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posted April 06, 2010 12:23 PM
SEARCH can be a great help to you...just a tip. Having some less sensitive skin is also helpful around here...
BTW...what oil do you recommend? 
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TampaGunSlinger
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posted April 06, 2010 03:00 PM
the secondary flies we put in the throttle tubes above the 1st set of flies to ether slow down our take offs or to some how regulate how much power you can have before 5.5k rpms - on the 06/07 zx14, as soon as you pull them you notice a huge difference, before i would give it gas and as soon as those flies opened my front wheel would pick up and it was hard to judge when they would open and let the bike move... i didn't like it at all..
once you pull them out and re-map it the bike will move with no hesitation, is will be so much smoother.
on the 08 and up modle the flies open earlier ( i think 3.5k rpms) so its not huge when you pull them but i have yet to here one person with an 08 or newer who took them out wish they left them in...
you too like all of us will be like you guys were right i should have taken them out the 1st day i got the bike, and why are they even in there....
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oilfieldtrash
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posted April 06, 2010 03:35 PM
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Thanks for the helpful info guys. Simple question but i guess Its too much for the Experts to explain to a newb (to the 14 anyway). Nice forum you got here.
Not sure about data. I guarantee if you ride the bike 20 mins then come back take out the flies and remap and then take it back out 20 mins you'll come back with your hair standing straight up!!! I was screaming in my freaking helmet fuck yeah!!
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SLVR_BLT
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posted April 06, 2010 04:30 PM
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We have beat this thread to death and it just keeps on coming back like a fat chick at a party....... Seriously though does anybody here with more than 50 post still have them in,if so own it guys.
You mean like a fat chick at a buffet. And i have more then 50 posts and my flies are still in lol.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted April 06, 2010 09:53 PM
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We have beat this thread to death and it just keeps on coming back like a fat chick at a party....... Seriously though does anybody here with more than 50 post still have them in,if so own it guys.
You mean like a fat chick at a buffet. And i have more then 50 posts and my flies are still in lol.
You'll Shat yourself if you ever take those flies out 
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posted April 06, 2010 09:58 PM
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We have beat this thread to death and it just keeps on coming back like a fat chick at a party....... Seriously though does anybody here with more than 50 post still have them in,if so own it guys.
You mean like a fat chick at a buffet. And i have more then 50 posts and my flies are still in lol.
You'll Shat yourself if you ever take those flies out
Actually now that I see you have an '06 with the flies still in , you'll Shat, cream , and piss yourself if you ever take those flies out 
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zx14fan
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posted April 06, 2010 10:36 PM
Over and over again.06 or 07 take em out any newer dont waste your time unless you just drag rac.
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posted April 06, 2010 10:42 PM
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Over and over again.06 or 07 take em out any newer dont waste your time unless you just drag rac.
Yes over and over again till every last fly has been unscrewed
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j-bird09
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posted April 07, 2010 03:08 AM
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Over and over again.06 or 07 take em out any newer dont waste your time unless you just drag rac.
Yes over and over again till every last fly has been unscrewed
i thought the same way but TAKE THEM OUT made an definate difference on my bike lot better throttle response and smoother its a half hour job you dont have to use a torch or a special screw driver either ride the bike and get it good and warm or let it stand at idle untill the fan kicks in and shuts off i used a craftsman screwdriver came out just fine the bike get hot enough for the locktight to soften up just put pretty good down pressure when twisting off very easy
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Earthbound Missile
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posted April 07, 2010 08:53 AM
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Over and over again.06 or 07 take em out any newer dont waste your time unless you just drag rac.
My "08" has more "snap" down low in the rev range with the flies out and gets better gas milage as a bonus
besides my wife got a new windchime out of the deal
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speedgene
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posted April 07, 2010 09:03 AM
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... besides my wife got a new windchime out of the deal
Best one yet. ^^^
Mr. Novice man, think of waking ankle deep in mud. Think of that as the flies are doing that. It still has the same power in your legs. Now, walk on solid land. Kind of easy and you can run as fast as you want? See that going on? Now, all that happened was a faster event happening. You dragging your toe jam in the mud is friction or a slow door opening before you open the other door on your own. You have to wait for the event, rather, be in control of the event from the first step you make; is flat the fuck on your head is the new performance hidden in the mud pack, you listen to these fudge packers.
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posted April 07, 2010 09:28 AM
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Over and over again.06 or 07 take em out any newer dont waste your time unless you just drag rac.
My "08" has more "snap" down low in the rev range with the flies out and gets better gas milage as a bonus
besides my wife got a new windchime out of the deal
So that's what flies are good for when pulled?
I should do something like that with my fly collection from like the 10 14's I've pulled 'em from lol
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posted April 07, 2010 09:32 AM
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Over and over again.06 or 07 take em out any newer dont waste your time unless you just drag rac.
Yes over and over again till every last fly has been unscrewed
i thought the same way but TAKE THEM OUT made an definate difference on my bike lot better throttle response and smoother its a half hour job you dont have to use a torch or a special screw driver either ride the bike and get it good and warm or let it stand at idle untill the fan kicks in and shuts off i used a craftsman screwdriver came out just fine the bike get hot enough for the locktight to soften up just put pretty good down pressure when twisting off very easy
Cool! And you have an 09 and you noticed an improvement. Sweet!
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posted April 07, 2010 09:36 AM
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... besides my wife got a new windchime out of the deal
Best one yet. ^^^
Mr. Novice man, think of waking ankle deep in mud. Think of that as the flies are doing that. It still has the same power in your legs. Now, walk on solid land. Kind of easy and you can run as fast as you want? See that going on? Now, all that happened was a faster event happening. You dragging your toe jam in the mud is friction or a slow door opening before you open the other door on your own. You have to wait for the event, rather, be in control of the event from the first step you make; is flat the fuck on your head is the new performance hidden in the mud pack, you listen to these fudge packers.
No mud ducks overe here , these ducks fly!
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epd345
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posted April 07, 2010 09:51 AM
If you have an 06-07 ZX-14 I have an Ivan's TRE-008 which will make them open faster and its just plug and play. Its for sale, check the classifieds here.........
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SLVR_BLT
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posted April 07, 2010 10:03 AM
Considering the secondaries are servo controlled, does that mean if the servo dies one day you could end up with a ZX that cant get past 30mph even at WOT? lol
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posted April 07, 2010 10:09 AM
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Considering the secondaries are servo controlled, does that mean if the servo dies one day you could end up with a ZX that cant get past 30mph even at WOT? lol
In a word ... Yes!
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posted April 07, 2010 10:11 AM
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If you have an 06-07 ZX-14 I have an Ivan's TRE-008 which will make them open faster and its just plug and play. Its for sale, check the classifieds here.........
Ivan lol! That's how Evan started ya know 
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posted April 07, 2010 11:01 AM
question for 2Heavy
2Heavy did you look at Brocksperformance.com? That's where Brock compiled month worth of data on this subject in the zx14 diaries. We are not claiming to be experts or guru's here,but we are smart enough to take all of Brocks hard work and apply it to this bike because the man is very smart and helpfull to us.
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2heavy
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posted April 07, 2010 02:38 PM
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2Heavy did you look at Brocksperformance.com? That's where Brock compiled month worth of data on this subject in the zx14 diaries. We are not claiming to be experts or guru's here,but we are smart enough to take all of Brocks hard work and apply it to this bike because the man is very smart and helpfull to us.
Just now went to Brocks site and tracked it down. Thanks for the info, I appreciate constructive feedback and not the usual BS you get on many forums these days. I have heard about Brocks but didn't look there because I was thinking it was Race oriented. In the absence of dyno #s before and after I will trust Brocks opinion. I think I will go for it . Now I just need to find a damn Japanese screwdriver. Hey, thanks again for the Brocks reference that site is great.
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posted April 08, 2010 01:36 AM
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SEARCH can be a great help to you...just a tip. Having some less sensitive skin is also helpful around here...
BTW...what oil do you recommend?
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68gts2
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posted April 08, 2010 05:34 AM
Intimada2or is right about some needing thicker skin here.
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posted April 08, 2010 05:37 AM
No real need for a JIS screwdriver.....
A good #2 phillips and heat the screws with a soldering iron and they come out very easy. Not sure why all the pain/aggrivation just to get a tool that you really don't need if you heat the screws properly.
Just more typical BS for you is all....
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posted April 08, 2010 01:42 PM
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Intimada2or is right about some needing thicker skin here.
Nothing but the truth!
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epd345
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posted April 08, 2010 01:55 PM
I did get the JIS screwdriver and heated the tip up and the screws came out like BUTTA though I probably didn't need it. Guess I was just worried about stripping one of those little buggers out
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