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posted May 06, 2010 06:50 PM
Lee, email me at dcjens@yahoodotcom ~D
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posted May 06, 2010 07:12 PM
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posted May 06, 2010 07:32 PM
try again
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posted May 06, 2010 07:51 PM
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posted May 07, 2010 02:00 AM
got an 09 and get the startup noise
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posted May 07, 2010 02:13 AM
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got an 09 and get the startup noise
Bummer, was told 09 had a different part# on CCT. I guess I will try the Carpentner Racing modded ZX-12 CCT he sells for his engine options.
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posted May 07, 2010 09:52 AM
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got an 09 and get the startup noise
Bummer, was told 09 had a different part# on CCT. I guess I will try the Carpentner Racing modded ZX-12 CCT he sells for his engine options.
Got an 06 that's totally quiet on startup 
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posted May 07, 2010 09:54 AM
 Edited By: gilberjj on 7 May 2010 17:55
I hadn't heard my cct do anything for quite some time. I started it up yesterday and it rattled for maybe 1 second. Doesn't bother me at all.
edit: Not taking away from you Darin, that's my kinda fix, but I just don't see the need for it right now.
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posted May 07, 2010 10:08 AM
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I hadn't heard my cct do anything for quite some time. I started it up yesterday and it rattled for maybe 1 second. Doesn't bother me at all.
edit: Not taking away from you Darin, that's my kinda fix, but I just don't see the need for it right now.
Yo be one of the lucky ones ya lucky bastard ya
My bike was built on a friday so I got what I had lol!
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posted May 07, 2010 11:54 AM
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I hadn't heard my cct do anything for quite some time. I started it up yesterday and it rattled for maybe 1 second. Doesn't bother me at all.
edit: Not taking away from you Darin, that's my kinda fix, but I just don't see the need for it right now.
Me too................. bitched about it. But never changed it. Always quiet after cold start.
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posted May 07, 2010 10:24 PM
I HAD a 3-4 second rattle until today! gone like the wind. It seems funny to NOT hear it anymore. do it 
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posted May 08, 2010 02:26 AM
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I HAD a 3-4 second rattle until today! gone like the wind. It seems funny to NOT hear it anymore. do it
Awesome! 
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posted May 08, 2010 02:29 AM
I did my oil change yesterday and there used to be a long rattle untill there was enough oil pressure.
Not anymore. Not a sound except for the exhaust. I love it!
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posted May 16, 2010 03:59 PM
Over 1500 miles on this mod and it's awesome!
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dcjens
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posted May 16, 2010 04:07 PM
I agree!! What noise??
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posted May 16, 2010 04:15 PM
I use the APE manual tensioner and I love it. Before I went manual I had the couple second rattle at first than I switched to synthetic oil and it would rattle alot more. I changed it out for the manual tensioner. I have 35000km on the bike now.
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posted May 16, 2010 04:15 PM
Lol! Only the noise that comes out the tail pipes
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posted May 16, 2010 04:17 PM
No starter drag after a long ride? Did this to a FJ1200 years ago, no problem with it.
But I ride out of state on trips sometimes (change sprockets etc) lot of start and stop for pic's in mountains in summer heat. Read that some 14 owners with the APE manual experienced starter drag when ridden in hot weather.....?? Or some people can't adjust manual very good............ ??
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posted May 16, 2010 04:19 PM
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I use the APE manual tensioner and I love it. Before I went manual I had the couple second rattle at first than I switched to synthetic oil and it would rattle alot more. I changed it out for the manual tensioner. I have 35000km on the bike now.
Newf14
I was gonna go the APE route but then this guy named dcjens posted this thread about the cct mod and I thought to myself... Hey I got all the parts in my shop to do this mod and a couple spare ccts laying around too.
Heck I couldn't beat the price lol!
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posted May 16, 2010 04:24 PM
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No starter drag after a long ride? Did this to a FJ1200 years ago, no problem with it.
But I ride out of state on trips sometimes (change sprockets etc) lot of start and stop for pic's in mountains in summer heat. Read that some 14 owners with the APE manual experienced starter drag when ridden in hot weather.....?? Or some people can't adjust manual very good............ ??
Louis
Rode to Vegas friday and it was hot like 90+.
Had to start the bike up quite a few times . No problems at all!
I think the hot start issue is due to adjusting too tight .
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posted May 16, 2010 04:50 PM
Lets put this hole CCT to rest .. Have any of you removed your CCT and seen how it works ? Well i have and it's no big deal ...When the chain wears over time and the chain get a little longer the plunger moves out a bit more and is locked into the next grove by a wire type retainer .. What happens to some of you that are hearing the start up ratter is the plunger is in between two of the locking groves ..Now when your chain get just a tad longer it will lock in the next grove and guess what no more rattle on start up .. As the chain gets a bit longer your rattle will come back because it will be caught in no mans land again .. This could repeat over and over .. This is the reason some of you have the rattle and some don't .. My 06 rattled like hell when new and then stopped with about 3000 miles ... My 09 never rattled new but at 2000 miles it started rattling on start up .. Only reason to fix the rattle is because you don't like to hear it ..It will cause no harm to let it rattle on start up ...
I believe the CCT for the zx12 has a better locking system , maybe less space between lock rings and can self adjust quicker than the zx14 CCT .. Now go ride you bike and have fun.. 
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posted May 16, 2010 06:39 PM
Edited By: INTIMIDA2OR on 17 May 2010 02:41
Oh yes I'm having fun again now that my CCT doesn't have a mind of it's own. I tell ya it was hell having to baby my motor around cause everytime I hit the rev limiter the CCT would start rattling.
Mine was deffective and didn't lock correctly anymore. When it was just a startup rattle I was fine. When I couldn't rev my motor anymore ,that was the last straw lol! Now my Dads Blue 06 on the other hand doesn't even make a start up rattle. No CCT noises ever! Strange ...
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posted May 16, 2010 06:46 PM
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Oh yes I'm having fun again now that my CCT doesn't have a mind of it's own. I tell ya it was hell having to baby my motor around cause everytime I hit the rev limiter the CCT would start rattling.
Mine was deffective and didn't lock correctly anymore. When it was just a startup rattle I was fine. When I couldn't rev my motor anymore ,that was the last straw lol! Now my Dads Blue 06 on the other hand doesn't even make a start up rattle. No CCT noises ever! Strange ...
Sounds like your locking ring took a dump ...I could see that happening because it's so small and thin wire to start with .. Did you replace it with a stocker or zx12 or some other type ?
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posted May 16, 2010 06:47 PM
I think your right as the grooves are very far apart. Ive put 18,000 on my bike and it did it every mile of the way. every start. This bike has 2 imaginary things kawi could fix in my opinion. doing nothing works too. I rode my 500 miles this weekend
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posted May 16, 2010 06:51 PM
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Oh yes I'm having fun again now that my CCT doesn't have a mind of it's own. I tell ya it was hell having to baby my motor around cause everytime I hit the rev limiter the CCT would start rattling.
Mine was deffective and didn't lock correctly anymore. When it was just a startup rattle I was fine. When I couldn't rev my motor anymore ,that was the last straw lol! Now my Dads Blue 06 on the other hand doesn't even make a start up rattle. No CCT noises ever! Strange ...
Sounds like your locking ring took a dump ...I could see that happening because it's so small and thin wire to start with .. Did you replace it with a stocker or zx12 or some other type ?
Yes it took a dump. I modded it .
Made it into a manual CCT .
Alls well now
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