gsxrassassin
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posted December 17, 2009 11:08 AM
In the spirit of the State of Missouri, they're going to have to "show me" that this bike makes 180+ horses at the rear wheel. I remember all the noise about BMW's hyper-bike (K1200) making 163 horsepower. As it turns out that was crank power, no rear wheel. I think we'll see the same with this bike.
All the early stories I read pointed to 193 horsepower for the Bimmer-Liter. That must be a crank figure. From the engine to the rear wheel there's about a 12% loss through drivetrain inefficiency. So even at 193 crank horse you're talking just under 170 rwhp. That seems much more reasonable to me. Powerful? Yes. 180+ rwhp? No.
We'll see.
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Bluebyyou
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posted December 17, 2009 01:40 PM
It's weird mismatched features remind me a little too much of this:
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SteveWFL
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posted December 17, 2009 02:19 PM
the Aprilia V4 already has all the Jap litre leaners humbled by far....and thats common knowledge
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instag8tr
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posted December 17, 2009 02:36 PM
what is the reasoning behind the different fairings and headlights?
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SteveWFL
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posted December 17, 2009 02:41 PM
dunno, but who cares about the looks of these bikes? The new R1 and ZX10 is mega-fugly.
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1badzx12r
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posted December 17, 2009 02:43 PM
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the Aprilia V4 already has all the Jap litre leaners humbled by far....and thats common knowledge
and that be only because the europeeN's were crying fowl with jap bikes running 186+ mph 10 years ago ..
And then the europeen's break their own rules set forth by them ..
if i was the jap's i'd kick some azz next bike boom
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Shane661
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posted December 17, 2009 02:44 PM
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dunno, but who cares about the looks of these bikes? The new R1 and ZX10 is mega-fugly.
I think the 10 looks pretty good once you ditch the oem signals/mirrors/exhaust...
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SteveWFL
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posted December 17, 2009 03:27 PM
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dunno, but who cares about the looks of these bikes? The new R1 and ZX10 is mega-fugly.
I think the 10 looks pretty good once you ditch the oem signals/mirrors/exhaust...
c'mon man they all look good after "changes" 
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted December 17, 2009 03:31 PM
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what is the reasoning behind the different fairings and headlights?
A new type of gay is all I can think of.
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SteveWFL
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posted December 17, 2009 03:42 PM
the puke green color is fugly too. I likie the other colors better, especially the one with white in it.
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Bawls
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posted December 17, 2009 06:39 PM
did they steal their design cues from hyosung? that's one ugly bitch. I wanna ride it though
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posted December 17, 2009 06:51 PM
blah....most of the people that would buy them for the money they go for wouldn't ever really have it WOT much if at all. Most owners will be older men that get them for bragging rights but can't ride worth shit. I see it all the time. I'm 32, so I mean...men in their upper 40's-60's. They talk a big game, but are slow as fuck. I've met a few in those ages that can ride like hell...but I've met more that can't and just buy sportbikes for the look at me factor. 
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posted December 17, 2009 07:08 PM
i guess smokin, wheelie, and TNT don't fall into that category since they're all 65 and older 
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SteveWFL
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posted December 17, 2009 07:36 PM
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blah....most of the people that would buy them for the money they go for wouldn't ever really have it WOT much if at all. Most owners will be older men that get them for bragging rights but can't ride worth shit. I see it all the time. I'm 32, so I mean...men in their upper 40's-60's. They talk a big game, but are slow as fuck. I've met a few in those ages that can ride like hell...but I've met more that can't and just buy sportbikes for the look at me factor.
Yeah, that Mladen and them are slow as fvck 
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Bently
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posted December 17, 2009 07:41 PM
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blah....most of the people that would buy them for the money they go for wouldn't ever really have it WOT much if at all. Most owners will be older men that get them for bragging rights but can't ride worth shit. I see it all the time. I'm 32, so I mean...men in their upper 40's-60's. They talk a big game, but are slow as fuck. I've met a few in those ages that can ride like hell...but I've met more that can't and just buy sportbikes for the look at me factor.
I thought the base Bmw was real close to the rest of the 1000 cc bikes for price untill you start adding traction control, quick shifter etc. but then add those things to the reat of the litre bikes and your talking about the same money.
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posted December 17, 2009 07:42 PM
jap bikes went way up on price
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Bawls
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posted December 17, 2009 09:08 PM
yep... all the way up to 11-12k dollars. that leaves you with 6-8k to play with.......
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posted December 17, 2009 09:14 PM
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i guess smokin, wheelie, and TNT don't fall into that category since they're all 65 and older
what did you just say?
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SteveWFL
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posted December 17, 2009 09:38 PM
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i guess smokin, wheelie, and TNT don't fall into that category since they're all 65 and older
what did you just say?
wee
yeah I don't think smokin' belongs in that category either
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posted December 17, 2009 11:34 PM
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted December 17, 2009 11:45 PM
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posted December 18, 2009 03:36 AM
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i guess smokin, wheelie, and TNT don't fall into that category since they're all 65 and older
what did you just say?
wee
Lol! 
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posted December 18, 2009 03:56 AM
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yep... all the way up to 11-12k dollars. that leaves you with 6-8k to play with.......
Most jap bikes are into the 12's now. I think the new GSXR 1000 will be close to 13,000 which is what the bmw is. so no 6 to 8 to play with. I think that's what you meant right Bawls. the new BMW is not 18,000 to 20,000. I think it's 16,000 fully loaded up But the front of the BMW is Ugly!
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posted December 18, 2009 07:26 AM
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i guess smokin, wheelie, and TNT don't fall into that category since they're all 65 and older
what did you just say?
wee
Bahahaha.................... 
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posted December 18, 2009 07:31 AM
Went to the Akrapovic site and it looks like that hp peak occurs at a lot higher rpm than the MCN chart indicates. That line should be moved farther to the right......the overlay is not right. That changes things a little.............
http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/ext/user_products/mod1/uploads/products/racing_evolution_exhaust_system_for_the_bmw_s1000rr_2010_/bmw_s1000rr_2010_complete_rac_evo_.jpg
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