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posted June 19, 2010 07:25 PM
had a run with 2 BMWs
well i had a run with 2 BMWs one was stone stock and one was piped and +2 in the rear i was on the gen 2 the 1st race we went from a 2nd gear roll about 65mph and the modded BMW got me by 5 bikes at 170 the next race we went from a 60 roll and he got me by 7 bikes at 185.
Now the stock one we went at it from a 65 roll again and i jumped out on him and stayed out on him they said i had right at 6-7 bikes on him till we shut down i shut it down at about 165
BTW my gen2 is stone stock i wonder what wiil happen with i pipe and a gear it!!!
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posted June 19, 2010 08:34 PM
Any high speed roll on with a liter bike gives up your advantage of much more torque. I can't see giving them more than a 20 mph roll just to take the clutch out of it. You have more cubes they have 100 less pounds and higher first gear and the same HP. If they want to brag go from down low.
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posted June 20, 2010 12:12 AM
ya but we were doing HP races just to see for are selves what would happen, and ya we went from a SLOW roll and i jumped out on him but he ran me down it took him some time to do it but he did come around
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posted June 20, 2010 05:06 AM
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one was piped and +2 in the rear i was on the gen 2
BTW my gen2 is stone stock i wonder what wiil happen with i pipe and a gear it!!!
sounds like you took a knife to a gun fight and got your azz handed to you ..
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posted June 20, 2010 08:00 AM
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one was piped and +2 in the rear i was on the gen 2
BTW my gen2 is stone stock i wonder what wiil happen with i pipe and a gear it!!!
sounds like you took a knife to a gun fight and got your azz handed to you ..
i could have taken a tank to there gun fight and made them look like they were standing still lol
the cool thing about this was the stock one was a demo bike and my friend went and demoed it we went to the BMW dealer and he knew what we were gonna be doing lol and even the dealer was talking shit at 1st about the booza and the 14 lol until we got back and let him know the news lol
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posted June 20, 2010 08:43 AM
I was on the stock BMW. You are off of your assessment against me. We went from 2nd gear at about 65. I was seeing 7500rpms when we hit it. You pulled out immediately and got 3 bikes within a gear change. Then at that point your pull pretty much stopped. You may have been slightly pulling but very hard to tell for sure. I would say 3-4 bikes at most. Being behind I have a better perspective on the race.
BTW, I weigh 80lbs more than 01smokes and look like a grape ape on a bicycle.
Anyhow, the BMW runs well when you get it past 9k but below that it is about the same as any other litre bike. It handles well certainly brakes very well.
We should have had 01smokes race the other rider on the stock BMW, then we could have had more data points that may or may not reflect what the rest of the world is seeing.
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posted June 20, 2010 08:44 AM
And how did my "stock" Gen I do against his BMW ?
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posted June 20, 2010 08:45 AM
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I was on the stock BMW. You are off of your assessment against me. We went from 2nd gear at about 65. I was seeing 7500rpms when we hit it. You pulled out immediately and got 3 bikes within a gear change. Then at that point your pull pretty much stopped. You may have been slightly pulling but very hard to tell for sure. I would say 3-4 bikes at most. Being behind I have a better perspective on the race.
BTW, I weigh 80lbs more than 01smokes and look like a grape ape on a bicycle.
Anyhow, the BMW runs well when you get it past 9k but below that it is about the same as any other litre bike. It handles well certainly brakes very well.
We should have had 01smokes race the other rider on the stock BMW, then we could have had more data points that may or may not reflect what the rest of the world is seeing.
I thought that weight might be a factor. 80 lbs. is a HUGE difference.
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kaw-rick
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posted June 20, 2010 08:48 AM
There was 1 at the dragstrip the other night. Im not impressed. A real good rider also. Never broke in the 9s. Must be a very hard bike to ride. Ill stick to the tq monsters.
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01smokes
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posted June 20, 2010 08:49 AM
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And how did my "stock" Gen I do against his BMW ?
the stock gen 1 with gear and the modded BMW went at it from a 5th gear roll on started about 70 i would guess, the gen1 speedo is off from the gearing. well we went at it and we stayed dead even till about 145-155ish than the BMW started a slow pull and kept pulling
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posted June 20, 2010 08:56 AM
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I was on the stock BMW. You are off of your assessment against me. We went from 2nd gear at about 65. I was seeing 7500rpms when we hit it. You pulled out immediately and got 3 bikes within a gear change. Then at that point your pull pretty much stopped. You may have been slightly pulling but very hard to tell for sure. I would say 3-4 bikes at most. Being behind I have a better perspective on the race.
BTW, I weigh 80lbs more than 01smokes and look like a grape ape on a bicycle.
Anyhow, the BMW runs well when you get it past 9k but below that it is about the same as any other litre bike. It handles well certainly brakes very well.
We should have had 01smokes race the other rider on the stock BMW, then we could have had more data points that may or may not reflect what the rest of the world is seeing.
we all agreed on the lengths when we got back to the dealership, i was just saying what we ALL agreed on, i looked back twice and saw more than 3-4 bikes but none the less the BMW is a fast bike. and ya it would have been nice to get to race the stock one with more equal weight riders.
Oh BTW turbobike i raced Cisco last night 55 roll till 160 and he got me by 5-6 and was still pulling when we shut them down i would have kept going but he was in front and shut down. i think it will be a good race with the BMW and the piped gen2
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posted June 20, 2010 08:59 AM
its hard to pull a gsxr 1000 (06 n up) on a rollon with the big bikes, power to weight is really a bitch during rollons, especially if the guy on the 1000 is 160 or lighter, lmao!, N if the bmw has more hp like it says compared to the gsxr's, then a roll on will be pretty impossible to beat.
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01smokes
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posted June 20, 2010 11:15 AM
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I was on the stock BMW. You are off of your assessment against me. We went from 2nd gear at about 65. I was seeing 7500rpms when we hit it. You pulled out immediately and got 3 bikes within a gear change. Then at that point your pull pretty much stopped. You may have been slightly pulling but very hard to tell for sure. I would say 3-4 bikes at most. Being behind I have a better perspective on the race.
BTW, I weigh 80lbs more than 01smokes and look like a grape ape on a bicycle.
Anyhow, the BMW runs well when you get it past 9k but below that it is about the same as any other litre bike. It handles well certainly brakes very well.
We should have had 01smokes race the other rider on the stock BMW, then we could have had more data points that may or may not reflect what the rest of the world is seeing.
I thought that weight might be a factor. 80 lbs. is a HUGE difference.
Oh ya 80lbs is a big difference, but inst the booza weigh over 100lbs more, stock for stock? and the BMW makes more power stock for stock right? so on paper he should have still beat me right HP to weight ratio is still in favor of the BMW
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posted June 21, 2010 09:57 AM
Gears make up for some weight.....................for awhile. :-) on the street in 60 in 2nd gear my 14 is MUCH quicker with 16/43 than the stock 17/41. 2nd thru 6th until about 175. Re-gearing is cheapest way to make ANy bike quicker thru the gears than any pipe or map. I ride with several 14 and Busa's and I weight 240 suited. We all have pipes,maps etc. I had to keep adding gear to over come me being so tall and heavy. When they regear I am screwed like 1bad......leave the donuts alone lol :-) I need to loose 40 pounds to be even with the rest of the guys I street race. Or spend even more $$ on bigger engine..it never ends.......... :-)
Glad there are no BMW running around the DFW area.so far. Piss me off getting beat in 2nd at 60 by
a STOCK 1000 with a 200 pound rider. Seen some modded 1000's I would NOT race for $$.
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posted June 21, 2010 10:28 AM
BMW riders handling bizness in straight lines huh.
Can't wait to see them on Road Atlanta during our upcoming track days
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