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posted March 26, 2010 09:15 PM
 Edited By: Sticks_n_Stones on 27 Mar 2010 05:16
Any Miami 14's up for a C6 Z06 respect lesson?
This thread started it:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/street-racing-kill-stories/1258090-zo-vamp-vs-honda-1000rr-vs-haaybusa-1300-a.html
Then this guy obZidian from Miami comes in with quotes like this (he has a bone stock C6 Z06 corvette):
"I can see this happening but it's gotta be 150hp+ or close to a 200shot. Also, looks as if he started in 3rd gear. 3rd ends at 125mph and 4th @ 165mph so all it takes is just one, easy 3-4 shift to hit 160mph+
I've raced 1000's, busa's and a Zx-14 before. They get an immediate jump and pull about 3-4 cars and stay there. With a 150-200shot in a c6 Z06, I can see where it can beat these bikes."
"Anyways, and this is from my experience. A 600cc (versus Stock C6 Z06) gets pulled by 3-4 cars with me behind the wheel. A 750cc will get a 2-3 bike length jump anywhere under 65mph however, by 110-120mph, I'm reeling the 750cc back. A ZX-14, CBR1000rr, GSXR1000 etc... will get that 3-4 bike lead on me and stay there. A 150shot in a C6 Z06 is about a 6-8 car difference, depending on bottle pressure, fuel mixture, timing, etc. So, a 200shot can beat a liter bike, IMO, no problem with the right driver."
Getting really tired of squelching all the idiots talking up liter and hyper bike kills on my car websites: wondering if one of you Floridians wanted to help out?  You know, if you're bored and got nothin better to do.
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posted March 26, 2010 09:19 PM
Edited By: Sticks_n_Stones on 27 Mar 2010 05:20
And get it on video? lol I already destroyed one C6 Z06 already that was under the impression that 14's were slower than Busa's, which in turn where slower than liter bikes... My big 320+lb ass walked him like he was a Chihauha on a leash with the owner running to the bathroom with a case of the squirts. 
Unfortunately, that was a site that I sorta got banned from when I thought the Kill Section was like our Smack House. lol
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posted March 26, 2010 09:47 PM
Edited By: FastestBusaAround on 27 Mar 2010 05:52
I own and drive a bone stock Viper Roadster ('08 Gen IV - 600 HP) and a Z06 ('08). No way that even a 200 HP shot would touch my ZX14 at any speed...period. By my power to weight calcs, you'd need at least 800+ HP on the Z06 to get to ZX14 times at any speed, except maybe over 170 or so. I blow these cars away all day long on the road with the ZX. A stock Viper or Z06 runs very high 10's at best, if you can hook up...and most run 11's anyway. At 150, I could pull both cars without much down-shifting on the ZX, and both cars would be pinned at the lowest gears to try and catch it.
They're slow when compared to a ZX...fuck, even my Connie can take these cars till 160, and these cars are fucking quick, but you can't even compare them to a stock ZX14. A 1000 could eat them as well.
That guy you're referring to is on the Corvette forums. I've seen his posts there before.
See this one where he's in the 12's
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z06-discussion/2543171-stock-c6z-w-drs-11-09-126-73mph.html
Fucking moron - beat a ZX14 with a slightly modded Z06?... sure 
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posted March 26, 2010 10:08 PM
someone might want to show the guy this test lol.
http://www.superstreetbike.com/features/0911_sbkp_car_vs_kawasaki_zx_14/index.html
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posted March 27, 2010 05:56 AM
Nice magazine article- got it bookmarked! Still waiting on Smokin or someone to offer up his extermination services though. I'll pony up $50 to anyone who gets this guy to race him!
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posted March 27, 2010 06:12 AM
I use to get into internet pissing matches with strangers like that as well....it's not worth the time, especially when they're not local.
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posted March 27, 2010 06:15 AM
I don't street race .....Bring it to the track..
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posted March 27, 2010 06:28 AM
It never ceases to amaze me when car owners think they can take bikes...LOL. They have NO CLUE. Most of them end up spinning tires and blowing trannies.
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posted March 27, 2010 07:16 AM
Edited By: Sticks_n_Stones on 27 Mar 2010 15:17
in the street car group I'm in, I heard crap about beating bikes from the 11-12 second group when i first arrived. (I was able to squelch that crap pretty fast) But the 10 second guys were a bit more leary of mentioning bike kills; the 9 second guys were more upfront- admitting they could beat most bikes from a roll, but a dig race on the streets against a well ridden stock literbike or busa would end in there loss. just to hard to hook a car on the streets, while a bike that can run 9's at stock length at the track can run 9's on nearly any clean surface on the street, too!
Like usual, the faster the guys are = the more they know what it takes = the less smack they talk. With the exception of me, since I talk smack AND know everything.
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posted March 27, 2010 07:32 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me when car owners think they can take bikes...LOL. They have NO CLUE. Most of them end up spinning tires and blowing trannies.
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posted March 27, 2010 07:50 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me when car owners think they can take bikes...LOL. They have NO CLUE. Most of them end up spinning tires and blowing trannies.
Agree
Me too........was roll-on running an older big block Stingray down I-675 last year. He came up on my 6 hard and fast, so I clutched it down a couple gears when he pulled up beside me -- let go and lost him........slowed down, and here he came again.......so I rinsed and repeated -- same scenario of me blowing away. He had a sweet blonde with him and assuming he was trying to impress her or something........but I brought the bad news to that car.
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posted March 27, 2010 08:39 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me when car owners think they can take bikes...LOL. They have NO CLUE. Most of them end up spinning tires and blowing trannies.
Noticed you have a Viper and a Vette. My Vette has the ZF 6 speed. Was told the Viper did to. I read that article Bawls posted and Viper hurt the tranny....ZF?
www.zfdoc.com this guy is good with Corvette's and ZF trans.
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posted March 27, 2010 10:08 AM
I have raced a stock c6 z06 and was impressed. I only dropped to 3rd at 55ish (so I was way out of gear), and he took the jump. I didn't pass him till the top of 3rd. They are very fast cars, but no way comparable to the zx14.
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posted March 27, 2010 10:26 AM
I took out a z06 not long ago with my Roadrunner ..... easy kill ...
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posted March 27, 2010 11:07 AM
I was in Miami Thursday and Fri., didn't see any Z06/ZX14 races :P
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posted March 27, 2010 12:28 PM
Hey steve, you should have heard him talk shit about how any corvette can kill those slow R1's.
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posted March 27, 2010 12:58 PM
Edited By: SteveWFL on 27 Mar 2010 20:59
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Hey steve, you should have heard him talk shit about how any corvette can kill those slow R1's.
aww hell maybe they can, I've never had one pull me from a light though. and like Miami, Z06's are a dime a dozen in Tampa too
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posted March 27, 2010 01:51 PM
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posted March 27, 2010 03:55 PM
wow...Bike vs. Car...Hmm...You think about that reall long and hard and tell me what you think...lol
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posted March 27, 2010 05:25 PM
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wow...Bike vs. Car...Hmm...You think about that reall long and hard and tell me what you think...lol
No shit huh lol!
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posted March 28, 2010 04:11 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me when car owners think they can take bikes...LOL. They have NO CLUE. Most of them end up spinning tires and blowing trannies.
Noticed you have a Viper and a Vette. My Vette has the ZF 6 speed. Was told the Viper did to. I read that article Bawls posted and Viper hurt the tranny....ZF?
www.zfdoc.com this guy is good with Corvette's and ZF trans.
Louis
They HAD the (T56) same tranny until the Z went to the 6060 in 08...which has its own set of issues as well....one of which I have already had the pleasure of experiencing.
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posted March 28, 2010 05:34 AM
couple guys I know have been taking out tailshafts: that the issue you two are referring too?
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posted March 28, 2010 08:51 AM
I too have an 08 Viper and have to agree with Steve there is no way it can keep up with the bike, maybe if you could get the tires to hook it up some how and keep the tires from spinning which let go pretty much everywhere. One car that did surprise me one time was a AMG mercedes, I pulled up beside him minding my own business when he looks over and hammers it, that thing took off!! I caught up to him and passed but damn it was pretty fast but with his head start that damn thing motored.
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posted March 28, 2010 08:53 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Mar 2010 16:53
There are plenty of very high hp cars that can beat bikes from a roll.
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posted March 28, 2010 09:10 AM
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There are plenty of very high hp cars that can beat bikes from a roll.
oh ya there is there is gonna be a video of a TT viper running down a turbo 14 here in a couple of weeks
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