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posted June 15, 2010 03:16 PM
I suppose I'm putting the cart in front of the horse. I need to get this thing together first....
  
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gilberjj
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posted June 19, 2010 01:09 AM
K.... I was sitting up late (again), and I can't sleep cause I have turbo bikes on my mind...
I'm trying to figure out a way to cheaply build a bike that I'll easily be able to run consistently and reliably at the track. I think it will be important for consistency to get some sort of boost controller that will allow higher boost in higher gears. I think I've just about exhausted all the options for adjusting boost by gear, but what do you think about this....
If I were to buy a multifunction hub, I could pull 10 degrees of timing in 1st, 7 degrees in 2nd..... etc. I can run 10psi in every gear, but it will most definitely make less power with more timing pulled. Do you think that's a possibility? The only thing that concerns me is the egt's if I'm pulling that much timing.... I bet they would be HOT!
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posted June 19, 2010 10:14 AM
I think retarding timing doesn't increase the combustion or piston temps, it increases egt cause the fuel is still burning in the pipe, and less in the cylinder.... thats what i am thinking, but not 100% sure on that.
Boost by smith is a cheaper alternative to gear based boost
If your only running 7-10 psi, then I would just run it, or use a 2 stage like ams500
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gilberjj
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posted July 23, 2010 03:16 PM
 Edited By: gilberjj on 23 Jul 2010 23:20
A guy is trying to sell this kit for $2500 here and on psychobike. What a joke. I told him he's delusional and trying to screw ppl.
edit: To be fair, he added a turbo, fmu, fuel pump, and lines. Any way you slice it, he's looking to make well over $1000 profit. I've sold used parts for more expensive then I bought them on occasion, but nothing over $100 profit (even on expensive stuff). What are your thoughts on this. I'm tempted to post on his fs thread, but I think I'll just let it be.
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posted July 23, 2010 03:26 PM
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A guy is trying to sell this kit for $2500 here and on psychobike. What a joke. I told him he's delusional and trying to screw ppl.
edit: To be fair, he added a turbo, fmu, fuel pump, and lines. Any way you slice it, he's looking to make well over $1000 profit. I've sold used parts for more expensive then I bought them on occasion, but nothing over $100 profit (even on expensive stuff). What are your thoughts on this. I'm tempted to post on his fs thread, but I think I'll just let it be.
How much did it cost you to add the turbo, fuel pump, fmu, and lines, when all was said and done?
And which turbo does he have? Is it the full Cycle Logic kit? That kit is $5k, complete.
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posted July 23, 2010 03:27 PM
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A guy is trying to sell this kit for $2500 here and on psychobike. What a joke. I told him he's delusional and trying to screw ppl.
edit: To be fair, he added a turbo, fmu, fuel pump, and lines. Any way you slice it, he's looking to make well over $1000 profit. I've sold used parts for more expensive then I bought them on occasion, but nothing over $100 profit (even on expensive stuff). What are your thoughts on this. I'm tempted to post on his fs thread, but I think I'll just let it be.
I seen that too, and thought the same thing, that he probely bought a $500 partial kit and added a few parts and trying to make a killing on the complete kit.
But hey,someone who deosn't know about the partial kits will think it a great deal compared to spending $5000.
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posted July 23, 2010 03:31 PM
Edited By: LeonidasZX14 on 23 Jul 2010 23:32
Its called business, nothing more and nothing less. I have sold shit that I have got for free. I don't sell my stuff for fun, I sell my stuff to make money  Just to be fair about your post Gilbjj I do see several members on here that think there stuff is made of gold and ask WAY to much for stuff.
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gilberjj
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posted July 23, 2010 04:56 PM
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Its called business, nothing more and nothing less. I have sold shit that I have got for free. I don't sell my stuff for fun, I sell my stuff to make money Just to be fair about your post Gilbjj I do see several members on here that think there stuff is made of gold and ask WAY to much for stuff.
So it wouldn't bother you if I put up your old extensions for $100 even though you sold them to me for $20? I guess it is business, but whenever I get a great deal, I either try to trade up or pass on the savings in most cases.... On ebay, I don't know the people, so I sell it for as much as possible.
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posted July 23, 2010 05:18 PM
how many times have you found a complete turbo kit , for a 14, new not used for 2500.00?
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posted July 23, 2010 05:34 PM
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how many times have you found a complete turbo kit , for a 14, new not used for 2500.00?
Not very often.... however, this can't be compared to a kit by mr turbo, muzzys, cycle logic, big cc, etc.... ANYONE can buy this kit for $1500 OR LESS right now. Why is he charging $2500?
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posted August 28, 2010 09:04 AM
I will be buying a turbo for the kit in the next month, then piecing together the fuel system, and lockup clutch. Probably doing all the business with cycle logic. I've been very happy with them so far...
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posted August 28, 2010 07:06 PM
., WhAT do you think cycle logic has in his 5000 kits?
Anyone is welcome to buy the partial kit and FIND a cheaper TURBO.
Air shifter can be built for 1/2 what they sell for online.
Can't beat a 2500 turbo especially for a Kawasaki.
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posted September 13, 2010 07:49 AM
Picked up a turbo finally. I went with a mitsubishi big 16g. It's used, but in great condition. No shaft play at all....
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posted September 13, 2010 09:32 AM
I was hoping to find info on what type of intercooler HPC was using ? With HPC gone I'm not familiar with any one else that's used an IC. I was all in favor of switching to a GT35 till I read folks stating boost starts at 6500rpm+.
I've also been told water/meth injection is a band aid and wont make HP. I'm no expert just looking for a more reliable solution - my current IHI is too small and I'm not satisfied with the top end. Feels like it runs out of steam in my opinion. This is a great thread - lots of good info.
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posted September 13, 2010 11:16 AM
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I was hoping to find info on what type of intercooler HPC was using ? With HPC gone I'm not familiar with any one else that's used an IC. I was all in favor of switching to a GT35 till I read folks stating boost starts at 6500rpm+.
I've also been told water/meth injection is a band aid and wont make HP. I'm no expert just looking for a more reliable solution - my current IHI is too small and I'm not satisfied with the top end. Feels like it runs out of steam in my opinion. This is a great thread - lots of good info.
Chris Jones uses a gt35 and he told me" ina roll on at 4000 rpm it will outrun a stock 14 for the first 30 feet, and then it just pulls away"
Not peaky, and does not run flat on upper rpm like small turbo's
... it just plain pulls linear smooth and fast...
Thats what he told me time and again.
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posted September 13, 2010 08:14 PM
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I was hoping to find info on what type of intercooler HPC was using ? With HPC gone I'm not familiar with any one else that's used an IC. I was all in favor of switching to a GT35 till I read folks stating boost starts at 6500rpm+.
I've also been told water/meth injection is a band aid and wont make HP. I'm no expert just looking for a more reliable solution - my current IHI is too small and I'm not satisfied with the top end. Feels like it runs out of steam in my opinion. This is a great thread - lots of good info.
I know the feeling........ I remember when my supra ran flat up top with my 61mm turbo. I upgraded cams and went to a 69mm turbo....... I can't even begin to tell you how much better the car felt once it was pulling STRONG to the limiter...... Boost is addicting. I would recommend using a meth kit if you really need it, but if I was building a big turbo kit, I'd just opt for e85 fuel system since you'll need bigger injectors regardless. e85 burns really cool compared to gasoline. Just put your a/f at 10.5:1 and you could run day in and day out on big boost. If you're running the ihi turbo, I'm sure you're running the cycle logic kit. Therefore you'll have no room for a gt35 from what I've heard. Put on a 20g for the time being....
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posted September 14, 2010 12:55 PM
will a 20g fit that Cycle logic header?
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posted September 18, 2010 02:32 PM
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will a 20g fit that Cycle logic header?
I don't know, but there is a member (I don't remember who) here that is running an 18g on a cycle logic header.
$300 here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ZAGE-TD05-TURBO-SUBARU-IMPREZA-WRX-STI-LEGACY-TD05-18G-/270619011414?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f02266956#ht_2814wt_1111
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posted September 19, 2010 11:37 AM
i was running an 18g on mine. tried a 20 and its too big physically. (to fit that header)
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posted September 19, 2010 08:47 PM
how did you like the 18g ?
any mods to make it work?
what boost and HP levels?
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posted December 28, 2010 11:05 PM
Update: the kit should be installed by next week (I'll make sure to snap some pictures). I ported the turbine housing to ensure that the exhaust gases will be able to bypass the turbine via the external wastegate. Also, I have ceramic coated the turbine housing black to keep heat down (plus I hate that rusty look). I purchased my fuel pump, and instead of running a rising rate fuel pressure regulator, I'm modifying the internal regulator and setting the static fuel pressure to about 60 psi. That should supply more then enough fuel for my goals (300 whp). Additionally, I've changed plans a little. I'll be pulling the head to install carpenter heavy duty valve springs and a custom thick head gasket from cometic (84mm bore, .070" thick) this will lower my compression from 12:1 to about 10.29:1. Depending on how the dyne tuning goes, this may allow me to turn the boost up to 15ish psi. This is going to be FUN!!!!!!!
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posted December 29, 2010 06:41 AM
Use the RRFPR, At 15 pounds of boost I had 85 lbs of fuel pressure 39 at idle on my ZX14. It was dyno tuned. See what 01smokes did with the BEGI 2025 RRFPR I sold him with my turbo kit. I don;t know if he used it or not. You can't skimp on fuel pressure. If it detonates on the stock pistons for long it will collaspe the ring lands of the pistons and you could possible damage the cylinder which would have to be sent off fixed and replated ($$$$). They work great and I have run mine for years.
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posted December 29, 2010 08:13 AM
what is the hp difference in a 16g 18g or vf22?
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posted December 29, 2010 09:19 AM
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Update: the kit should be installed by next week (I'll make sure to snap some pictures). I ported the turbine housing to ensure that the exhaust gases will be able to bypass the turbine via the external wastegate. Also, I have ceramic coated the turbine housing black to keep heat down (plus I hate that rusty look). I purchased my fuel pump, and instead of running a rising rate fuel pressure regulator, I'm modifying the internal regulator and setting the static fuel pressure to about 60 psi. That should supply more then enough fuel for my goals (300 whp). Additionally, I've changed plans a little. I'll be pulling the head to install carpenter heavy duty valve springs and a custom thick head gasket from cometic (84mm bore, .070" thick) this will lower my compression from 12:1 to about 10.29:1. Depending on how the dyne tuning goes, this may allow me to turn the boost up to 15ish psi. This is going to be FUN!!!!!!!
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posted December 29, 2010 11:08 AM
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Use the RRFPR, At 15 pounds of boost I had 85 lbs of fuel pressure 39 at idle on my ZX14. It was dyno tuned. See what 01smokes did with the BEGI 2025 RRFPR I sold him with my turbo kit. I don;t know if he used it or not. You can't skimp on fuel pressure. If it detonates on the stock pistons for long it will collaspe the ring lands of the pistons and you could possible damage the cylinder which would have to be sent off fixed and replated ($$$$). They work great and I have run mine for years.
I still got it ill sell it cheap if you need it or want it
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