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posted May 24, 2010 10:12 AM
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ahhhhhh...the ol grudge race excuse.... 
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biggmoinc
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posted May 24, 2010 12:47 PM
damn, obver 800 lbs, i am really wanting to hear some numbers from yall, i thought i was heavy at 760, a 1.2x or 1.3x is awesome, if u can do that at ur weight i have no freakin excuse not to get at least a 1.5, show me some videos, i need to get my holeshot form polished, tired of the 1.6x's, lol
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kingtramp
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posted May 25, 2010 08:30 AM
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135 mph in the 1/8th on a stock motor Busa? Lucky you've seen 140 lb Alex ride Nick's 08 Busa, numbers match.
wee
So if I lose 40 pounds and knock 25 pounds off the bike, I can gain 14 mph in the 1/8th ?
.................... or do I need to trade the 14 for a Booza?
The wieght loss is very important, however the most important variable to consider is frontal square footage, JT tuck behind windshield is less cofient of drag then A RG or RS size rider.
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Master
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posted January 20, 2012 08:08 AM
Lets not forget this was done on a 08 busa.
the frontal square footage is as good as it gets. I think this is as fast as busa can ever go stock.
Not bad for a 1340cc motor thats easy to work on and runs forever.
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KAWITOM
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posted January 20, 2012 08:28 AM
Just to put it out there what do people think JT would do on a 14R with the same weight loss and gas. The fact is it makes more hp and tq so, is 8.20' s a possibility that is a hell of a number that JT put down without a doubt, but realistically how many people are out there that can run those kind of numbers?
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eklipse636
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posted January 20, 2012 09:06 AM
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Just to put it out there what do people think JT would do on a 14R with the same weight loss and gas. The fact is it makes more hp and tq so, is 8.20' s a possibility that is a hell of a number that JT put down without a doubt, but realistically how many people are out there that can run those kind of numbers?
You could count the people on one hand that can run the numbers it and smokin do... If that many
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madnessracing
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posted January 20, 2012 09:19 AM
put JT on my bike and see what happens!!
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justoyz2
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posted January 20, 2012 10:01 AM
After reading this post, it never seeses to amaze me how one person post a number and everyone .... It's always a bike that everyone says is stock, but no one else can produce the numbers.... like the Brock's BMW... I am sure there are several sold and are being drag raced, but no one else is producing the numbers.... Can someone explain this to me....
It's not just busas or 14s or even the BMWs.... it's just individual bikes that sprang up from not where claiming STOCK engines.
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madnessracing
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posted January 20, 2012 10:42 AM
You're one of them justoyz2!!!
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posted January 20, 2012 03:50 PM
i dont care how fast it gos... but I do love the power...Im happy just looking at it on a nice day
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kaw now
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posted January 20, 2012 05:49 PM
Master or 1bad who else would dig up some trash? And in timely fashion.
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pazx14rider
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posted January 20, 2012 06:54 PM
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After reading this post, it never seeses to amaze me how one person post a number and everyone .... It's always a bike that everyone says is stock, but no one else can produce the numbers.... like the Brock's BMW... I am sure there are several sold and are being drag raced, but no one else is producing the numbers.... Can someone explain this to me....
It's not just busas or 14s or even the BMWs.... it's just individual bikes that sprang up from not where claiming STOCK engines.
I agree 100% my buddy has a BMW identical to "Christine" best run has been a 9.18 at 154mph and thats with me running it. Im no light weight jockey and pull 1.4 60 fts. Id personally like to see one of these pro jockeys climb on our bmw and run those numbers the way it sits!
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posted January 20, 2012 07:04 PM
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One thing for sure a Vmax will not do that ... 
WITH JT on one it will
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justoyz2
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posted January 20, 2012 09:13 PM
Madness,
I will call it BS when I think it is.... I race guysall the time claiming their motors are stock.
Everyone thinks JT, RG and other are the badest.... not true... there are alot of racers that can ride extremely well. Ricky Grayson is one of the best along with several others..... not taking anything away from anyone I mentioned..... Lee is just a good as any of the best out there.
Busa owner as well as some Kaw owners will tell you their bikes are stock, when they know it's not. I have seen some stock motor busa run some good number, but they have light plastic, fake fuel tank, aftermarket wheels, long as hell, ceramic wheel bearing and slammed on the ground.
I know Lee and trust he will be honest... as you wanting to call me out... that's fine.... I stand behind what I say on any forum..... CHECK THAT!
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posted January 21, 2012 06:06 AM
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After reading this post, it never seeses to amaze me how one person post a number and everyone .... It's always a bike that everyone says is stock, but no one else can produce the numbers.... like the Brock's BMW... I am sure there are several sold and are being drag raced, but no one else is producing the numbers.... Can someone explain this to me....
It's not just busas or 14s or even the BMWs.... it's just individual bikes that sprang up from not where claiming STOCK engines.
I agree 100% my buddy has a BMW identical to "Christine" best run has been a 9.18 at 154mph and thats with me running it. Im no light weight jockey and pull 1.4 60 fts. Id personally like to see one of these pro jockeys climb on our bmw and run those numbers the way it sits!
You guys are forgetting JT is one of the best in the business. He can hop on any of our bikes within a few passes and go faster than us. He is like 115 pounds. About a month ago he ran a 6.90 something on Ken Edwards pro street bike and I believe the fastest Ken has gone is 7.20s. How did he pick up 3 tenths? You put him on a bike that is race prepped by some of the best in the business ie Brock, Adams etc... and of course the numbers will some unbelievable.
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dakota9498
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posted January 21, 2012 07:19 AM
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After reading this post, it never seeses to amaze me how one person post a number and everyone .... It's always a bike that everyone says is stock, but no one else can produce the numbers.... like the Brock's BMW... I am sure there are several sold and are being drag raced, but no one else is producing the numbers.... Can someone explain this to me....
It's not just busas or 14s or even the BMWs.... it's just individual bikes that sprang up from not where claiming STOCK engines.
I agree 100% my buddy has a BMW identical to "Christine" best run has been a 9.18 at 154mph and thats with me running it. Im no light weight jockey and pull 1.4 60 fts. Id personally like to see one of these pro jockeys climb on our bmw and run those numbers the way it sits!
Dystany Spurlock has one without a power commander and an Akropovic exhaust, lowered and stretched, and I have seen her run 8.70s. So I am sure with one properly set up with BSTs and the works with someone like JT on it the numbers would be there.
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justoyz2
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posted January 21, 2012 09:51 AM
Look at the numbers we are talking about, a busa weighs roughly 100lbs more than a 1k.
I am sure her bike has around 200 rwhp, just as the Vista zx10; Richard ran 8:70 on the Vista project.. Both 1k are running close. JT went 3 thenths faster because of the weight.
Ken weigh over 200 lbs (know him personnally).... Like I said, there are alot of JT's running around... IMO Ryan Schnitz is the badest racer pound per pound. He has been off the grid working with Muzzy on that prostock endevour.
JT is fast and consistant, just a Ricky G, Richard G, Ricky Grayson and alot of others.... I go back to my orignal statement.... those one hit wonders bike, Christine, the busa of topic and anyother real fast bike with at (") UH (") stock motor bike.
My friend has an 08 busa with light fuel tank, plastics, marvics wheels, full exhaust,DME subframe, after market shock, light weight foot pegs, PcV, 65 inches.. Mr12... he has gone 5:60's.. he weight......
As you can see, it is possible, but it takes alot of aftermarket mods to make this possible.
Lee, is running these numbers on a stretched bike, with pipe, no tunining, shifted, lowered and geared bike..... with minimal seat time.....
As to Dystany, just because there is no power commander, doesn't mean the fuel has not been minipulated, plus her bike is litterely sitting on the ground, plus it's longer than the Vista's zx10
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dakota9498
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posted January 21, 2012 11:13 AM
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As to Dystany, just because there is no power commander, doesn't mean the fuel has not been minipulated, plus her bike is litterely sitting on the ground, plus it's longer than the Vista's zx10
My point is, everyone is always bad mouthing the BMW's (I am not exactly a fan either), and people say that Brock's was a ringer or had more work than what they said. Dystany is fairly light, but I have not been real impressed with her riding ability (her 60s are not that great) and her bike still runs 8.70s.
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Shane661
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posted January 21, 2012 11:19 AM
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Like I said, there are alot of JT's running around... IMO Ryan Schnitz is the badest racer pound per pound. He has been off the grid working with Muzzy on that prostock endevour.
I wouldn't say that Ryan Schnitz has been off the grid.
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Brock
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posted January 21, 2012 11:22 AM
This is why I don't even own a 14R... they ALL appear to be 'ringers' to me 
It's going to be sick when we are done maxing one of these things out.
BTW, there are long grudge BMW's running in the 8.20's with stock engines in the southeast. The problem is that they are grudge boys, so you will never hear about their performance in forums. I could stretch my bike and go faster, but why? You guys don't believe how fast it is now, so I just left it alone.
I sure am glad it's Smokin who's running the numbers on the 14R... I couldn't handle any more assaults on my personal integrity. THANK YOU LEE and Kawasaki!!
Brock
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posted January 21, 2012 11:30 AM
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I couldn't handle any more assaults on my personal integrity.
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integrity.. bahwahaha
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posted January 21, 2012 11:41 AM
Edited By: RICH CRAFT 1 on 21 Jan 2012 19:53
thanks Brock, and I have no doubt that you are right about the BMW grudge bikes. I think there's a lot of people out there who don't understand the whole thing about weight, fuel, and density altitude, and what happens when you put them all together. Too bad AMA's super sport went away that was a good place to get a deal of what's going on with the new bikes
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The Blue Mule
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posted January 21, 2012 02:16 PM
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This is why I don't even own a 14R... they ALL appear to be 'ringers' to me
It's going to be sick when we are done maxing one of these things out.
BTW, there are long grudge BMW's running in the 8.20's with stock engines in the southeast. The problem is that they are grudge boys, so you will never hear about their performance in forums. I could stretch my bike and go faster, but why? You guys don't believe how fast it is now, so I just left it alone.
I sure am glad it's Smokin who's running the numbers on the 14R... I couldn't handle any more assaults on my personal integrity. THANK YOU LEE and Kawasaki!!
Brock
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Brock do you mind telling me what you ran on the zx-14 when it came out on pump gas? I think you and I are pretty close weight wise and I tried to set mine up like yours when it came except the race gas. I tuned mine for 89 octane and here in the KC area mine showed 177-180 on the dyno My best was 9.64 on it,Woska went 9.50 on it once. He was about 25 lbs lighter than me but he thought it might go a 9.20 something. I believed you from the get go. And when it was all said and done I didn't think I would go any faster at my weight. Then they closed my track. I remember the lighter riders running down into the eights with it. I am sure you are a much more experienced rider than I so I take that into consideration of course.
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justoyz2
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posted January 22, 2012 12:41 AM
All I am saying is this..... On my bikes... w/ me riding, I am 3 to 4 thenths slower than the pros. Richard rode my 2011 zx10 at Bradenton, at that time my set up was, 61 inches, lowered two inches, 15/43 gearing. U4.4, A/F was 12:8 to 1, ECU mode completed.
I didn't have much seat time, and the best I could get was 9:40. My short times were 1:60's
He got on the bike, first pass 60 footed the bike 1:50 and ran a 9:05. 2nd pass he cut a 1:52 and ran a 9:03. I was tuned at 12:8 to 1. My tune up was a little off, because this was in the spring of last year. The weather isn't that great in Fl during this time of year.
Now, I cut low 1:50s and run 9:20s.... best 9:26@151; I weight 218 suited.... I am sure he will run 8:80s on my bike.
I had Vick Gotay ride my 05 zx10, same type of senero... he was actually 3 .010's faster.
I call myself an ok rider. I have never had a bike longer than 63 inches. The best short time I have cut is an astonunding 1:47 (lol), yes I was stoked that day.....With everything said, an avg rider (like me) should be able to get on Brock's bike after making a few passes, should be able to ride 3 to 4 .010 slower than the pros....
There are alot of me type riders at the tracks with stock bikes and bolt on mods. This is why it's difficult to believe what we are told about a stock bike. I understand D/A, I understand power to weight ratio, and I also understand how to tune a bike to track conditions. I further understand the HP of your bike on day X (dynoed tuned) will not be the same at the track unless the conditions are the same as the day of your tune.... (which is why you have to tune to track condition, seeking to get the best MPH/ET from your bike, using D/A and your day of tuned conditions)
So, let's stop BSing each other with all this retheric about stock motors running these crazy numbers, with only one rider and someone else does the exact same mods, but no one can duplicate the E.T. or the MPH...
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dakota9498
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posted January 22, 2012 05:17 AM
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All I am saying is this..... On my bikes... w/ me riding, I am 3 to 4 thenths slower than the pros. Richard rode my 2011 zx10 at Bradenton, at that time my set up was, 61 inches, lowered two inches, 15/43 gearing. U4.4, A/F was 12:8 to 1, ECU mode completed.
I didn't have much seat time, and the best I could get was 9:40. My short times were 1:60's
He got on the bike, first pass 60 footed the bike 1:50 and ran a 9:05. 2nd pass he cut a 1:52 and ran a 9:03. I was tuned at 12:8 to 1. My tune up was a little off, because this was in the spring of last year. The weather isn't that great in Fl during this time of year.
Now, I cut low 1:50s and run 9:20s.... best 9:26@151; I weight 218 suited.... I am sure he will run 8:80s on my bike.
I had Vick Gotay ride my 05 zx10, same type of senero... he was actually 3 .010's faster.
I call myself an ok rider. I have never had a bike longer than 63 inches. The best short time I have cut is an astonunding 1:47 (lol), yes I was stoked that day.....With everything said, an avg rider (like me) should be able to get on Brock's bike after making a few passes, should be able to ride 3 to 4 .010 slower than the pros....
There are alot of me type riders at the tracks with stock bikes and bolt on mods. This is why it's difficult to believe what we are told about a stock bike. I understand D/A, I understand power to weight ratio, and I also understand how to tune a bike to track conditions. I further understand the HP of your bike on day X (dynoed tuned) will not be the same at the track unless the conditions are the same as the day of your tune.... (which is why you have to tune to track condition, seeking to get the best MPH/ET from your bike, using D/A and your day of tuned conditions)
So, let's stop BSing each other with all this retheric about stock motors running these crazy numbers, with only one rider and someone else does the exact same mods, but no one can duplicate the E.T. or the MPH...
Again, just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done. And there is more to a good run than just a good 60', if you get a good 60' and hang on to the clutch too long and screw up your 330' it will screw up your whole run, or the suspension rebounds and it spins after the 60', etc... So no "BSing" involved, just facts.
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