eklipse636
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posted April 06, 2010 07:20 PM
Msd shiftlight install
Msd shiftlight install....
I tried hooking up my shiftlight tonight. Its the msd with small digital screen. We neve got it to work properly.
Hooked positive straight to battery (for testing purposes)
hooked up good ground
hooked to coil wire (red wire with silver tracer as msd directions say to hook to positive wire)
started bike and rpm's on shift light varied from 500 to 4000 up and down while the bike was ideling. When you gave it some throttle The rpms would drop. We even hooked it to the tach wire in the back of the guage cluster and it done the same thing.
I tried setting it on 1 cyl, 2 cyl, and 4 cyl.
Anyone have any advice?!?!
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eklipse636
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posted April 07, 2010 02:33 AM
No one has hooked this shift light up that can give a little bit of advice?!?!
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Shane661
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posted April 07, 2010 03:15 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 7 Apr 2010 11:15
Dusty, to my recollection there are 3 wires off of the light. Ground, hot, and the wire for the coil signal. The resistor that I included would be installed in series between the coil wire output and the light. It's purpose would be noise reduction, if needed. I did not need it.
The 14 does not have a true tach signal wire. The wires to the gauge cluster are multiplexed and will not provide a direct output for the light.
I have used that light with a coil pigtail, and also tested the gmr pickup. The light has only one weekend of use on it, and was stored indoors for the last 8 months or so. That is the best information that I can provide. If it is not working for you, please return it for a full refund. Thanks!
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dubious
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posted April 07, 2010 04:20 AM
If i remember right i used the calibration for V-8 to ghet proper RPM
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pazx14rider
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posted April 07, 2010 06:23 AM
Ok Eklipse just checked mine when it comes on 1 cly operation flashes, no resistors needed never messed with them. you are on the correct clynder correct? im going out in about an hr to the garage i will take a look and see if i can see anything. just sucks i have the plastics on now dont know how much i will be able to see.
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eklipse636
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posted April 07, 2010 10:11 AM
Just got off the phone with Ray coral at mps and he thinks my air shifter is messing up the signal on the wire, so he told me to hook it to the tach output wire on the ecu. Anyone know which wire that is? I'm going to be headed home in a few min and I'm going to try it when I figure out which wire is which
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8.89 mph 151.32
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SixSixoh6
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posted April 07, 2010 11:12 AM
quote:
Just got off the phone with Ray coral at mps and he thinks my air shifter is messing up the signal on the wire, so he told me to hook it to the tach output wire on the ecu. Anyone know which wire that is? I'm going to be headed home in a few min and I'm going to try it when I figure out which wire is which
Isnt your air shifter working on the NEGATIVE side of the coils?
Isnt the shift light to be hooked to the POSITIVE side of the coils? i dont see how that could cause interference...
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Shane661
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posted April 07, 2010 11:59 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 7 Apr 2010 20:02
Like I said Dusty, to my knowledge there is no clean tach signal output from the ecu on the 14. Supposedly that data is carried over the Canbus interface, and that is not a shift-light compatible signal. Older bikes like the 12R had a clean tach output.
Get the pigtail from Schnitz or tie into one of the other 3 coil wires at the ECU. I have my airshifter connected to all 4 coil wires at the ecu, and had no problem with using the pigtail.
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eklipse636
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posted April 07, 2010 02:24 PM
Sixsixoh6 yes your are correct. The air shifter is hooked to the red wire with silver tracer. After reading wheelies post, I know now the white wires with red, yellow, blue, and green tracers arethe hot. I have tried hooking the gmr pickup to every wire, including the red less than 1" away from coil number one and I can't pick up a reading anywhere.... Ray is suppose to be at the track Friday and he said he is going to tale a look at it. I still want it to be hooked up before I drive 4 1/2 hrs
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dubious
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posted April 07, 2010 03:48 PM
don't use gms, wire hot coil wire to signal wire of light direct
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SixSixoh6
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posted April 07, 2010 05:50 PM
i always looked at that device as the same as an amp clamp used in multimeters, yes its accurate to some degree but then it will have its interference and issues. id do what dubious says...hardwire it and call it done. do it so you can quick disconnect it if needed and it will not interfere with anything else
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cc737
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posted April 09, 2010 04:51 AM
I have one of those on order for my 08 14 because it worked very well on my 12. On the 12 the pickup had to be around the black wire on cylinder 1 and the light programmed for 1 cylinder operation. No issues at all. You must have something else going on
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cc737
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posted April 13, 2010 08:14 PM
did my MSD install today. Fired the bike up and had correct RPM numbers right away. Programmed 4K into it just as a check and the light triggered everytime 4K was hit. I used the red/silver trace wire off of cylinder 1 for the pickup and set the light to 1 cylinder mode. If you use the white/red trace you'll cook the processor in the shift light. The light can't take the higher voltage from the - side
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