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posted August 07, 2010 07:21 PM
5.6 at 128
starting to get the hang of this bike  got her to a 5.66 at 128 with a 1.39 60ft, the clutch in this bike feels so damn good mind you I way 230 and the adjusted altitude for the night was 3200 ft. lil bit of nos is all us heavy guys need!
  
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posted August 07, 2010 07:30 PM
Nice .....
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posted August 07, 2010 07:49 PM
nice 2
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eklipse636
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posted August 08, 2010 05:20 AM
Good numbers especially at that altitude!! How much you spraying? 80?
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posted August 08, 2010 11:42 AM
50 shot on a spray bar
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madnessracing
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posted August 08, 2010 11:56 AM
Thats Nice! I wonder how fast I will go if I put a 40 dry shot on my bike!
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posted August 08, 2010 12:01 PM
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Thats Nice! I wonder how fast I will go if I put a 40 dry shot on my bike!
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fbmbks
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posted August 08, 2010 12:12 PM
you can spray higher then a 40, i might put a 60 pill in lol add some extra fuel maybe pull a little timing and have fun! got an auto shift box to keep it off the limiter but prolly should have a window switch to shut her down
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LeonidasZX14
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posted August 08, 2010 12:37 PM
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you can spray higher then a 40, i might put a 60 pill in lol add some extra fuel maybe pull a little timing and have fun! got an auto shift box to keep it off the limiter but prolly should have a window switch to shut her down
Let the countdown begin>>> Is your valve train stock?
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fbmbks
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posted August 08, 2010 02:46 PM
yes, their are ppl out there that have sprayed 60 and nvr had a problem, cpl threads down only had a problem at 80 when he hit the limiter. countdown or not its prolly comin to an end of spraying soon if I get my hands no this zx10 that will be a track bike only 
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posted August 08, 2010 03:04 PM
50 with a spray bar for 2 years. never a problem on an all stock motor. ran in the 5.40's in the 1/8th. then built the motor and put a turbo on the 14 and it never went that quick in the 1/8th again. But in the 1/4 it had a hell of a back half.
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kaw-rick
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posted August 08, 2010 04:14 PM
nitrous= bad for people with no clue. personally i love the stuff. Dont blame engine problems on nitrous. ive seen stock engines blow up. get schooled or dont use it.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted August 08, 2010 04:37 PM
Don't blame engine problems on nitrous? Explain that one, thier has been soooo many people on here and on PB that have blown up thier bike spraying more than a 40 shot on a stock motor. Those that have not are running on borrowed time on a stock motor. If NOS does'nt blow motors why stop at an 80 shot? Why would'nt everyone just spray a 150 shot? The stock motor can only handle the shock factor of NOS for so long. IMO
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kaw-rick
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posted August 08, 2010 05:17 PM
Ive sprayed every zx14 we got down here. (no problems). My personal bike had 100 wet shot on a completely stock engine. sprayed since day 1. 4yrs later running fastest times ever. If you cant get away with spraying 50 dry theres something wrong. Its bad maintenance, motor has problems already, getting in the rev limiter, not using good gas, or not adding enough fuel. Anyway believe what you want. leo, try searching on how nos works. b4 you ask why stop at 80shot. A stock engine can only run for so long naturally aspirated also. Guys do your homework.
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Big_T112
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posted August 08, 2010 05:25 PM
Most people don't use a window switch and beat the rod bearings up and then they fail.
You just can't "UP" the spray because then you surpass the mechanical limits of the stock enternal's in the engine. But a Stock engine is over-engineered for strength that's why you can add Nitrous to it and it want break....within moderation. On my first Turbo Busa it had a bone stock motor, made 256 rear wheel H.P. and I rode it to Daytona Bike week and back 9 hours each way. Never a minutes trouble for 20K miles. The 06 ZX14 came home from the dealership and had a dry kit, swingarm and Muzzy sidewinder before it was ever even ridden. Went to the adams spray bar. Dyno tuned it for 50 H.P. and rode it like that for two years with no problems and was at the track twice a week. When we pulled the stock rods out to put in the aftermarket ones the bearings had hardly any wear on them. spray one on the rev limiter from over rev or a missed gear and you WILL have metal to metal contact of the bearing to crank. It's downhill from there. A simple RPM window switch that cuts the spray off at a preset RPM is well worth the money.
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posted August 08, 2010 05:28 PM
I have done my homework and have seen way too many people blow stuff up with small shots let alone your 100 wet. Honestly though why would anybody stop at a 50 or an 80 shot if it is not risky? The name of the game is to go fast so why would anybody only do a small shot if the larger shot is so safe and effective? As far as you spraying a 100 shot for 4 years on a stock motor I am not buying it. I mean a stock motor is designed to handle stock HP and your claiming that your bike has almost 300hp and you have not even spit a shim? If you are spraying a 100 shot and have not hurt anything in 4 years you need to keep going to church my friend because you are one lucky man.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted August 08, 2010 05:33 PM
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Most people don't use a window switch and beat the rod bearings up and then they fail.
You just can't "UP" the spray because then you surpass the mechanical limits of the stock enternal's in the engine. But a Stock engine is over-engineered for strength that's why you can add Nitrous to it and it want break....within moderation. On my first Turbo Busa it had a bone stock motor, made 256 rear wheel H.P. and I rode it to Daytona Bike week and back 9 hours each way. Never a minutes trouble for 20K miles. The 06 ZX14 came home from the dealership and had a dry kit, swingarm and Muzzy sidewinder before it was ever even ridden. Went to the adams spray bar. Dyno tuned it for 50 H.P. and rode it like that for two years with no problems and was at the track twice a week. When we pulled the stock rods out to put in the aftermarket ones the bearings had hardly any wear on them. spray one on the rev limiter from over rev or a missed gear and you WILL have metal to metal contact of the bearing to crank. It's downhill from there. A simple RPM window switch that cuts the spray off at a preset RPM is well worth the money.
I could not agree more with everything that you just said. You said it best when that 1k connecting rod shot out of the block (stock rods can only handle so much HP). I would not hesitate to put a small shot on my bike like a 30 or a 40. I just don't like being so close to the edge with the 50 shot. I fully understand how NOS works but a100 shot on a stock motor for 4 years is a bit much.
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kaw-rick
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posted August 08, 2010 05:39 PM
believe it or not. there are people around here that know the bike well. and god is with me all the way i think. 1 question for ya. do you think spitting shims is caused by the load your spraying? come on grasshopper put it together.
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Big_T112
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posted August 08, 2010 05:44 PM
I would not put 100 on my built motor. If your looking for that much of a power increase on a stock motor get a built motor with lot's of good parts. Mine was maxed out at 50 actually 51 HP. Another thing is you have to have a prog. box to bring it in smooth. that helps it last too. I have a ZX14 engine right now that has a #3 spun rod bearing. It was from spraying on the rev limiter.
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Big_T112
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posted August 08, 2010 05:48 PM
I think it is from a backfire floating a valve. The piston kissed it and there you go. proably bent the stem just a little and thats why it didn't fall down in the cylinder. Lucky. To much kill time on the airshifter can do the same thing
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fbmbks
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posted August 08, 2010 05:55 PM
bikes never been sprayed on the rev limiter (to date) auto shifter has worked flawlessly so far, I will get a window switch for it to make sure it is safe and put a nos mini on it, ive seen zx10s run on a dual dry stage, 20 right outta the hole and a 60 2.5 seconds out and they have weaker valve springs with higher revs im not saying the motor cant blow on nos but there are plenty that have had good results with it, doesnt matter what you do to the motor, stock, built nos or turbo there will always be some with death stories and those who have been lucky and had no problems
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