DrBudgie
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posted August 07, 2010 10:26 AM
Fly Removal
OK! Firstly I know this topic has been dealt with since 2006 so please respond with an understanding of what I 'perceive' to be correct....I have recently purchased a 14ZZR 2008 model and I have become acquainted to the low rev laziness of this bike, is it SAFE to remove the flies? The bike is a standard machine, all I've done is added two "Scorched" slip-on pipes (very popular in South Africa) similar to the "Yoshimura"
A healthy response would be appreciative.
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RACNRAY
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posted August 07, 2010 11:14 AM
 Edited By: RACNRAY on 7 Aug 2010 19:16
YES....remove the flies...it is safe. You will need to utilize a power commander to optimize the air/fuel ratio for best performance. Since the standard fly operation only has a negative affect on power below 6000 rpm's, that is where the air/fuel ratio will be most affected by fly removal.
All scoots benefit from fine tuning the fuel system to achieve the proper air/fuel ratio, so the power commander will benefit thru out the rpm range.
On my 2006 i removed the flies when i had the stock exhaust,a BIG difference was made in torque and acceleration in those lower rpm's. There was a slight leanness noted at cruise that caused a bit of rough runnin, but was not that bad. The 2008 and later 14's are not as lazy as the 06 7 07's, but yours will still benefit.
So do it!!
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chrisdhall
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posted August 07, 2010 11:16 AM
I would recommend a PCIII or PCV with a suitable map. From the charts I've seen the bike will run very lean without it.
I removed the flies on my 09 and fitted the PCV/Autotune + Yoshi slip-ons. With a decent map the torque from 2000 to 4000 rpm is much improved. Actually I'd say the delivery from 2000rpm is vicious!
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posted August 07, 2010 12:07 PM
only remove if you are going to be remapping. Otherwise, leave it alone for now.
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Flame On
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posted August 07, 2010 02:31 PM
Remve those fuckers
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zx14fan
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posted August 07, 2010 02:36 PM
Dont bother you wont get much then you will need a pc.
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Wheelie
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posted August 07, 2010 02:54 PM
have you guys looked at a 08 Brock map at 100% throttle at 3500 rpm?
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Lucky14
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posted August 07, 2010 05:32 PM
quote:
have you guys looked at a 08 Brock map at 100% throttle at 3500 rpm?
wee
No, but 3750 is pretty interesting .........................
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posted August 07, 2010 05:41 PM
does pulling fuel mean that it's running lean?
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eklipse636
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posted August 07, 2010 06:08 PM
quote:
only remove if you are going to be remapping. Otherwise, leave it alone for now.
+1
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DrBudgie
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posted August 07, 2010 10:27 PM
Thanx for the great responses! So a PCIII or PCV would have to be purchased first before the fly removal and I totally agree. Are there any particular differences between a PCIII or PCV or is one slightly better than the other? Secondly, am I able to purchase these directly from their makers without going to some South African importer.
Hey! Flame On! I really like your response pic LOL!!
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BobC
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posted August 07, 2010 11:39 PM
The main difference is that PCV is half the size of PCIII and Autotune plugs into it, you do need a lambda sensor though.
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eklipse636
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posted August 08, 2010 05:19 AM
If no one wants to send you one overseas try www.starracing.com and ask to speak to Reed. I know he ships a lot of stuff overseas to people. Great guy to deal with.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted August 08, 2010 09:41 PM
Pull the flies and enjoy your bike even better 
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