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posted July 12, 2010 03:23 PM
? for guys running on board compressor for air shifter
How large of bottle is needed to make a run if refilled before each pass?
  
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posted July 12, 2010 03:40 PM
I lbs bottle 125 psi
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posted July 12, 2010 03:42 PM
Bently I have a 16oz bottle underneath I believe and I put about 120psi in it and after I make a pass my guage is usually at 100 -105psi And I just hit the compressor to refill to the 120 mark and go at it again.... Not sure if that answers your question
I'm not sure if a smaller bottle would hold or have enough pressure to push the solenoid and cylinder..
Ondre was telling about the problems with the CO2, and I was thinking about going and buying a regulator from Matt on Sunday... Some guys were showing me that they are using braided lines from the regulator to the solenoid.... Looked pretty bullet proof and like a solid setup..
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posted July 12, 2010 03:47 PM
I use nitrogen and no regulator is needed. The only expense was the Nitrogen bottle and the regulator on the bottle. I get roughly 6 months worth of shifts out of a $15 nitrogen refill. I used a 1 pound bottle and got roughly 12 shifts.
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posted July 12, 2010 03:57 PM
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I use nitrogen and no regulator is needed. The only expense was the Nitrogen bottle and the regulator on the bottle. I get roughly 6 months worth of shifts out of a $15 nitrogen refill. I used a 1 pound bottle and got roughly 12 shifts.
Do you ever get any leaks (o-rings going bad)...
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posted July 12, 2010 04:23 PM
Nelson up to this year I would have said my set-up was bullet proof and this year every time I go to the track I have issues.
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posted July 12, 2010 04:24 PM
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I use nitrogen and no regulator is needed. The only expense was the Nitrogen bottle and the regulator on the bottle. I get roughly 6 months worth of shifts out of a $15 nitrogen refill. I used a 1 pound bottle and got roughly 12 shifts.
Can you give us a link to the nitorgen bottle and regulator you are using? I'm interested in this.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted July 12, 2010 04:30 PM
No,
I bought a Helium bottle off of Craigslist and traded in at Praxair for a Nitrogen bottle. I believe they are they same thing but just labeled differently. I paid $50 for the bottle and then bought the regulator from Praxair for $120.00. Any gas supplier should point you in the right direction on the purchase. Email me your contact info and I will send you a picture of my setup. aquinochad at ymail dot com.
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posted July 12, 2010 04:40 PM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 13 Jul 2010 00:42
Get a one pound N20 bottle and regulator .. Full it with co2 or n20 ... I use n20 because i can get it filled anywhere and it only 3 bucks a pound ...
Or a one pound non dot bottle from MRE and get a 9 dollar pump from Wallyworld and gut it and install it in the tail ...
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posted July 12, 2010 04:44 PM
Heres a picture Bently, I really like this setup because it is pretty failsafe however the shifter needs to be refilled after every other pass. It does away with an onboard compressor which are known to fail and it can also be ran with no gauge on the bike because the refulator on the N2O bottle can do it for you.
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Bently
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posted July 12, 2010 05:11 PM
Can you post a picture of your bottle you run on the bike?
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posted July 12, 2010 05:34 PM
As long as you don't leave te bottle turned on at the trailer... Chad knows what I'm talkin about
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posted July 12, 2010 06:44 PM
I really like the c02 setup, it does leak a little bit but I get so many passes out of the bottle and as long as I turn the bottle off at the end of the night I dont loose that much, beats having a compressor
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posted July 12, 2010 07:26 PM
Edited By: Nelson Taylor on 13 Jul 2010 03:30
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Or a one pound non dot bottle from MRE and get a 9 dollar pump from Wallyworld and gut it and install it in the tail ...
Thats my setup real simple and inexpensive.... I dont mind replacing a 9 dollar compressor.... And I havent had to replace mine yet, 4 years. I do keep it lubed and the gear free of any rubbing.
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posted July 13, 2010 04:23 AM
I have the same nitrogen set-up as Chad, only a larger bottle. Lasts about 3/4 of a year or more, and my buddy is a welder and fills it for free. Just top off the pressure after each pass. My air tank is built into my swingarm, and can get 2 passes easy with 125-130 psi, but still top it off after every pass.
Never owned an on board compressor. As nice and convenient as that may be, I've seen way too many times where the compressor failed, or the compressor was left on by accident and busted the gauge or the tubing, and seen often where the compressor would kill the bike battery over time.
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posted July 13, 2010 04:46 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 13 Jul 2010 12:47
compressor with this little baby inline
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120-PSI-Air-Pressure-Switch-Train-Horn-Compressor-/220575174343?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item335b4e0ec7
This 12 volt DC switch will cut a compressor in at 90 psi, and switches off at 120 psi
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LeonidasZX14
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posted July 13, 2010 05:28 AM
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I use nitrogen and no regulator is needed. The only expense was the Nitrogen bottle and the regulator on the bottle. I get roughly 6 months worth of shifts out of a $15 nitrogen refill. I used a 1 pound bottle and got roughly 12 shifts.
Do you ever get any leaks (o-rings going bad)...
Ive never had a leak at all.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted July 13, 2010 05:29 AM
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Can you post a picture of your bottle you run on the bike?
Bently
I use my swingarm to hold air now nut I used a 1 pound bottle from MPS before.
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