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posted February 24, 2010 09:51 PM
HPC Ram Air Scoop ?
I know how we all feel about Greg @ HPC.
But what about this Ram Air Scoop that he claims makes 4 more h.p. ?
Does anyone here have it?
I was thinking about sealing my air box up from any leaks...
Maybe cut out the low beams,open up the ram air scoop and making a HUGH ram air mouth ... Since my bike will be down for awhile...its HOT ROD TIME!!!
I hardly ever drive at night,so loosing the low beams wouldn't effect me at all. This would get MUCH more air...
What do you think fellas?
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posted February 24, 2010 10:03 PM
4hp gain?, why is he the only one "selling" them?
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posted February 24, 2010 10:11 PM
Greg ....... 
Sorry I just can't stand his site..
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posted February 24, 2010 10:13 PM
LOL...I knew you would let me know whats up with Gregs invention Wheelie....wee
What do you think about my air intake idea Wheelie? 10 hp gain ,if Gregs gets 4...LOL
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posted February 24, 2010 10:15 PM
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LOL...I knew you would let me know whats up with Gregs invention Wheelie....wee
What do you think about my air intake idea Wheelie? 10 hp gain ,if Gregs gets 4...LOL
if it works let me know
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posted February 24, 2010 10:17 PM
Thats his store front...HPC= His Personel Crap...lol
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posted February 24, 2010 10:19 PM
just sayin, if the flap made 4hp wouldnt they be on every 14?
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posted February 24, 2010 10:20 PM
Wheelie....more air & more fuel = more power....WTF, I'll try it.
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posted February 24, 2010 10:20 PM
Busas got ram air scoops too . A good friend of mine has 'em on his.
No way to tell by dyno or just by riding if there is a powergain.
Unless you do a before and after test at a mile racetrack.
I think it's about coolness factor ...
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posted February 24, 2010 10:21 PM
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just sayin, if the flap made 4hp wouldnt they be on every 14?
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Its a Greg gimmick wee...lol
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posted February 24, 2010 10:22 PM
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Wheelie....more air & more fuel = more power....WTF, I'll try it.
get me one, ill try it too
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posted February 24, 2010 10:24 PM
I think it's about tricking uninformed retards into buying useless shit so that he can turn a profit.
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posted February 24, 2010 10:26 PM
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I think it's about tricking uninformed retards into buying useless shit so that he can turn a profit.
Ninjaboy has one
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posted February 24, 2010 10:28 PM
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Wheelie....more air & more fuel = more power....WTF, I'll try it.
get me one, ill try it too
wee
No wee, Im going to take out my low beams and make my own BIG Ram Air....after I stroke it
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posted February 24, 2010 10:29 PM
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I think it's about tricking uninformed retards into buying useless shit so that he can turn a profit.
Gregs good at that...Tricky Prick
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posted February 24, 2010 11:45 PM
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I think it's about tricking uninformed retards into buying useless shit so that he can turn a profit.
You think!? Lol! 
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posted February 25, 2010 01:21 AM
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Maybe 4hp gain but at 140 and above, which HPC mention, how much more drag is created? It probably cancels out.
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posted February 25, 2010 04:11 AM
Edited By: Y2KZX12R on 25 Feb 2010 12:28
The way ram pressure recovery works is the opposite of what you would think. Adding inlet area with out revising the duct .... not likely to work well.
You do not want a duct after the opening that's cross sectional area is reducing. In other words a "funnel" to catch "more" air doesn't work.
You first size the frontal area to the demand of the air requirement and then size the duct work accordingly. The air need to slow down once it enters the inlet. The rate that you slow the air down has a large effect on the pressure recovery. To slow the air down you need to have the duct to be getting larger as it gets to the airbox.
Its more like a reverse funnel where the inlet is the small end of the funnel and the volume is set by the size of the small end of the funnel heading into the wind.
I just looked at this item from HPC and it doesnt appear to be increasing the inlet area rather it looks like its trying to increase the pressure in front of the duct.... ???
I dont know what actual effect this would have.... But I do know someone who would.... I'll ask.
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posted February 25, 2010 06:49 AM
No way i'd use anything Greg made .. Greg sure has the Busa guys sucking his bung hole over at hayabusa. org ..He is a Busa God over there ..
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posted February 25, 2010 07:05 AM
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The way ram pressure recovery works is the opposite of what you would think. Adding inlet area with out revising the duct .... not likely to work well.
You do not want a duct after the opening that's cross sectional area is reducing. In other words a "funnel" to catch "more" air doesn't work.
You first size the frontal area to the demand of the air requirement and then size the duct work accordingly. The air need to slow down once it enters the inlet. The rate that you slow the air down has a large effect on the pressure recovery. To slow the air down you need to have the duct to be getting larger as it gets to the airbox.
Its more like a reverse funnel where the inlet is the small end of the funnel and the volume is set by the size of the small end of the funnel heading into the wind.
I just looked at this item from HPC and it doesnt appear to be increasing the inlet area rather it looks like its trying to increase the pressure in front of the duct.... ???
I dont know what actual effect this would have.... But I do know someone who would.... I'll ask.
Thank for the tech on Ram Air...Thats what I wanted to know. Let me know what your friend says about this idea.
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posted February 25, 2010 09:47 PM
Now one here likes Greg...lmfao He sounds like a SCHMUCK
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posted February 25, 2010 10:45 PM
just don't call him out when he's lying to someone or he'll ban you lol.
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posted February 26, 2010 03:02 AM
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just don't call him out when he's lying to someone or he'll ban you lol.
+1. I'm banned as of a few years ago. I have no desire to go back. There's not one thing the guys don't know here! I think I'll stay...
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posted February 26, 2010 11:36 AM
Gregs site  Bikeland 
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posted February 26, 2010 02:53 PM
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Gregs site Bikeland
Stop it Lee . . . 
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