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posted March 30, 2010 09:34 PM
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So this is whats inside our oil filters eh?
I was looking around zx10 forum and found these pictures, is our filter made of some sort of doggie biscuit or what? Right now i am using up the rest of my Japanese market Honda Hamp oil filters but im not sure about the Kawi filter judging from whats inside these lol.
This is what i current am using and its Kawi green lol:
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posted March 31, 2010 03:03 AM
The zx14/12 oil filters are very similar in design to the TRD oil filters by toyota !!!
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posted March 31, 2010 03:55 AM
What would you suggest be inside an oil filter?
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posted March 31, 2010 04:09 AM
Here we go again,thanks Tim. Ha ha this will be an intresting thread.
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posted March 31, 2010 05:03 AM
I recently went thru my ZX12R engine with 30,000 hard miles on it to build it for more power. Everything looked GREAT inside the motor and I've been using the OEM doggie biscuits since day one........I like 'em.
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posted March 31, 2010 05:35 AM
I hear ya Dan...OEM only for me !!!
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posted March 31, 2010 06:03 AM
Kawi's OEM lube filters have a check valve in them correct? Think I read somewhere that they keep oil from leaving the engine?
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posted March 31, 2010 06:36 AM
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What would you suggest be inside an oil filter?
well typically I am used to seeing folded paper pleats like every other oil filter not a condensed tampon
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posted March 31, 2010 07:34 AM
slvr_blt
There is a reason why the majority of oil filters out there are just folded cheap paper with cheap construction with a cheap price!!!
THEN, there's a reason why Toyota-TRD oil filters are $30 per filter & made the same as a zx14/12/10 OEM oil filter !!!!!
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posted March 31, 2010 07:40 AM
Ladies, ladies... You'all gonna squat down on them and have a circle jerk or break one off and feed fido is sit! Like sit down and call it either a doggy biscuit or a sanitary napkin.
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posted March 31, 2010 08:01 AM
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There is a reason why the majority of oil filters out there are just folded cheap paper with cheap construction with a cheap price!!!
THEN, there's a reason why Toyota-TRD oil filters are $30 per filter & made the same as a zx14/12/10 OEM oil filter !!!!!
Its traditional for Toyota as Denso is owned by Toyota so i wouldn't doubt that these types of filters be used since its their own brand or their subsidiary TRD Performance branch. I wonder if there is any empirical data on it like filtration specs. Its just that this is the first time i see this type of filter as im sure all other brands use the ol' pleated paper setup. When i did searches on this type of designed it was all tied to Denso made ones and just about everyone complained its a shitty design. Apparently Suzuki and Yamaha bike filters employed this design at one point also, Suzuki discoed those and started using Toyo Roki ones instead. I still have some left over old Kawi filters 16097-0002 its a little tiny bit shorter but it looks like these might fit too, these are Toyo Roki ones. While i do agree Kawi filters cost more then all other brands ive purchased in the past, it does have a proprietary design Ive never seen before. On avg i have paid $1-2 more for Kawi filters vs Suzuki and Honda ones.
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posted March 31, 2010 09:24 AM
that type of filter goes back at least 80 years. if you have a fuel oil furnace chances are that is what the filter looks like
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posted March 31, 2010 09:30 AM
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Uh yeah, so in laymans terms which is better (we should have a comparison). Do I need a 30 dollar filter or can I count on a 10 dollar filter?
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posted March 31, 2010 10:11 AM
Any oil filter experts in here that would like to crack open some sample filters to assess its filtering, flow and designs? I have seen a few get cracked open but it doesn't cover all the filters Ive seen nor does it have any specific findings other then some guys opinion on it. If someone here is a expert on oil filters ill be more then happy to donate a couple of different filters for assessment.
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posted March 31, 2010 11:36 AM
derpie.....The oem kawasaki filters are around $13...its up to you if you want to spend $8 instead...
TRD, sure smacks those TRD consumers around for the same filter...lol
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posted March 31, 2010 12:11 PM
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derpie.....The oem kawasaki filters are around $13...its up to you if you want to spend $8 instead...
TRD, sure smacks those TRD consumers around for the same filter...lol
lol, my local dealer Berts Megamall has some crazy matrix pricing, they asked $17.99 each. I ended up buying 4 for $8.25ea online.
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posted March 31, 2010 12:17 PM
hMM, no the Toyota TRD filters are definitely different, there is the USA TRD one on the left and the JDM version on the right:
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posted March 31, 2010 05:13 PM
Stupid question, how do you take the filter apart?
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posted March 31, 2010 05:23 PM
can opener maybe?? by the way the TRD usa. filter on the left is manufactured by Wix Filters. here in S.C.
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posted March 31, 2010 05:24 PM
You mainly have to crudely cut it with a die grinder or use a pipe cutter to open it. It's crimped together so there is no easy way to open it.
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posted March 31, 2010 05:38 PM
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derpie.....The oem kawasaki filters are around $13...its up to you if you want to spend $8 instead...
TRD, sure smacks those TRD consumers around for the same filter...lol
I appreciate your response on that, I'm not trying to sound thrifty here I just want a good filter be it a k&n or an oem you know ?
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posted March 31, 2010 06:24 PM
I guess those TRD filters changed since I use to use them...
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posted March 31, 2010 06:40 PM
I currently have a stock, Napa gold, Fram, and Walmart oil filter cut apart and sitting on my bench. I'm waiting till it's time to cut open the Mobile 1 filter that is currently on the bike before I make a decision. So far the Napa is my favorite. Not impressed with the Fram and Walmart.
That is just my opinion
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posted March 31, 2010 07:45 PM
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I guess those TRD filters changed since I use to use them...
lol yea cause people found out they are paying $30 for a stock yoda filter lol.
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posted March 31, 2010 08:14 PM
Ozonkiller got any pics of the Napa Gold cut open?
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