways
Yeah, and I already congratulated Roy...what the hell are you doing here?
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posted September 26, 2010 04:05 PM
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fukk you shane and take sal with you .. this is roys thread anyways
Yeah, and I already congratulated Roy...what the hell are you doing here?
Yes you did congratulated Roy ... But Phantom13 never did ... Phantom13 just come in to rub Sals balls .. He at the very least could have giving Roy a thumbs up ...
Sal is a great rider but what he might or might not do on that bike is truly guess work ..
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posted September 26, 2010 04:36 PM
I didn't work this hard to get into the 200 club to impress mike....
But I hope that other folks out there realize that they can build build their own motors on a budget and still turn out decent numbers (as well as a national record or 2 , and the 200 club to boot) This was with stock head and cams. I still have the stock clutch , oil pan and trans . I even have the stock head bolts in there right now.
And staying on a budget , a spare head was $400 and I hand ported that . that is the next piece to try.
I sill havent convinced myself to spend a grand on cams , just because I am a cheap bastard.....
but a fat, cheap bastard with a record .
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posted September 26, 2010 04:49 PM
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fukk you shane and take sal with you .. this is roys thread anyways
Yeah, and I already congratulated Roy...what the hell are you doing here?
just me coming into roys thread is congrats enough since i honored him with my presents . ain't that right roy . and fukk you again shane ..
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posted September 26, 2010 05:03 PM
yep , 1bad has spare parts .... priced right for cheap bastards....
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posted September 26, 2010 05:45 PM
1bad,
Forgive me if I wasn't clear. This is the ZX-15 (1464cc). Sal rode the bike to 200+mph on gps in the standing mile back when it only had the 1352cc Stage 1 engine. Basically a cleaned up head, degreed stock cams, compression bump, velocity stacks. The best the owner went on that engine was 191+mph at the Miami Mile. Sal is a pro jockey with over 5,500 mile passes, many of which are over 200mph. 39 LSR Speed Records to his credit in every class from 650cc to 2000cc.
The owner is a good rider but has only a couple LSR seasons under his belt and is relatively new to these speeds. There is a learning curve and this all contributes to why Sal is consistantly 8+mph faster than the owner.
They have ran back to back on the stage 1 engine and there was a 12mph difference in the same conditions, and Sal only made one pass on the bike that event the owner was riding it all day.
Now with the ZX-15 the owner went 202.5mph. 11-12mph gain which would require a 45shot of nitrous. These gains are very significant and I for one am very impressed with the owner's performance on his first event with this new engine and fr setting a new personal best and finally breaking 200mph on motor... ON A KAWASAKI. Very few can say that. Going 200mph on motor is the LSR equivilant of an 8 second 1/4 mile pass on motor.
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posted September 26, 2010 06:06 PM
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1bad,
Now with the ZX-15 the owner went 202.5mph. 11-12mph gain which would require a 45shot of nitrous. These gains are very significant and I for one am very impressed with the owner's performance on his first event with this new engine and fr setting a new personal best and finally breaking 200mph on motor... ON A KAWASAKI. Very few can say that. Going 200mph on motor is the LSR equivilant of an 8 second 1/4 mile pass on motor.
congrats but i'm not impressed SORRY . didn't brock's zx14 with stock motor go 200mph at maxton what 5 years ago .. that sales pitch ain't gonna fly on this ole boy .
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posted September 26, 2010 06:09 PM
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yep , 1bad has spare parts .... priced right for cheap bastards....
THANKS
I haven't broke anything lately roy .. but i'm working on it
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posted September 26, 2010 06:41 PM
1bad, the more you post, the worse you look.....
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posted September 26, 2010 07:15 PM
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1bad, the more you post, the worse you look.....
only to a nutt swinger .
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posted September 26, 2010 09:48 PM
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Now with the ZX-15 the owner went 202.5mph. 11-12mph gain which would require a 45shot of nitrous. These gains are very significant and I for one am very impressed with the owner's performance on his first event with this new engine and fr setting a new personal best and finally breaking 200mph on motor... ON A KAWASAKI. Very few can say that. Going 200mph on motor is the LSR equivilant of an 8 second 1/4 mile pass on motor.
congrats but i'm not impressed SORRY . didn't brock's zx14 with stock motor go 200mph at maxton what 5 years ago .. that sales pitch ain't gonna fly on this ole boy .
It wasn't a sales pitch, I'm not selling anything. Ace could sell 1000 of these engine packages and I wouldn't see one red cent from it. I don't own Ace, I do a little freelance wrenching every now and then and I'm part of the race team.
I only gave this info because you seemed to be very confused as to the details on all these quoted/misquoted speeds, I was simply clearing it up and talking a bit of LSR.
You may not be impressed, and that's fine.. You're clearly very unfamiliar with the sport so that's perfectly understandable. When I look at the obvious potential of the bike and compare it to the fastest NA 14's in the sport, I am really impressed with the fact that it is doing so much with such a super conservative build on a pure street set-up. I find it exciting that the ZX-14 is really starting to show signs of major development in LSR, it's been a long time coming. With CNC's 1570, the Ace 1464, the Millholland's two 202+mph 1352's, Roy's 1530... The 14 platform is really starting to mature.
It won't be long until the 14 takes the torch from the 12's and pushes Kawasaki performance to all new levels. Impressed or not, I think everyone here can appreciate that. :twothumbs
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posted September 27, 2010 04:13 AM
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You're clearly very unfamiliar with the sport so that's perfectly understandable.
It won't be long until the 14 takes the torch from the 12's and pushes Kawasaki performance to all new levels.
i'm familiar with LSR . there a class and a record for everybody . and thats fine . but the way i look at it if i can't run 273 mph ain't no sense in starting the motorcycle or paying the entry fee..
i hate to tell you this but the zx12 died back in 2000 when 1st intro and couldn't best the busa .. the busa is the bike to get the torch from ..
this would be the shittz if they would let motorcycles in it http://www.bborr.com/
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posted September 27, 2010 05:52 AM
 BOOM! "If you blow a zx14 motor, you can always get a Busa"
Serveral members here have done the same.
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posted September 27, 2010 07:18 AM
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better yet put a zx14 motor in a busa fairing ..
i always heard it the busa's Aerodynamics that makes it fast
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posted September 27, 2010 07:47 AM
1bad,
Thanks for confirming my assessment on your LSR knowledge.
Btw, I was refering to Kawasaki's torch, not the LSR torch in general. Everyone knows LSR is owned by the Busa. Next in line is the 12 and then the 14 if you look at the record books and run logs.
The 12 never died, it's actually still very much alive and well. Fastest Kawasaki NA, Nitrous, and Turbo records are held by 12's to this day.
The 12 just never beat the Busa in LSR, but neither did the 14 so I guess the 14 died in 2006 according to your perspective?
Thanks again, 1bad...
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posted September 27, 2010 09:35 AM
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when did a zx12 turbo do 230mph or better ..
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posted September 27, 2010 10:10 AM
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when did a zx12 turbo do 230mph or better ..
UK. I believe the number was 246. I think Bear Racing in SA has also run similar numbers.
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posted September 27, 2010 11:03 AM
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when did a zx12 turbo do 230mph or better ..
UK. I believe the number was 246. I think Bear Racing in SA has also run similar numbers.
man thats like when the East Germans won at the Olympics
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