gottzx14
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posted March 19, 2010 04:02 PM
Gains with New Map
After reading Smokin's post on E85 I decided to try it for myself. My previous map was made with a Brocks ShortMeg and XXX race fuel. My bike dynoed at 182hp. Over the winter I swapped out the ShortMeg for a Brocks sidewinder and the head cleaned up at OSR in Logansport. I filled the tank with E85 and headed back to Del's Performance in Brownsburg. The first 2 pulls were 185 with the A/F ratio goin crazy. After putting the baffle in and adding some fuel the A/F straightened out and made 187. A couple more pulls and he easily got 190hp. Now time to get to the track for some seat time before racing starts.
I would like to the Shannon and Bob at OSR and Del Flores at Del's Performance for dynoing my bike after a late flight to Indy.
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posted March 19, 2010 04:09 PM
Did you get a valve job with the head clean up?.
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posted March 19, 2010 04:13 PM
Yep...sure did
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posted March 19, 2010 04:16 PM
You may see some more hp if you switch back to an oxygenated race fuel, as opposed to the E85.
E85 is not typically known for making more power than good oxygenated race fuels.
The head clean up (any milling?), valve job, and sidewinder could amount to 10 hp peak on their own. 
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posted March 19, 2010 04:20 PM
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You may see some more hp if you switch back to an oxygenated race fuel, as opposed to the E85.
E85 is not typically known for making more power than good oxygenated race fuels.
The head clean up (any milling?), valve job, and sidewinder could amount to 10 hp peak on their own.
+1
I am hoping to be able to do a same day comparison on e85 soon. I don't know if it will happen or not, but I will try.
Sounds like good results though either way!
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gottzx14
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posted March 19, 2010 04:23 PM
For sure, I agree. That's what Del said also. With some Q16 I could easily make more. But.... For $2.20 a gallon. Can't beat it.
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posted March 19, 2010 04:24 PM
How much do you weigh, and what's your wheelbase?
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gottzx14
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posted March 19, 2010 04:33 PM
185 pounds in street clothes and I have Roaring Toyz exts. I have never measured the wheelbase, but I have it slid back about as far as it will go.
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posted March 19, 2010 05:05 PM
I would not use Q16 but i sure would try some MR12 .. Q16 is 116 octane and may kill some HP ..
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posted March 19, 2010 05:15 PM
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MR12 sounds good; I'm curious about how much compression it can handle.
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gottzx14
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posted March 19, 2010 05:23 PM
I don't know much on the differant fuels, for now the E85 will work fine til it's time for new rings. Then maybe some drop in pistons and valve springs.
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posted March 19, 2010 05:27 PM
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I don't know much on the differant fuels, for now the E85 will work fine til it's time for new rings. Then maybe some drop in pistons and valve springs.
I think the e85 is a great way to go and it's cheap too... I just wish i didn't have to drive 300 miles round trip to get it ..If we had e85 in town i would run it ..
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gottzx14
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posted March 19, 2010 05:44 PM
300 miles! Wow, guess I'm luckey to have it a couple miles down the road!!!
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posted March 19, 2010 06:21 PM
gottzx14, pm sent
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posted March 27, 2010 10:14 AM
any updates from the track?
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posted March 27, 2010 10:50 AM
Ive been using it for about a year or more I picked up only 3hp but the bike runs a lot safer due to the higher octane and the gas is cheaper than regular gas and its about 5-10 mins away from my house!
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posted March 27, 2010 10:53 AM
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Ive been using it for about a year or more I picked up only 3hp but the bike runs a lot safer due to the higher octane and the gas is cheaper than regular gas and its about 5-10 mins away from my house!
I imagine you could get even more hp with full timing control
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posted March 27, 2010 05:49 PM
Nevr seen it for sale in DFW area in Texas.
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posted March 27, 2010 06:42 PM
Had open test day at ORP in Indy today, went well. Ran a new pr in both 1/8 with a 5.71 and 1/4 with a 8.93. The 16/48 combo too much for me! I'm going back to 17/48 to crazy for me off the line.
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posted March 27, 2010 09:38 PM
Wow, pr first time out! nice
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gottzx14
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posted March 27, 2010 09:56 PM
Thanks, goin out Thrusday and test again before our first race.
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posted May 09, 2010 10:47 PM
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gottzx14
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posted May 10, 2010 02:24 AM
I scrapped the E85 idea, running the injectors at 98% duty cycle not good, started running out of fuel. Switched back to pump gas and went 8.83 @ 151 and 5.63 @ 125 in the 1/8
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posted May 10, 2010 02:56 AM
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I scrapped the E85 idea, running the injectors at 98% duty cycle not good, started running out of fuel. Switched back to pump gas and went 8.83 @ 151 and 5.63 @ 125 in the 1/8
the 440 cc injectors with stock pump pressure ... 190 hp may be pushing it . I was running 70 psi and could go 200 hp on my bike.
But now there are a few options for reasonably priced injectors. I found some 660 cc injectors for under 300 bucks, 550 cc injectors for around $270 . I ran the 660 cc injectors over the weekend and i only had to add 10 to the PC3 map over 10k.
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posted May 10, 2010 04:35 AM
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I don't know much on the differant fuels, for now the E85 will work fine til it's time for new rings. Then maybe some drop in pistons and valve springs.
I think the e85 is a great way to go and it's cheap too... I just wish i didn't have to drive 300 miles round trip to get it ..If we had e85 in town i would run it ..
Well I did find a place that is within 200 miles but the station is on the Express Way south of Orlando. PITA to get to.
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