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posted March 31, 2010 06:34 PM
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I was picking up my supplies today and the dealer talked me into a shorter K&N oil filter, the KN-204. It's shorter than the OEM and the K&N KN-303. I liked the idea of the shorter filter because of how close the header pipes are to the stock oem filter.
Should I have any concerns about this shorter filter or its peformance? I realize it may not be everyone's first choice, but it will only be there for a year and probably less than 2500 miles of street riding.
Thank you.
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posted March 31, 2010 07:59 PM
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I was picking up my supplies today and the dealer talked me into a shorter K&N oil filter, the KN-204. It's shorter than the OEM and the K&N KN-303. I liked the idea of the shorter filter because of how close the header pipes are to the stock oem filter.
Should I have any concerns about this shorter filter or its peformance? I realize it may not be everyone's first choice, but it will only be there for a year and probably less than 2500 miles of street riding.
Thank you.
Besides losing a small amount of oil capacity / filter surface area there really isn't much difference. If you want a slightly shorter filter why not run the Kawi 16097-0002 filter instead? I still don't see any real use though, what kind of exhaust are you running where the oil filter gets that close? Im running a filter 1" longer then stock and im no where near the header with my Muzzy M14.
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posted March 31, 2010 08:06 PM
I know the Yosh's run real close to the filter and they suck for that!
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posted March 31, 2010 08:13 PM
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I was picking up my supplies today and the dealer talked me into a shorter K&N oil filter, the KN-204. It's shorter than the OEM and the K&N KN-303. I liked the idea of the shorter filter because of how close the header pipes are to the stock oem filter.
Should I have any concerns about this shorter filter or its peformance? I realize it may not be everyone's first choice, but it will only be there for a year and probably less than 2500 miles of street riding.
Thank you.
You should be fine. What kind of pipe are you running that is causing the clearance problem?
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posted March 31, 2010 08:25 PM
INTIMIDA2OR why so negative on Yosh pipes??? did someone hit u in the balls with a Yosh Pipe or do you get passed by alot of bikes with Yosh pipes? Explain how you know the filter runs close on Yosh pipes, was it when you awstruck by examining one up close and were envious............... LOL
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posted March 31, 2010 08:27 PM
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I know the Yosh's run real close to the filter and they suck for that!
Really? Wow, that must be a very awkward pipe design, mine look like they are all swept towards the right side of the bike. This bike has been the easiest to do a oil change of any bike ive owned. All you really need is a 17mm ratchet, no need to remove fairings, none of that...life is good.
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posted March 31, 2010 08:30 PM
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INTIMIDA2OR why so negative on Yosh pipes??? did someone hit u in the balls with a Yosh Pipe or do you get passed by alot of bikes with Yosh pipes? Explain how you know the filter runs close on Yosh pipes, was it when you awstruck by examining one up close and were envious............... LOL
Sorry but everybody and his mama and his daddys booza has a yosh on it ... Too much of the same thing bugs me. And I've seen a few in my shop for an oil change with the oil filter too close to the exhaust. The short filter would help!
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posted March 31, 2010 08:30 PM
INTIMIDA2OR is talkin out his ass, my oil changes are as easy as yours SLVR_BLT
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posted March 31, 2010 08:33 PM
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INTIMIDA2OR is talkin out his ass, my oil changes are as easy as yours SLVR_BLT
But you can't run a bigger oil filter can you?
Can you wrap your hand around the oil filter ? I don't think you can!
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posted March 31, 2010 08:37 PM
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I know the Yosh's run real close to the filter and they suck for that!
Really? Wow, that must be a very awkward pipe design, mine look like they are all swept towards the right side of the bike. This bike has been the easiest to do a oil change of any bike ive owned. All you really need is a 17mm ratchet, no need to remove fairings, none of that...life is good.
Yes I don't know why their design runs the pipes close to the filter like that but oil changes are still easy .
Just no clearance for a bigger filter and just barely enough clearance for the stock filter. The stock header allows for a ton of room for the oil filter. Muzzy has a ton of clearance and so does Brocks.
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posted March 31, 2010 08:45 PM
From my observations in popularity order:
Busa guys like Brock's, Yoshi, Tiforce, Tsukigi.
ZX14 guys like Brock's and Muzzy.
GSXR owners like, Yoshi, 2Bros, Akrapovic
Just be happy you don't have a 2bros exhaust on your ZX, i have yet to see a bike where the 2bros doesn't look like shit. lol
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posted March 31, 2010 08:50 PM
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From my observations in popularity order:
Busa guys like Brock's, Yoshi, Tiforce, Tsukigi.
ZX14 guys like Brock's and Muzzy.
GSXR owners like, Yoshi, 2Bros, Akrapovic
Just be happy you don't have a 2bros exhaust on your ZX, i have yet to see a bike where the 2bros doesn't look like shit. lol
Perfect breakdown! 
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posted March 31, 2010 09:15 PM
Here are shots of mine i just took, the filter is actually 3/4" longer then the stock ZX14 filter but i still have room for a filter to be 2-3" longer if i wanted lol:
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posted March 31, 2010 09:22 PM
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Here are shots of mine i just took, the filter is actually 3/4" longer then the stock ZX14 filter but i still have room for a filter to be 2-3" longer if i wanted lol:
Plenty of room! The #4 pipe on the yosh cuts in a lot closer to the filter.
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posted March 31, 2010 09:37 PM
Actually since there is so much room in there i was thinking of making that area a luggage compartment whadda ya think? lol
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posted March 31, 2010 09:40 PM
Sweet! Or you could hide a Nos bottle in there 
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posted March 31, 2010 09:40 PM
What is the part number on the shorter k&n filter? I need a shorter filter with my sidewinder.
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posted March 31, 2010 11:06 PM
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What is the part number on the shorter k&n filter? I need a shorter filter with my sidewinder.
shorter K&N oil filter, the KN-204
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posted April 01, 2010 06:07 AM
Definetly less clearance than the Muzzy, still very easy to change oil! Long filter, probably not.
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posted April 01, 2010 06:32 AM
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INTIMIDA2OR why so negative on Yosh pipes??? did someone hit u in the balls with a Yosh Pipe or do you get passed by alot of bikes with Yosh pipes? Explain how you know the filter runs close on Yosh pipes, was it when you awstruck by examining one up close and were envious............... LOL
Sorry but everybody and his mama and his daddys booza has a yosh on it ... Too much of the same thing bugs me. And I've seen a few in my shop for an oil change with the oil filter too close to the exhaust. The short filter would help!
Well if you want to see a pipe that everybody has take a look around man. Brocks is on every bike in this GD forum! For that reason I want to sell my pipe! Yes it makes power and yes Brocks is great, bla, bla, bla but I have almost fallen off of the Brocks bandwagon. 
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posted April 01, 2010 06:40 AM
It's a drag racing forum that's why you see mostly Brocks. The other zx14 forum I go to you'll see alot of different exhausts. I'm one of the very few Brocks pipes. I'd bet 90% of the zx14's in existence run only slip ons or stay stock.
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posted April 01, 2010 07:21 AM
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It's a drag racing forum that's why you see mostly Brocks. The other zx14 forum I go to you'll see alot of different exhausts. I'm one of the very few Brocks pipes. I'd bet 90% of the zx14's in existence run only slip ons or stay stock.
So you also believe that Brocks pipes are the minority on 14's and Busas? Maybe I am the one that is blind to all the other pipes for the 14 and the Busa but......I just find it funny that someone would say that they are sick of everybody having Yosh pipes thats why he went with something different. (BROCKS).....LMFAO!!!!!!! Now, different would be Area P or Tsukigi for the 14.
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posted April 01, 2010 07:22 AM
I'm very happy with the Yosh's performance. As far as seeing alot of them.....no, not on ZX-14's anyway. The only way I would change it is for a full system with Ti header and CF Can which would be slightly lighter.
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posted April 01, 2010 07:24 AM
I'm going tiforce hi mount if that counts for different. I only know of like 2 people on this board that has that and one of them is just a dual slip on.
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posted April 01, 2010 07:25 AM
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I'm very happy with the Yosh's performance. As far as seeing alot of them.....no, not on ZX-14's anyway. The only way I would change it is for a full system with Ti header and CF Can which would be slightly lighter.
I agree EPD although I am not a fan of Yosh, I have never, ever seen a Yosh pipe on a 14 and if you like the pipe, good for you!
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