kawasakijockey
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posted April 16, 2010 07:54 AM
Oil smoke at throttle opening and decel
Got a friend whos 06 14 is blue smoking like a valve seal problem. It has a 44 dry shot. The oil smoking started last week but the bike has not lost any mph like you would think should happen if the motor was hurt. The plugs dont show any lean problems whatsoever. Wondering if anyone had an issue where the gaskets on the valve cover was somehow letting oil go into the exhaust port by the clean air passage after talking with 1Bad this morning. I havent done any leakdown tests on it because it is going to the engine shop next week to be checked.
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smokinZX14
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posted April 16, 2010 08:10 AM
Never heard of any valve seal problems ... My bet it's caused by spraying the bike ..Mostlikely rings ... It is possible that the orings around the clean air system could be leaking , i have seen it happen on other Bikes .. I would check that first and then do a leak down ..
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kawasakijockey
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posted April 16, 2010 08:26 AM
More than likely you are right about the rings. It just seems strange that it does not smoke with a load on the engine. Puzzling..
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loki 7
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posted April 18, 2010 03:12 PM
A local guys here had a zx12 with a similiar sounding problem. He was spraying a 40 shot on the button. A little smoke off the line but at the end of his run, the bike smoked so bad track officials thought he oiled down the track. Well to make a long story short, the bike eventually became hard to start ...it took weeks/months to get to this point. Pulled the motor apart and 3 of the 4 pistions were junk. It was amazing the bike even ran. I sure hope this is not the case with your bike.
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speedgene
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posted April 18, 2010 03:29 PM
Ding-Ding-Ding! ^^^^^ [just picking my nose waiting for the best choice so far is gonna stick with this like a skirt to a cylinder wall]
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CrotchRocket
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posted April 18, 2010 04:18 PM
I guess it was running lean during the spray!!!
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kawasakijockey
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posted April 18, 2010 06:13 PM
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I guess it was running lean during the spray!!!
It might have been but I dont see it at the plugs. It dyno'd 12.0 on the spray.
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8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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SteddyTeddy
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posted April 19, 2010 05:10 AM
It's just due to come apart then. You spray, you pay. 
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speedgene
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posted April 19, 2010 05:17 AM
Engine will have compression, run, sound somewhat quiet, clean looking plugs...sans tiny spots of det on the plug read. Any spots on the porcelain, though the plug looks kinda clean? Say a valve tick cannot go away after you set the valves or find they are within spec. That tick is the skirt moving in the two directions. You lose tolerance at the skirt and it ticks up and ticks down like the valves are making noise.
Next oiler is when the piston dome collapses the rings in the groove. This can no longer be both a compression sealer and an oil scraper at the same time. So with the ring not spreading out under pressure, that oil can stay on the wall, mix with the burn is burn the oil in the chamber. There is your smoke is a collapsed ring and/or, scored skirt.
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zxbob
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posted April 19, 2010 05:33 AM
Check the easy stuff first, is there oil in the air box - a high oil level will do this.
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kawasakijockey
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posted April 19, 2010 07:22 AM
 Edited By: kawasakijockey on 19 Apr 2010 15:23
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It's just due to come apart then. You spray, you pay.
That is the very reason I wont upgrade fron the 24hp shot on mine..I dont want to pay..
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oilfieldtrash
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posted April 19, 2010 07:24 AM
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It's just due to come apart then. You spray, you pay.
That is the very reason I wont upgrade fron the 24hp shot on mine..I dont want to pay..
that's why I don't do any at all. I plan on getting 30,000 strong miles out of this bike and upgrading to a zx16.
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Hellmutt
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posted April 19, 2010 07:50 AM
that's why I don't do any at all. I plan on getting 30,000 strong miles out of this bike and upgrading to a zx16.
a ZX16!?!? That sounds awesome. It's be cool shit to see someone shove a 3.0 V6 into a 14 -- kind of like the Boss Hoss small block Hondas! Talk about a speed demon!
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oilfieldtrash
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posted April 19, 2010 07:54 AM
Yeah 220 hp at the rear wheel.
It's nice to dream anyways. But soon as Kawasaki wants to come out with the next gen 14 and if it kicks ass I'm in.
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kawasakijockey
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posted April 19, 2010 08:01 AM
Not anytime soon I bet.
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8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted April 19, 2010 10:19 AM
I want a ZX-20 
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gilberjj
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posted April 19, 2010 10:52 AM
I wouldn't cost them anything to put in a bigger motor with more hp
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Bluebyyou
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posted April 20, 2010 04:15 AM
I know you said blue smoke which is typical for an oil burner but you didn't mention any substantial oil consumption. Are you sure it's not just an overly rich A/F condition and black smoke?? Just asking, not doubting your mechanical prowess.
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SLVR_BLT
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posted April 20, 2010 10:48 AM
My zx isn't eating any oil but my 08 Suzi 750 been eating half a quart of 300V every 1100 miles. Can someone say warranty?
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