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INTIMIDA2OR


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posted April 07, 2010 10:06 AM        
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okay here is the scoop,

I charged the battery all night and this am the bike still will not start. i dont have a voltmeter but the one on the bike's display reads 11.8v. this is making me think that it is a bad battery. im running out to get a new one now and we will see.

My speedo was reading 100kmph while only doing 80kmph. (i check by following my roomies car) and while going with the flow of traffic prob around 90kmph it was indicating around 120-130kmph.

i bought the bike at a used bike shop but they also sell on consignment. so they say that it is not their responsibility. i would love to take it back and have them fix it, but i dont think they will do anything for me. (not to mention i now have no way of transporting it) but they did tell they had done an inspection which they obviously haven't so im inclined to keep pushing them.

The dealer sold you a lemon. I would take it back to them and use the lemon law to help.
But so far the battery is suspect so we'll see what happens when you change it out.



Lee I do not think this member is in the USA................KPH on speedo. Lemon Law ,USA.
He could have had a dirty ground etc, hard to tell without us being there.

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posted April 07, 2010 10:38 AM        
This should be an easy fix............ For Dubious,since he is our resident Canadian and is closest too.
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SixSixoh6


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posted April 07, 2010 11:09 AM        
There IS a recall on the tilt sensor too boys. lets not forget that. However its just for the mounting bolts...being as its an "oh eight" it may have not been affected. My 06 has a recall out for it for this. Causing the same issue. Butt....

11.8v on these bikes is a DEAD DOG. Replace the battery. Should be good to go.
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alstar83


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posted April 07, 2010 11:29 AM        Edited By: alstar83 on 7 Apr 2010 20:10
yeah im in Canada. The bike is used, but new to me (only 2700kms) what the dealer is saying is that they sold it to me under consignment. As in, they sold it to for some private owner. all the dealer does is take a fee.

new battery is charging now. i did notice the tilt sensor is kinda loose, but it almost looks like its supposed to be? think this could be a problem?

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posted April 07, 2010 11:43 AM        
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There IS a recall on the tilt sensor too boys. lets not forget that. However its just for the mounting bolts...being as its an "oh eight" it may have not been affected. My 06 has a recall out for it for this. Causing the same issue. Butt....

11.8v on these bikes is a DEAD DOG. Replace the battery. Should be good to go.


What recalls are out for the 2006 models? The previous owner had the frame recall done but im not sure if there is any other outstanding recalls that should be done.
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alstar83


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posted April 07, 2010 11:53 AM        Edited By: alstar83 on 7 Apr 2010 20:08

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posted April 07, 2010 11:54 AM        Edited By: alstar83 on 7 Apr 2010 19:57

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speedgene


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posted April 07, 2010 01:51 PM        
Yes, frame is one. Tilt is the other and I think that is it for the line to this date. Tilt is tied to the fuel pump. You said you heard the fuel pump. The tilt works. It is rubber mounted so it does not jump around too much, shut you on and off like a bouncing ping pong ball. The bulletin is, "checking for" and not, "they are loose so tighten." It is just a lawyerage cautionary step that some were found loose, so run the bulletin and cover your ass. No harm in checking even though it may not be yours specifically.
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alstar83


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posted April 07, 2010 05:41 PM        
I put the new battery in and it took about 10min to start, when it finally did I decided to take it to the bike shop because my fuel gauge was still reading zero. I got about a block away from home and my fuel gauge started to work again. unfortunatly two blocks from home the bike started to stall on me. I was only able to get between 1500 and 2000rpm. I ended up "crawling" to the local bike shop. I'll keep you all posted when they tell me what the hell is wrong with my bike!

any new thoughts?

Thanks for all the info and advise, i really appreciate it.

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posted April 07, 2010 05:52 PM        
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Yes, frame is one. Tilt is the other and I think that is it for the line to this date. Tilt is tied to the fuel pump. You said you heard the fuel pump. The tilt works. It is rubber mounted so it does not jump around too much, shut you on and off like a bouncing ping pong ball. The bulletin is, "checking for" and not, "they are loose so tighten." It is just a lawyerage cautionary step that some were found loose, so run the bulletin and cover your ass. No harm in checking even though it may not be yours specifically.


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INTIMIDA2OR


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posted April 07, 2010 07:10 PM        
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I put the new battery in and it took about 10min to start, when it finally did I decided to take it to the bike shop because my fuel gauge was still reading zero. I got about a block away from home and my fuel gauge started to work again. unfortunatly two blocks from home the bike started to stall on me. I was only able to get between 1500 and 2000rpm. I ended up "crawling" to the local bike shop. I'll keep you all posted when they tell me what the hell is wrong with my bike!

any new thoughts?

Thanks for all the info and advise, i really appreciate it.

Could be a faulty ECU , or it could be some connections that are bad somewhere.
You need to have your bike checked out !
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speedgene


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posted April 07, 2010 08:55 PM        
"Not so fast, Cowboy!"

Did he fart in the pool or Foul out a set of plugs?

"Guy, go get foul mouth out of the pool. Hey you, shitin there, we dunt pee in your toilet so please do!.... Guy! Go! ECU he's all tense... Too LATE!" They swapped out his ECU and it's still doing it riding her home. I'm going to guess spark plugs.


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posted April 07, 2010 09:30 PM        


Check your battery connections, and tighten them.
A trickle charger is designed to maintain, more than help recover a weak charge, so hit it with a 2 amp charger. Even a 2 amp charger will need 24 hrs to charge a dead battery.
trickle could take days

if it doesn't reach more than 12.8v the battery is junk.
If it froze as many do in our canadian winters without use for months it will split the internal plates and junk your battery.

The tilt recal was for 06 models only, and the voltage would not have dropped off because of that.

There are some better alternatives than the stock battery too
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LAB3


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posted April 08, 2010 02:43 AM        
Do what Dubious posted and check spark plugs.....low battery bike runs crappy.un-burned gas fouls spark plugs.
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BIGZXDADDY


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posted April 08, 2010 09:55 AM        
sometimes problems like this can be traced back to something the previous owner did to the bike. like maybe it had a boogie alarm and the owner removed it before selling and did a hatchet job on the wiring or maybe a harness was moved for some reason and not re-secured and is now chaffing thru on something.i've seen a lot of screwy problems caused by stereo and alarm installers
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INTIMIDA2OR


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posted April 08, 2010 10:37 PM        
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